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[Kernel Kurtz]

Schrinner has come out and said he would have backed Victoria Park Stadium, IF it could be done for under $3.4B

From The Courier Mail:
Brisbane Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner says he would have personally backed building a brand-new stadium at the council-owned Victoria Park – but only if it could have been built for less than $3.4bn.

Mr Schrinner said while a 55,000 seat stadium was “not part of my plan to transform Victoria Park into an iconic parkland”, he personally would have accepted the proposal had it fulfilled three key elements.

These included keeping the stadium footprint to a minimum, no net loss of parkland, and the stadium delivering a cheaper option than knocking down and rebuilding the Gabba.

“Graham Quirk told me that the stadium was estimated to take up little more than 10 per cent of the massive 64-hectare park, so the first two conditions were certainly achievable,” he said.
“However, at $3.4bn, unfortunately, meeting the third condition was unlikely.



Considering the stadium itself was just under $2B according to Quirk, there surely would be a way to do it cheaper than $3.4B. We desperately need proper costing for Vic Park to be done

So 2 billion for the stadium itself.
Add on the cost of wider pedestrian prominades over the Icb (wider than what would be required if it was just a giant park- Schriner plan), that would be required.
Additional costs for capability for logistics that are required for the operation of the Stadium.
Connections to transport hubs: Bus terminal and train stations.
There are obviously other costs related to the stadium operations , add them on and do you get 3.4 billion or is the cost of the rest of the park reforestation, wetland area , Tree House etc incorporated in this cost as well.
I hope it's not.

Still, the fact that Schriner has come out and said he would be on board with this project if the price was right is still a positive and a flicker of a flame that can be stoked up.

 

[notliondown]

Here's the line for Schrinner and Crisafuli

"if Qld has to host the Olympics it deserves forever infrastructure as a result, not $2 billion spent on a temporary grandstand and repairs"

 

[2 eazy]

What is the opposition leader of Queensland view on this of he thinks same as Miles then unfortunately this plan on going ahead

 

[Andyz]

Schrinner has come out and said he would have backed Victoria Park Stadium, IF it could be done for under $3.4B

From The Courier Mail:
Brisbane Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner says he would have personally backed building a brand-new stadium at the council-owned Victoria Park – but only if it could have been built for less than $3.4bn.

Mr Schrinner said while a 55,000 seat stadium was “not part of my plan to transform Victoria Park into an iconic parkland”, he personally would have accepted the proposal had it fulfilled three key elements.

These included keeping the stadium footprint to a minimum, no net loss of parkland, and the stadium delivering a cheaper option than knocking down and rebuilding the Gabba.

“Graham Quirk told me that the stadium was estimated to take up little more than 10 per cent of the massive 64-hectare park, so the first two conditions were certainly achievable,” he said.
“However, at $3.4bn, unfortunately, meeting the third condition was unlikely.



Considering the stadium itself was just under $2B according to Quirk, there surely would be a way to do it cheaper than $3.4B. We desperately need proper costing for Vic Park to be done

Well all of a sudden there seems to be some wriggle room opening up!
I'm not much of a Schrinner fan tbh but if he manages to resurrect Quirk's recommendation and turn it into reality he'll be known for saving Brisban. He's been our mayor forever but hasn't really got a legacy other than quantity of years served....this could be all his if he finds a way.

 

[CarterS]

It’s an episode of The Games, Yes Minister and Utopia rolled into one.

Never commission an enquiry you don’t already know the outcome of

 

[Black Panther]

How much pull does Schrinner really have within the LNP?

 

[Dalions]

Well all of a sudden there seems to be some wriggle room opening up!
I'm not much of a Schrinner fan tbh but if he manages to resurrect Quirk's recommendation and turn it into reality he'll be known for saving Brisban. He's been our mayor forever but hasn't really got a legacy other than quantity of years served....this could be all his if he finds a way.

Schrinner is the only one who is safe in a political sense, having just been re-elected so he is the one who is able to make a strong stand without it being political suicide.

 

[M Malice]

Here's the line for Schrinner and Crisafuli

"if Qld has to host the Olympics it deserves forever infrastructure as a result, not $2 billion spent on a temporary grandstand and repairs"

All hail Lord Schrinner, at last a Politician with some vision... albeit as Dalions said he has 4 years before an election.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Here's the line for Schrinner and Crisafuli

"if Qld has to host the Olympics it deserves forever infrastructure as a result, not $2 billion spent on a temporary grandstand and repairs"

Interesting wording - if Brisbane ‘has to’ host? Do we assume from this that Schrinner was team ‘cancel’?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Schrinner has come out and said he would have backed Victoria Park Stadium, IF it could be done for under $3.4B

Oh how nice of him to come out in support AFTER his support was needed. We mustn't take a stand, or we might potentially lose a vote in the council election we were already favoured to win! Looks like his state counterpart has decided to play a similar game.

 

[notliondown]

Interesting wording - if Brisbane ‘has to’ host? Do we assume from this that Schrinner was team ‘cancel’?

No that was my wording... I was trying to tap into the idea that because this has become such a shitshow that people are now on the fence about the value of the Olympics.

So I was trying to say well if we're doing this get something out of it.

 

[notliondown]

How much pull does Schrinner really have within the LNP?

While he's not really on the same level he's their most successful and powerful Qld leader so his views will count for sure.

I also suspect that he wants his legacy considered.

 

[Maboo]

Greg Swann will be on SEN vic soon, Whately saying this morning that this is now becoming a national issue and and will affect the perception of Australia internationally. Also said it now needs to taken out of the hands of the QLD govt.

 

[Elixuh]

Aren’t the feds tipping in $3b? It puts albo in a tough spot but if they don’t like where this is headed he has a $3b voice in this discussion.

 

[M Malice]

Aren’t the feds tipping in $3b? It puts albo in a tough spot but if they don’t like where this is headed he has a $3b voice in this discussion.

What about the IOCs Billions, would they have to approve QSAC as the main Stadium and Lang Park hosting the opening and closing ceremonies?

 

[Bjo187]

Aren’t the feds tipping in $3b? It puts albo in a tough spot but if they don’t like where this is headed he has a $3b voice in this discussion.

Albo will take rugby leagues side 100 percent. Remember he is throwing 600 mill off taxpayer money for their 18th licence. He is also mates with Vlandy's, they go out to lunch together.

 

[Andyz]

Greg Swann will be on SEN vic soon, Whately saying this morning that this is now becoming a national issue and and will affect the perception of Australia internationally. Also said it now needs to taken out of the hands of the QLD govt.

There’s an idea, Miles Govt has made an utter mess of it thus far so it’s time for Feds to take control & save not just the games but also our future sporting infrastructure.

Talk about embarrassing, brisbane needs to be saved from its own state Govt that is completely incapable of thinking long term & providing much needed infrastructure for it’s own people!

 

[kalex6251]

sensing a backlash of sorts is building ..... there may be a bit more to play out on this yet

would be funny to see john coates power take a considerable hit over what is now an unmitigated mess

[edit] in time, this may also reveal some uncomfortable truths about power and influence in qld politics

 

[notliondown]

What about the IOCs Billions, would they have to approve QSAC as the main Stadium and Lang Park hosting the opening and closing ceremonies?

Albo will take rugby leagues side 100 percent. Remember he is throwing 600 mill off taxpayer money for their 18th licence. He is also mates with Vlandy's, they go out to lunch together.

Don't forget that Miles is blaming John Coates for this mess... therefore the IOC.

To me the only way that this gets sorted is the weight of public opinion. What it will take is someone who will spell out the stupidity of wasting 3+ billion on nothing or spending 3+ billion and getting forever infrastructure in a way that people will understand.

Then ALL of the pollies will listen.

 

[briztoon]

What’s really needed is for current and ex Olympians to come out panning the current proposals, starting with Kieran Perkins, Ian Thorpe and Cathy Freeman.

Get those three voices sh!t canning the current proposals, and watch John Coates backflip and lose his position.

 

[Andyz]

Don't forget that Miles is blaming John Coates for this mess... therefore the IOC.

To me the only way that this gets sorted is the weight of public opinion. What it will take is someone who will spell out the stupidity of wasting 3+ billion on nothing or spending 3+ billion and getting forever infrastructure in a way that people will understand.

Then ALL of the pollies will listen.

Backlash is building...!!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olymp...s/news-story/6fc8a4e3e88738e389b1283f887d2a28

What's the bet Miles goes on a holiday soon?!

 

[BRAB]

Reddit breakdown of the options.

Wow even the sports hating commies on reddit hate the proposal.

This backlash could be scary.

 

[GCS in 11]

Don't forget that Miles is blaming John Coates for this mess... therefore the IOC.

To me the only way that this gets sorted is the weight of public opinion. What it will take is someone who will spell out the stupidity of wasting 3+ billion on nothing or spending 3+ billion and getting forever infrastructure in a way that people will understand.

Then ALL of the pollies will listen.

Yep we need the media to fully realise that this new plan costs even more than a brand new stadium and that they are no cost savings, and to get the broader general public to understand that too.

That plus some strong leadership from someone, and/or a resignation push on Miles, will get this overturned in my view.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

So 2 billion for the stadium itself.
Add on the cost of wider pedestrian prominades over the Icb (wider than what would be required if it was just a giant park- Schriner plan), that would be required.
Additional costs for capability for logistics that are required for the operation of the Stadium.
Connections to transport hubs: Bus terminal and train stations.
There are obviously other costs related to the stadium operations , add them on and do you get 3.4 billion or is the cost of the rest of the park reforestation, wetland area , Tree House etc incorporated in this cost as well.
I hope it's not.

Still, the fact that Schriner has come out and said he would be on board with this project if the price was right is still a positive and a flicker of a flame that can be stoked up.

Ok answering my own post.
Just had a look at Schriners Vic park transformation Plan , obviously had no Stadium in the scope.
The plan had an estimated cost of 141 million.
Like I said is this cost in the 3.4 billion , if so then in reality the associated costs for the Stadium would be around 3.26Billion.
I would love to know the answer.

 

[Black Panther]

What’s really needed is for current and ex Olympians to come out panning the current proposals, starting with Kieran Perkins, Ian Thorpe and Cathy Freeman.

Perkins is an ALP lapdog in a government job, he ain't saying anything. Thorpie might say something and Cathy sadly just ain't that smart

You've had Leisel Jones, John Millman and now Cate Campbell come out against Miles plans