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Four way Hay maker deal nearing completion! You heard it here first!
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FFS!
Hay's value doesn't extend past a first round pick, hawthorn knows this.
hay's value is either out first pick, or freo's.
Why, after Hay saying he will leave the hawks and calling them liars, his trade value suddenly explodes is beyond me.
There is no f way this could happen.
NO DEAL.
Hay's value doesn't extend past a first round pick, hawthorn knows this.
hay's value is either out first pick, or freo's.
Why, after Hay saying he will leave the hawks and calling them liars, his trade value suddenly explodes is beyond me.
There is no f way this could happen.
NO DEAL.
Well we should know early this morning if it goes through....Roos please please please play hardball! Are we ever going to draft young kids again??
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It is very early but I am reading this right?
Effectively we lose Motlop and our first two draft picks and get Hay? Forget the other little exchange of picks.
Seems very one sided to me.
Can't be right.
Effectively we lose Motlop and our first two draft picks and get Hay? Forget the other little exchange of picks.
Seems very one sided to me.
Can't be right.
Are we going to have absolutely no participation in this draft? if this goes through we will probably use pick 22 on Mconnell...Rawlings on 4th round...anything left???
jonty12 said:
Until his mood swings prompt the Burgoyne bros to tell him to push off. Wasn't he mates with Wells and Eddie?
If this all eventuates, I have only one thing to say;
ARE WE MAD?
ARE WE MAD?
Actually, after reading this again and with Shannon, Davey, Whelan and Choppy at Melbourne, I wonder if Motlop will decide in a week or two that this is his preferred destination?
Hmmph. Motlop had some interest being shown by both Melbourne and Brisbane and according to reports were offering a fair bit. Hay had no interest in him apart from us (freo didnt appear to offer anything), and somehow Motlop is going for way less than those offers and Hay is way overpriced. I'm really confused. Why has Laidley only had his heart set on Hay. Obviously the 'get him at any cost' approach.
If this deal goes ahead I will be so pis#ed off. We are just going to totally f#ck up this trade period. We have a chance to set ourselves up perfectly.
It seems we get a player who we want and we won't stop at anything to get him on our list.
I want Hay but not at this cost it's just unbelievable to think we could be stupid enough to pay this and Rawlings I will consider not buying a membership if this deal is made. I'd rather get Mick Martyn back before Rawlings
It seems we get a player who we want and we won't stop at anything to get him on our list.
I want Hay but not at this cost it's just unbelievable to think we could be stupid enough to pay this and Rawlings I will consider not buying a membership if this deal is made. I'd rather get Mick Martyn back before Rawlings
So let me get this straight.We lose Motlop,pick 13,pick 14 and pick 29 and get Hay and pick 22 in return.Its another Haymaker alright from the ********ing Hawks...These bastards must see Laidley coming.Sorry that is a terrible deal for the Kangaroos.They may be resigned to losing Motlop,but in that deal he gets very little fanfare which he wanted and Port Adelaide which he wanted.
We get Hay which we wanted but that could'nt be good enough surely.With the picks we've lost and the fact they'll probably blow 22 on some untried kid from West Coast, think Laidley's failed again in my opinion.Having said that they have'nt actually agreed to it yet,and hopefully they see sense and tell Motlop to get ********ed.
BIIIG BIIIG
We get Hay which we wanted but that could'nt be good enough surely.With the picks we've lost and the fact they'll probably blow 22 on some untried kid from West Coast, think Laidley's failed again in my opinion.Having said that they have'nt actually agreed to it yet,and hopefully they see sense and tell Motlop to get ********ed.
BIIIG BIIIG
Can we write a petition to stop this happening?
Trade Motlop to Port for Pick 14 and get out I say. Perhaps try to squeeze for their 2nd round pick as well.
Perry, Watt and Brown are fine in defence for me now.
Gee this makes Petrie look good!
Trade Motlop to Port for Pick 14 and get out I say. Perhaps try to squeeze for their 2nd round pick as well.
Perry, Watt and Brown are fine in defence for me now.
Gee this makes Petrie look good!
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Moti said:Can we write a petition to stop this happening?
Trade Motlop to Port for Pick 14 and get out I say. Perhaps try to squeeze for their 2nd round pick as well.
Perry, Watt and Brown are fine in defence for me now.
Gee this makes Petrie look good!
Where do I sign Moti??
God forbid we actually use a bloody draft pick...
Everyone has summed it up. Pure insanity. Harrington and Laidley have already shown little aptitude for the trade table.. if this one goes through they are as bad as anyone in recent AFL past.
DON'T DO IT NORTH.
Why can't we just use Motlop to drag as much out of Port as possible and load up our list with more prospects? Not exactly flush with definite AFL kids despite what is claimed..
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If this trade is anywhere near true Hawthorn are robbing some clubs blind.
Is Hay really worth as much as is being touted ?
Has he done anything for a couple years ? .... siously a pick in the second half of the first round and a pick in the mid - high 20's would be roughly Hays value.
Is Hay really worth as much as is being touted ?
Has he done anything for a couple years ? .... siously a pick in the second half of the first round and a pick in the mid - high 20's would be roughly Hays value.
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Yes. People are going over the top based on conflicting newspaper reports. At least wait until a trade has been done before getting so emotional. If North actually did the one proposed, it would be open season and fair enough. We've done nothing yet.Rooboy 96 said:
Malibu#27 said:
I just read the article again... not only are the hawks getting picks 13... 14... 29... but also 28...
this wont happen Hay becomes more valuable then a former Cat Captain we recruited some years ago... absolute bullshyte!!!
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Rooboy 96 said:
Unfort not because we didn't want it to mate...
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King Corey said:
Only to a point - seemed the deal could have been done if we'd agreed to Hawthorn's laughable trade proposals. The Veale Deal came into play later in the week because we weren't prepared to throw in whatever Hawthorn wanted to get Rawlings.
It must be me, but I can't get too excited about all this talk.
I like Hay as a player, I like that we are his first choice club, where he believes he'll experience success in the next couple of years, and I hope we can get him for a reasonable price.
I'd rather get something for Motlop than nothing. And if we get pick 14 for him then spend it, I don't count that as giving up a player and a pick as some seem to - it's just one or the other we give up.
And I am not in love with keeping and using mid-range draft picks just because we can - these are not top 5 star picks, and trading them for known quality is a perfectly reasonable option, especially when the known players are still young. Someone complained we might spend pick 22/29 on McConnell when he's unknown - but he's certainly not more unknown than the kids in the draft, he knows more about operating and training at AFL level, and he's got a bit of muscle built up we don't have to wait for.
Playing the kids might be all the rage when you are desperate for something good to talk about, but sometimes a short cut is possible and a bargain can be had. I'd prefer to aim for a balanced list, however unfashionable it sounds in some quarters - they still are the ones that win premierships, despite the PR coming out of Hawthorn. We've got a backlog of kids to get into our senior side, why the pressing need to add more to the list of AFL-unready talent?
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