Opinion Frankston. What can be done about it?

Frankston: What should be dona about it?

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has anyone seen District 9 because that's what I'd do to Frankston, catfood and all.

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In the 1970s and '80s, my aunt and uncle lived in Frankston, in a house which was right on the beach. You literally walked across their back yard, and beyond their back fence was the sand. I cant recall the name of the area - something island?

Anyway, my uncle put a gate in the back fence so he could walk straight out onto the beach, and the Council made him remove it and put the fence back. On the grounds of not being allowed to have direct private access to the beach. To go swimming, he had to leave by the front of his house, go along the street, and then down the path to the beach like everyone else.

For a while he considered putting in a low-medium height fence, which he could step over to access the beach. But then all the beach goers could see over the fence into his property, or step over it themselves into his back yard. Not good. He never resolved the situation to his benefit.

I believe there are only a few hundred properties in Victoria which have titles backing onto the beach/coast. Some have the same access constraints as my uncle. Others have direct access to the beach, with their title extending to the high water mark. Not sure how that works. I worked on a heritage property in Sorrento a few years ago, and I think it had the high water mark title. It really irked the owners that the public could walk along 'their' beach, but I'm pretty sure the public is entitled to access and use any beach in Victoria, despite these unusual titles (which would not be granted any more). Wonder what will happen with rising sea levels?
 
In the 1970s and '80s, my aunt and uncle lived in Frankston, in a house which was right on the beach. You literally walked across their back yard, and beyond their back fence was the sand. I cant recall the name of the area - something island?

Anyway, my uncle put a gate in the back fence so he could walk straight out onto the beach, and the Council made him remove it and put the fence back. On the grounds of not being allowed to have direct private access to the beach. To go swimming, he had to leave by the front of his house, go along the street, and then down the path to the beach like everyone else.

For a while he considered putting in a low-medium height fence, which he could step over to access the beach. But then all the beach goers could see over the fence into his property, or step over it themselves into his back yard. Not good. He never resolved the situation to his benefit.

I believe there are only a few hundred properties in Victoria which have titles backing onto the beach/coast. Some have the same access constraints as my uncle. Others have direct access to the beach, with their title extending to the high water mark. Not sure how that works. I worked on a heritage property in Sorrento a few years ago, and I think it had the high water mark title. It really irked the owners that the public could walk along 'their' beach, but I'm pretty sure the public is entitled to access and use any beach in Victoria, despite these unusual titles (which would not be granted any more). Wonder what will happen with rising sea levels?

Long Island? My mum used to live in a property in Carrum that backed right onto the beach, you opened her back gate and there was just a 30m sand path through the dunes to get to the beach... they had a gate. I think they might have relaxed those laws now. There are many along Nepean Highway from Chelsea to Frankston that have direct access now, and not even the Beach Rd millionaires have access like that! I may be wrong but I think I read once that Lindsay Fox evens OWNS his own private beach which you are not allowed to go on! I really don't know what the laws are now but my Mum definitely had a gate straight onto the beach... I was so jealous of her just sitting there looking out the lounge room window onto the bay, every day was different from rough as guts to crystal clear so needless to say I visited a lot in those days! :p
 
In the 1970s and '80s, my aunt and uncle lived in Frankston, in a house which was right on the beach. You literally walked across their back yard, and beyond their back fence was the sand. I cant recall the name of the area - something island?

Anyway, my uncle put a gate in the back fence so he could walk straight out onto the beach, and the Council made him remove it and put the fence back. On the grounds of not being allowed to have direct private access to the beach. To go swimming, he had to leave by the front of his house, go along the street, and then down the path to the beach like everyone else.

For a while he considered putting in a low-medium height fence, which he could step over to access the beach. But then all the beach goers could see over the fence into his property, or step over it themselves into his back yard. Not good. He never resolved the situation to his benefit.

I believe there are only a few hundred properties in Victoria which have titles backing onto the beach/coast. Some have the same access constraints as my uncle. Others have direct access to the beach, with their title extending to the high water mark. Not sure how that works. I worked on a heritage property in Sorrento a few years ago, and I think it had the high water mark title. It really irked the owners that the public could walk along 'their' beach, but I'm pretty sure the public is entitled to access and use any beach in Victoria, despite these unusual titles (which would not be granted any more). Wonder what will happen with rising sea levels?

I bet IF he had Friends at the Council. He would of been allowed to do that. Plus it's a Bloody Public Beach
 
i reckon the dark horse for melbourne's worst suburb could be docklands. Full of ugly buildings, criminals who don't want to be found, bad traffic and lots of pollution. At least Frankston as some authenticity about it, there is someting very fake about docklands.

I agree. My ex gf's father owned a BBQ business, 1 store, he was rich but not that rich you know. Anyway he buys the TOP floor penthouse of a massive apartment complex, he owns the entire top floor and it is literally across the road from Etihad. You would think that must cost 5 million but it doesn't. Nowhere near it. Docklands looks like its full of money but its not, its fake... you have to be an idiot to invest in Docklands, its soulless and barren and windswept.
 

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I agree. My ex gf's father owned a BBQ business, 1 store, he was rich but not that rich you know. Anyway he buys the TOP floor penthouse of a massive apartment complex, he owns the entire top floor and it is literally across the road from Etihad. You would think that must cost 5 million but it doesn't. Nowhere near it. Docklands looks like its full of money but its not, its fake... you have to be an idiot to invest in Docklands, its soulless and barren and windswept.

Same as the Ground there
 
I agree. My ex gf's father owned a BBQ business, 1 store, he was rich but not that rich you know. Anyway he buys the TOP floor penthouse of a massive apartment complex, he owns the entire top floor and it is literally across the road from Etihad. You would think that must cost 5 million but it doesn't. Nowhere near it. Docklands looks like its full of money but its not, its fake... you have to be an idiot to invest in Docklands, its soulless and barren and windswept.

Where did you invest again?
 
I still rent. I'm only 35 and plan to try avoid getting a mortgage and buy my first house outright. I am a sole trader with a gardening/lawn care business.
We have a similar business. I've got a landscape business and we also do garden maintenance. Made the switch about 5 years ago and have never regretted it. My back is fooked now though so I have had to employ people do do the hard stuff recently and that has kinda messed with the profitability and peace of mind thing. Hope it's going well for you.
 
I still rent. I'm only 35 and plan to try avoid getting a mortgage and buy my first house outright. I am a sole trader with a gardening/lawn care business.
May I ask what your logic is behind this? Couldn't you buy a place on an interest only loan, which should be a similar cost to renting, keep saving at your current rate, then when you have enough to buy outright, sell your current abode for a profit or rent it out? (Assuming you're still a few years away from reaching your savings goal).
 
May I ask what your logic is behind this? Couldn't you buy a place on an interest only loan, which should be a similar cost to renting, keep saving at your current rate, then when you have enough to buy outright, sell your current abode for a profit or rent it out? (Assuming you're still a few years away from reaching your savings goal).
Hard to get a mortgage when you are self employed and single I'd suggest. It only takes one injury and he's out of work... he's got the right idea I reckon for his circumstance.
 
Hard to get a mortgage when you are self employed and single I'd suggest. It only takes one injury and he's out of work... he's got the right idea I reckon for his circumstance.
Fair enough, I had a feeling that the self employment would have something to do with it.
 

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