His value is maybe 5000 neutral supporters to every home game
Perhaps the afl see this translating to 10000 for GWS
And we could continue to top up with role players while buddy being there is an attraction
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Perhaps the afl see this translating to 10000 for GWS
And we could continue to top up with role players while buddy being there is an attraction
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Should have traded him when we had the chance. Now we get nothing.
Even knowing early, we could attempt to woo another out of contract player. Thumbs firmly up our arses
Even knowing early, we could attempt to woo another out of contract player. Thumbs firmly up our arses
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Absolutly that as well will have an effect if he leaves.
Maybe we wont qualify for a pick at all if we also go shopping
When is ablett out of contract ?
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I agree, wouldn't trust Pickering as far as I could throw him. My heart sunk when I realised he was Buddy's agent. Hate agents overall, they are leeches just there for their own interests, don't have the player's interests at heart and Pickering is the worst of them all. Wouldn't be surprised if he is the one behind this despite what he says, the guy has zero credibility as far as I am concerned. Spends all his time giving interviews, and then saying he can't comment, loves the attention, and I can't stand the way SEN and other media suck up to him.
Disappointed in this because of the distraction factor. Want Buddy to stay but if he wants to go, fine, good luck to him. Just sort it out now. The Cloke thing had a negative impact on Collingwood and I wouldn't like to see the same thing at Hawthorn.
Regarding who would have the cap space well you can rule out the Swans and Collingwood.
Freo obviously would and the Eagles could as well but it would take the retirements of Glass approx ($600k) + Embely ($400k) and Nicoski ($350k). Cox retiring in a year or two will also free up cap space mid contract.
There would also be a host of other clubs who have the space and would simply retire / move on some high paid 30 year olds.
Look what happened with Cloke though, the Pies didn't offer what he wanted so he stalled, when they offered what he thought was fair he re-signed. Buddy will do the same IMO.
Freo obviously would and the Eagles could as well but it would take the retirements of Glass approx ($600k) + Embely ($400k) and Nicoski ($350k). Cox retiring in a year or two will also free up cap space mid contract.
There would also be a host of other clubs who have the space and would simply retire / move on some high paid 30 year olds.
Look what happened with Cloke though, the Pies didn't offer what he wanted so he stalled, when they offered what he thought was fair he re-signed. Buddy will do the same IMO.
Buddy is nothing more then a greedy lad who wants to hold it off so hawthorn can increase his contract at years end....
The offer we gave him is very very good and if he sells his soul to another club for an extra 2-300 k over 4 years then he can get f***.. Im sick of these players who clubs have been so loyal treat the club like this when a good genuine offer is on the table. " I AM HAWTHORN " ...... Buddy wants to hold of talks but there is so much negative's in doing so.... His performance will be average or below par cause of the speculation week in week out..
He puts everyone of us supporters on basic life support until he decides what he want to do..... The thought of losing buddy would kill me!!!!
The offer we gave him is very very good and if he sells his soul to another club for an extra 2-300 k over 4 years then he can get f***.. Im sick of these players who clubs have been so loyal treat the club like this when a good genuine offer is on the table. " I AM HAWTHORN " ...... Buddy wants to hold of talks but there is so much negative's in doing so.... His performance will be average or below par cause of the speculation week in week out..
He puts everyone of us supporters on basic life support until he decides what he want to do..... The thought of losing buddy would kill me!!!!
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But seriously, hope he resigns with you guys. Hate free agency and how it exacerbates the financial factor in the equation, diminishing the relative value of loyalty to team and club. (I hate to think what it would have meant in the 90s with Carey and our financial capacity at the time.)
They really need to tighten up the third party deals situation; it's making a mockery of the salary cap.
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Maybe the Club offered him a certain amount of money because it had to think about some of our young players who's contracts expire in the coming years and the Club wants to make sure that there is money left in the cap to re sign the other players who they feel will be part of our next premiership. The Club has to think about it's entire playing list, not just Franklin.
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Rather awkward situation. As mentioned above, list also has to be managed. What do you guys think will be the hawks decision if a club offers 1.5m? Do you match it and risk the list or let him go?
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God, I don't want to see him leave.
I don't care if we get the first 3 picks in return (not that we will, thanks to FA).
Buddy is more than just a player. He is the BEST player. He's the most valuable, he's the best to watch, with the best highlight reel and the most consistently amazing performances. He will go down in history as one of the greats and I just hope that is as a Hawthorn great.
I don't want to even contemplate losing that and I don't think I'm quite ready to go over the 'if he does leave' scenarios just yet.
You can call him greedy or slag him or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that he is an absolutely astoundingly good footballer. We aren't 'better off without him' no matter what.
I don't care if we get the first 3 picks in return (not that we will, thanks to FA).
Buddy is more than just a player. He is the BEST player. He's the most valuable, he's the best to watch, with the best highlight reel and the most consistently amazing performances. He will go down in history as one of the greats and I just hope that is as a Hawthorn great.
I don't want to even contemplate losing that and I don't think I'm quite ready to go over the 'if he does leave' scenarios just yet.
You can call him greedy or slag him or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that he is an absolutely astoundingly good footballer. We aren't 'better off without him' no matter what.
Depends who we could recruit with he money freed up
Could come out of it ahead in list strength at least
I couldn't care less about the timing of the decision (everyone is entitled to check the lie of the land) but the distraction and media attention is the killer.
I just want to enjoy my footy.
I just want to enjoy my footy.
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head right there, the whole thing stinks of greed, everyone has seen first hand what these situations bring with regards to the Cloke situation and also Goddard to a certain extent, it creates a black cloud over the club for the whole season which the club nor players have any control over, the thought of losing buddy sickens me but the thought of this effecting the team to the extent that it potentially costs us a flag sickens me more, if Buddy wants out he should just say it, not drag it out, I'm so f**king steamed atm
Pickering is selling him short if its a money thing
Hed het more money even on a rookie list at a big money sport overseas
Hed het more money even on a rookie list at a big money sport overseas
mark my words right here, buddy will sign with the hawks but its most likely going to cost us the flag this year with all the speculation builds ups closer to finals time.... If Buddy's performance this year is below average then he can F*** off, he did this to himself with his greed... There are no excuses to drag out a contract talk if you love your club and is happy with the pay put forward to you.. Dragging it on is plain and simple " I WANT MORE MORE MORE" heck buddy and as much as i would hate to see him go but anything over 1 .1 mil a season is a waste..... The benefits of what we could secure and free up salary space would be massive...
Just think what Roughy would do as our number 1 forward instead of being in buddy's shadow.
Im sorry im just fuming of how a player we build a club around does this... he has it all here..... greed of money does this to people...
Just think what Roughy would do as our number 1 forward instead of being in buddy's shadow.
Im sorry im just fuming of how a player we build a club around does this... he has it all here..... greed of money does this to people...
I agree, and feel someone has been into his ear. I believe, if he were to go to another club our biggest losses would be in membership and club finances. We showede last year we could win without him.
Hmm, another code interested, now that would be interesting.
Take it with a grain of salt of course...
But Robinson just interviewed on SEN said that Pickering told him it was Franklin who pulled the pin on talks.
That can't be good.....
But Robinson just interviewed on SEN said that Pickering told him it was Franklin who pulled the pin on talks.
That can't be good.....
my kids love the hawks and buddy and the thought of him the purple haze.... oh my im dry retching
So robbo actually strung a sentence together ?
He was bad last year but hes come back this year practically unintelligible
If he had a head for tv hed need subtitles
Maybe hes been researching the drug scene !!
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It's not expansion clubs and free agency that are killing loyalty in this sport; it's greed.
Like you, I find it hard to believe that Franklin is up for a media scorching every week for an entire season. Who knows; maybe Pickering wants the scrutiny for his client; it would certainly force him to become a more engaged media performer.
This is just a horrible development and a real threat to our premiership campaign. I take heart in the very real possibility that Dunstall and Clarkson are as ticked off about it as many of us appear to be and are the sort of men who could convince Buddy to do the right by a team and an organisation that's always done the right thing by him.
If a romour like that got around, it might force someones hand
Jus sying, im not encouraging people to circulate false rumoys
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