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Rumour Future of the club (Bevo, board, assistant coaches, football department)
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Too close to Bevo. Last thing Bevo or any coach needs in the coaching panel is yes men or people that were part of his squad/playing group. He needs people to challenge him and with different ideas from outside our footy club.
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I’m not sure Bevo wants to be challenged, as such. That’s why he chooses co-coaches who are on the same page with his vision. If a person has new or different ideas they would reveal them at interview and he’d decide if this person will add anything to his overall plan.
Where does the concept come from that Bevo is an autocrat surrounded by yes-men? There’s no reason to think that there wouldn’t be robust discussions when solving problems or reworking strategies. But ultimately the buck stops with him.
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Murphy just got a gig doing ABC radio in the mornings, so as mentioned before any role he would have with the dogs would be part time.
I don't believe Bevo is surrounded by yes men at all or wants to be surrounded by them. It seems like 1 of those things that has no merit or proof. He joined a club where Hansen, Gia, King, Rohan & Maddocks etc... were already part of the club. The last of them left this year with Maddocks. He has only just got his own coaching group at the end of 2023. The change in 2024 has shown a group that bring his message across is likely a good thing.
Bob Murphy is not a yes man.
Bob Murphy is not a yes man.
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Bob and the ABC. Sounds like a perfect match
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Team selection. Our last game, a big final against Hawthorn and he doesn’t play Rylee West and Riley Garcia, two lads built for finals, we were embarrassed in front of the football world.
West was coming off an injury wasn't he and Garcia hadn't been able to lock down a spot all year... yes, we were embarrassed but that was because every single player had a bad day and Hawthorn played out of their skin.
Even Bont had a downer...
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West had a broken Jaw from memory
Westy played in the two's the week before. His jaw was broken but had recovered.
After a solid year Westy was stiff to miss the final. I would have played him. Not that it would have made a difference though.
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Only if you’re happy with that one year of glory.
He was more than a jet that year (and 2015 too). He was more of a demigod.
It has been a chequered 8 seasons since though. That’s why “enough said” doesn’t quite say enough.
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I like the idea of a one year extension. Put the media to rest early. The extension can come with terms so it does not cost us a fortune if we terminate at season end.. This is far better than speculation about Bevo every time we have a loss and destabilizing our season.
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Unfair on 2021. Making a grand final regardless of the result is still a good result and benefits the club. It's also the reason he's still here.
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“Chequered” doesn’t mean unrelentingly bad. It means a mix of good and bad. That’s what it has been.
2021 was definitely one of the good seasons - the best since 2016 - but it’s hard to compare with other seasons because of the huge covid disruptions.
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Injuries aside, selection decisions which can be good or bad aren't proof one way or another of a coaching panel being full of "yes men". It can be equally true in the other direction anything the ability to make tough selection decisions is proof that there aren't yes men in the coaching camp, otherwise the decisions being made would be the easy ones, for example
Completely agree with this. There has been good and bad from Bev. The good has been good enough that I am in the “keep Bevo” camp but I hope there has been “learnings” from the bad efforts. Bewildering selection decisions aside I am most disappointed with the wasted post premiership seasons. We are a small membership numbers club and imo the only way to increase membership and supporter numbers is to win flags. Changing our name, playing games in Ballarat and even a robodog jumper might give marginal fan base increases but nothing comes close to giving kids in primary school a run of success to be proud of and become rusted on fans. We had the opportunity post 2016 and Bev and the club missed it.
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I would go further and say success is the only thing that will genuinely sustainably grow our support base.
Though it is not simply on Bevo this did not happen after 2016. Player behaviour, retirements etc contributed significantly more
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