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Why does it mean we are going to be shitfor 30 years?

Clubs rebuild quicker now than they ever have before.

It doesn't look good, but its not doom and gloom like it would have been 10-20 years ago.


Clubs rebuild quicker these days, but only on the basis they choose to.

We just wasted 3 years on NOT rebuilding, then sewed it all up by trading away 2 years of our best picks - it basically puts you back 5. So any benefit teams get these days on be able. to rebuild "faster", we have well and truely pissed away

When we showed the clear signs of decline in 2021, i thought we could be fighting for a flag again within 3-5 years.

Now we are basically 2 years after that point and i really cant see it happening for 5, but most likely a lot longer, especially if we do hire Mini as coach.

?I know we had success with the Dimma way once, but the road there was super bumpy early on. Those first run of finals losses were awful - realy embarrassing losses - and 2016 was a utter shitshow. That was why 2017 was such a HUGE shock. I don't know what our odds were at the start of the season in 2017, but they would have had to been 100-1+ - it was a dramatic swing to success & we had a lot of nifty pieces all come together at a perfect time. I am not sure what you can replicate from that journey?

To me the bricks to our dynasty was built on high quality prospects combined with being high quality people. Dimma was a high quality person during this tenure ( i obviously feel that changed over the hub ), but the team was built on Cotchin,Dustin & Rance. These 3 were not just generational players, they were exceptional people and leaders too. Its a rare mix. Those were the 3 names that we got all around the same time that changed this club, forever. Pick 2,3 & a priority pick 18. Beyond that, we also had Edwards, Riewoldt, Grimes, Astbury, Vloss - all guys taken with good picks in drafts a bit earlier - but also fitting that rule. Then we did some SMART deals with Grigg & Houli -= again 2 just exceptional humans - leaders of the highest order. We were collecting a type of person who became "The Tiger Ethos". It was such a ragtag bunch of interesting people with spiritual beliefs & strong traits in building family & community.

I thought after 2021, we had the right idea somewhat in that we got 5 picks in the top 30. The style of player we chose to recruit with those picks was bizzare really, nto really pieces you can "build around", just role player types. The decision to get Tarrant really worried me as the 2nd year was clearly a massive reach & last off-season was a disaster in motion. The strategy Dimma played post our flags, which is the era Mini joined the club, the rebuilding & recruiting strategy has been pretty poor really
 
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We didn’t even make finals in 2021, and 2022 was a lucky run lead by a player everyone is now calling for their head in cumdog
Every time we do well it is luck LOL.

We finished 2 games and % ahead of ninth despite losing all the close games. A goal review cost us the final
 
Retire: Cotchin, Jack, Grimes, Tarrant, Castagna
Trade/FA: McIntosh, Broad, Cumberland, Graham, Ralphsmith
Delist: Pickett, Mansell, Dow, Colina, Bradtke

Appoint Baker as the new captain
Appoint Carr as new head coach
Clean out Teague and Truck
Get the best Performance manager money can buy
 
Every time we do well it is luck LOL.

We finished 2 games and % ahead of ninth despite losing all the close games. A goal review cost us the final

Well it must be otherwise why didn’t our coaches select Cumbo from round 1. Must have been lucky to score 2+ goals a game. If you can’t read between the lines don’t reply. I’m not saying we don’t have the talent I’m saying our coaching group needs to be fixed. Blake Caracella is the guy we are missing most!!!
 
Retire: Cotchin, Jack, Grimes, Tarrant, Castagna
Trade/FA: McIntosh, Broad, Cumberland, Graham, Ralphsmith
Delist: Pickett, Mansell, Dow, Colina, Bradtke

Appoint Baker as the new captain
Appoint Carr as new head coach
Clean out Teague and Truck
Get the best Performance manager money can buy
Why would we get rid of Truck? Was our defence coach when we won in 2017 and for a few years before that. Helped develop Astbury, Rance, Grimes and is now successfully doing the same with Balta and Young.
 
Retire: Cotchin, Jack, Grimes, Tarrant, Castagna
Trade/FA: McIntosh, Broad, Cumberland, Graham, Ralphsmith
Delist: Pickett, Mansell, Dow, Colina, Bradtke

Appoint Baker as the new captain
Appoint Carr as new head coach
Clean out Teague and Truck
Get the best Performance manager money can buy
Broad has been good, was undersized on his opponent today
 

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Well it must be otherwise why didn’t our coaches select Cumbo from round 1. Must have been lucky to score 2+ goals a game. If you can’t read between the lines don’t reply. I’m not saying we don’t have the talent I’m saying our coaching group needs to be fixed. Blake Caracella is the guy we are missing most!!!
The problem is that we don't have the talent though. There are a lot of holes in our list now as our flag stars all retire one by one.
 
Recruiters are rubbish? The recruiters have struck gold with plenty of great rookie and and second round selections in recent enough history. Calm ya farm, can’t always be in contention gary
They do need looking at though. Its obvious to all of us KPF is a need yet we recruit another hbf who hasn't got a game yet over Van Rooyen who is getting games and kicked 4 v us last week.
 
Time to admit it, Dimma ******* some ** in Gold Coast lockdown was also the ultimate ***** of the club. Lucky we got that circus flag but really we’ve been ****ed ever since.

All the good coaches left the club while we have been left with the s**t.

Recruiters are rubbish, fitness staff are rubbish and coaches. Time to clean our everyone and start fresh. Otherwise we are ****ed just like Hawthorn.
Did you say this after the Swans game in 2016 or even the Saints game in 2017?

If you're going to melt like this, move on. Stop watching sports. We just won 3 flags and your carrying on like this.pathetic
 
They do need looking at though. Its obvious to all of us KPF is a need yet we recruit another hbf who hasn't got a game yet over Van Rooyen who is getting games and kicked 4 v us last week.

That is another woeful recruitment decision similar to Higgins over Allen. Didn’t need an arrogant flog small forward, actually needed a KPF.
 
Not part of our next premiership
We should extract any trade value and let him finish at a WA club on better coin
So we should tank?

Broad is a player we need so the young players can get experience from him. Should retire Grimes at the end of next season (contracted for 2024).
Likely to be KMacs, Graham's (free agent) and Pickett's last season.
 
Explain that to Geelong/Collingwood/Sydney.. yes not as many flags but rarely bottom out. Our club is huge but all of a sudden we look like we’re back to 1990-2010 times. I’ve been through the pain and it looks exactly that way now, may as well recruit a couple more guns like Kane Johnson.
Collingwood and Swans both bottomed out........what are you on about
 

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