Four way Hay maker deal nearing completion! You heard it here first!

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The Hay-maker

By Stephen Reilly
and Michael Gleeson
October 5, 2005

. . . and Hawthorn gets two first-round draft picks plus one second-round pick.

THE first blockbuster deal of the trade period was nearing completion last night, a complicated four-club exchange involving Jonathan Hay, Daniel Motlop, Byron Pickett, Steven Armstrong and a host of draft picks.

A deal created out of the impasse surrounding Hay and Motlop, the arrangement is expected to mean the Hawthorn full-back crosses to the Kangaroos, Motlop gets his way and makes Port Adelaide his new home, Byron Pickett starts over with Melbourne and Armstrong leaves the Demons to join Motlop at Alberton. Hawthorn will receive the two first-round draft picks it has demanded for Hay and another in the second round.

The new deal became the most viable option late last night when Melbourne introduced itself into negotiations with its interest in Pickett. To that point, Fremantle had been unable to put a satisfactory offer to Hawthorn for Hay and a Brisbane Lions delegation to Darwin had failed to convince Motlop that his future lay at the Gabba.

The Dockers unsuccessfully offered draft selection 10 for Hay yesterday afternoon and refused to sweeten the offer with Ryan Murphy, the 20-year-old Victorian the Hawks wanted included in the deal. A day earlier, Hawthorn had rejected a similar offer from the Kangaroos of pick 13.

Hours after Fremantle's bid was turned down, Brisbane coach Leigh Matthews, assistant coach Craig Lambert and star player Chris Johnson flew to Darwin to meet Motlop, who had been considered singularly crucial to the Kangaroos' plans of acquiring Hay.

The trio, joined by former Brisbane player and Top End icon Michael McLean, met Motlop on a Darwin beach for more than an hour, but were unable to persuade him. The Kangaroos had been hoping to trade Motlop to Brisbane for the Lions' first-round selection, pick nine, which they believed was necessary to secure Hay.

The Kangaroos are expected to decide this morning whether to release Motlop to Port and give over picks 13, 14 and 29 to Hawthorn in exchange for Hay and pick 22. If they do so, Pickett will cross to Melbourne in exchange for Armstrong and pick 28, which will be on-traded to Hawthorn.

Fremantle is not expected to make an improved offer. It is believed the Dockers were reconsidering their commitment to acquiring Hay last night after it became apparent they would either have to give over more draft picks or act on the risk of trading a potential star such as Graham Polak or Murphy.

Adelaide's decision yesterday to accept pick 17 from St Kilda for Fergus Watts and conclude the first deal of this year's trade period immediately raised the prospect of the Crows on-trading the selection for Brisbane flanker Troy Selwood, who flew to Adelaide last night for a meeting today.

"He's on our radar but we haven't yet committed in any form. We're still thinking that one through," Adelaide football manager John Reid said of the 21-year-old Lion.

Brisbane's Llane Spaanderman, 19, also is being linked with the Crows, who met Western Bulldog Patrick Bowden in Adelaide yesterday but are understood to have decided against pursuing a trade for him.

According to coach Grant Thomas, the Saints are considering a versatile role for Watts, the 20-year-old who was a first-round selection in the 2003 draft.

The Kangaroos met West Coast yesterday to discuss a trade for Daniel McConnell, 19, who wants to return to Victoria. Carlton also has an interest in McConnell and has hatched an ambitious plan of moving Trent Sporn to Adelaide for pick 17 and on-trading that selection to the Eagles. Sporn, like Selwood, flew to Adelaide last night to meet Crows coach Neil Craig this morning.

Essendon defender Ted Richards wants to take his career to Sydney but the Dons are exploring deals elsewhere, including a swap with Carlton for Scott Camporeale. The Western Bulldogs are also keen on Richards but are not prepared to give up anything more than pick 27 for the 22-year-old.
 
to be honest I am sick of giving Hawthorn our early draft picks... especially bloody two of them in one year

so we get hay (went pick 39?) and pick22

and lose junior (went pick 8) and picks 13 and 29

just trade junior and keep our picks so we can have some fun with a few early picks for a change...
 

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So we we get Hay for Motlop and a first round draft pick. We move up the pecking order in round 2 by swapping 29 for 22 as part of the deal. Motlop goes to Port for just a first round pick.
I don't think Hay is worth that much and Port get Motlop for a fairly good price.

I think the winners in this possible trade are the Hawks, followed by Port and we trail by a fair bit.
 
Upgrading our second pick puts a positive balance to the equation. Thanx for pointing it out guys. So I suppose, we on trade pick 22 for the much anticipated WCE D-Mac who is a midfielder/ fwd option ??? So much for JYD's RUCKMAN wish ?????? :rolleyes: what other pocket full of miracles can come out from the draft ??
 
I could live with 13 and 29. That way we keep one first rounder and solve our fb and probably our chf problem/s. No way to giving up two first rounders. I don't give a toss about improving a few places in the later rounds.
 
Woodson said:
Upgrading our second pick puts a positive balance to the equation. Thanx for pointing it out guys. So I suppose, we on trade pick 22 for the much anticipated WCE D-Mac who is a midfielder/ fwd option ??? So much for JYD's RUCKMAN wish ?????? :rolleyes: what other pocket full of miracles can come out from the draft ??

That makes sense because the talk was that the WCE and Roos agreed that D-Mac wasn't worth a first round pick but pick 29 was too high as well. Hopefully 22 sorts that out.
 
Rooboy 96 said:
to be honest I am sick of giving Hawthorn our early draft picks... especially bloody two of them in one year

so we get hay (went pick 39?) and pick22

and lose junior (went pick 8) and picks 13 and 29

just trade junior and keep our picks so we can have some fun with a few early picks for a change...

Which pick they were intially picked with can be a bit misleading. Hay is better than the 30+ pick he went with, whereas Motlop has not returned enough at this stage to warrant his high selection.

Also, aren't we giving up pick 14 as well (according to this report)? Two first rounds and a second round pick for Hay is far too much. I hope this is not true.
 
Motlop quotes from the Herald Sun:

"I'm overwhelmed with what the Brisbane Lions have done, with Leigh Matthews coming up to see me," Motlop said.

"But it's Port Adelaide or nothing. I'm good mates with Peter and Shaun Burgoyne and I like the lifestyle of Adelaide."
 
jonty12 said:
Motlop quotes from the Herald Sun:

"I'm overwhelmed with what the Brisbane Lions have done, with Leigh Matthews coming up to see me," Motlop said.

"But it's Port Adelaide or nothing. I'm good mates with Peter and Shaun Burgoyne and I like the lifestyle of Adelaide."

If Motlop and Port havetheir hearts set on each other why are we not trying to squeeze more out of Port in this deal? We have put a lot of time developing Motlop and if he is going to bare fruits it will be in the next four years, so they are getting a player who should be in his prime. I think we deserve more than just a first round for him.
 

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Briedis said:
If Motlop and Port havetheir hearts set on each other why are we not trying to squeeze more out of Port in this deal? We have put a lot of time developing Motlop and if he is going to bare fruits it will be in the next four years, so they are getting a player who should be in his prime. I think we deserve more than just a first round for him.

I totally agree. If the Hawks have us over a barrel, we should be giving it back to Port just as much.
 
jonty12 said:
Motlop quotes from the Herald Sun:

"I'm overwhelmed with what the Brisbane Lions have done, with Leigh Matthews coming up to see me," Motlop said.

"But it's Port Adelaide or nothing. I'm good mates with Peter and Shaun Burgoyne and I like the lifestyle of Adelaide."

If port offer nothing then he can have nothing.

Why don't we just use our damn first round pick instead of picking up an old and somewhat suspect player again? It is not going to do anything positive for the future, and is not going to work every time.
 
Looks like the draft will be a non-event for us this year, we are going to be giving away everything to gain a 26-27 yr old injury prone backman and a relatively unproven kid who has been identified as slow but with abiltiy. Someone please make this nightmare stop!

Wrath
 
WA ROO said:
we will be the laughing stock of the AFL.It is Freo-esque how bad this deal is


The bizzare thing is that Freo ain't involved. I'd love to pinch Sandilands anyway.
 
This chase for instant success is getting costly. Motlop and pick 13 for Hay is ridiculous! If this happens heads need to roll.
 
There is still hope. This info is coming from the same group that insisted Grant wanted 600K. I'm reverting back to my I believe it when there's an official announcement mode. Less stressful and more accurate.
 
Meh, we PSD Motlop tell Hawthorn to take pick 13 or get stuffed and try and get dmac from Eagles for our second and third round pick.

I'd sleep well at night with that outcome.

Moltlop going cheaply to port... no friggin way.

Two first round picks and a second round pick for Hay... get the F outta here.
 
dipper86 said:
This trade is music to my ears, please please let it be true. :thumbsu:

By the way Motlop is one dirty f*ck.

It is no wonder he wants to go to PA, would be right at home. ;)
 

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