News Gabba Upgrade & Olympics News

[Section 5]

Here's the full interaction, at a press conference, which they included in the article:

Thanks for the full interaction from one interview.
Leaves me none the wiser really.
He is only getting hammered on one issue and his response is rubbish.

On a few of his answers.

A: We’ve spoken about what our focus is. Our focus is on generational infrastructure – road and rail ... making sure that there’s accessibility.

He repeats this a few times with a slightly different slant.
Labor already has plans in place for this, some have already started.
"Rail and road" infrastructure have nothing to do with the Brisbane Olympics $7 billion State/Commonwealth funding agreement.
No money, zilch in the budget for either. Rail and road infostructure are always separate to the actual Olympics funding.
Including road & rail would gobble up the $7 billion quick smart. There would be nothing left for any venue.

Crisafullis response is different but similar to Miles insinuation money will go into cost-of-living relief.
"can't justify building a new stadium when people are doing it tough because of the cost of living"

Q: Do you consider upgrading the Gabba, or rebuilding the Gabba as a new stadium?
A: That’s part of the mix, I’ve said that from day one.

So, he is considering both options. neither good for Lions or cricket

 

[Perrip]

Starting to smell like there's some private money being pulled together in the background, so they can say that they (as in the to-be-government) won't be building a new stadium, but that doesn't mean a priate consortium won't. Would be very LNP of them. Also would explain why that particular journo was hammering the point so hard.

There has been rumours here and there over the last few months about a private/public partnership to build one

 

[Dalions]

A: We’ve spoken about what our focus is. Our focus is on generational infrastructure – road and rail ... making sure that there’s accessibility.

When you think of the Private Bid for the New Stadium at Hamilton.
What does his answer above make you think?

As part of those plans it was mentioned that Private companies will fund the development, the Government was to make sure the Public Transport was sufficient.

 

[Section 5]

I don't have the same confidence some posters have in the LNP changing their mind and okay a new stadium after the election.
That depends a bit on whether he sticks by his recent comment that "no new stadium to be considered" will be included in the terms of reference.
I still can't confirm that comment that i heard though. Hopefully he did not say that, or a new stadium is stuffed.

On the private consortium. Was that what Swan and cricket put to them recently.
It believe it was a mix of private and government.
Either way if private is involved i don't think i will like the price of season membership.

 

[Bucking Beads]

LNP don’t want to do anything to ruin them winning the election. That’s why they’re too scared to make the call.

 

[Section 5]

LNP don’t want to do anything to ruin them winning the election. That’s why they’re too scared to make the call.

The thing is in my opinion he is now coming across as someone that can't make a decision. Struggling with responses.
He has been badly advised. He should have stuck to his decision on waiting for the 100-day review and not deviated.
State nothing is in or out until the review comes back. But he didn't.

All he has really done over the last 18 months, is come on all the news channels at 6pm and bag Labor on something.
Often it was on some big issues but more time than not just minor stuff.
Doing that regularly puts doubt into people's mind that Labor is hopeless at everything.
It was a very good long-time strategy.
Now he has to be front and center as the likely new Premier, has to actually answer questions and give some policy.

Harder questions should be coming his way in the coming weeks on the economy and other big issues.
How will he handle that. We will have to wait and see with 19 days to go.

 

[M Malice]

No way in hell QSAC is going to end up as the Olympic Stadium.

 

[Bucking Beads]

The thing is in my opinion he is now coming across as someone that can't make a decision. Struggling with responses.
He has been badly advised. He should have stuck to his decision on waiting for the 100-day review and not deviated.
State nothing is in or out until the review comes back. But he didn't.

All he has really done over the last 18 months, is come on all the news channels at 6pm and bag Labor on something.
Often it was on some big issues but more time than not just minor stuff.
Doing that regularly puts doubt into people's mind that Labor is hopeless at everything.
It was a very good long-time strategy.
Now he has to be front and center as the likely new Premier, has to actually answer questions and give some policy.

Harder questions should be coming his way in the coming weeks on the economy and other big issues.
How will he handle that. We will have to wait and see with 19 days to go.

Tbh the LNP in Queensland is a mess. They’ve got nobody with leadership capabilities. We desperately need them to take over for a few terms but they’re borderline unelectable.

SOS Campbell Newman ffs lol.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Happy_Neale]

Tbh the LNP in Queensland is a mess. They’ve got nobody with leadership capabilities. We desperately need them to take over for a few terms but they’re borderline unelectable.

SOS Campbell Newman ffs lol.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

Issue is Miles is about as likeable as a punch in the face as well.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Issue is Miles is about as likeable as a punch in the face as well.

It’s a very sad state of affairs. Options are both completely stuffed. A real confident leader would have the confidence to build a stadium.

 

[dlanod]

they’re borderline unelectable.

SOS Campbell Newman ffs lol.

That might be the one way to take them from borderline unelectable (which is still electable - clear what they're aiming for!) to completely unelectable.

 

[Gadzorks]

Here's the full interaction, at a press conference, which they included in the article:

....we've spoken about no new stadiums.

I've spoken about winning the lotto, becoming ceo of the Lions, going on a diet, running a pb half marathon. Speaking about something is not at all related to the end action.

Love it.

 

[BigCat2]

I don't have the same confidence some posters have in the LNP changing their mind and okay a new stadium after the election.
That depends a bit on whether he sticks by his recent comment that "no new stadium to be considered" will be included in the terms of reference.
I still can't confirm that comment that i heard though. Hopefully he did not say that, or a new stadium is stuffed.

On the private consortium. Was that what Swan and cricket put to them recently.
It believe it was a mix of private and government.
Either way if private is involved i don't think i will like the price of season membership.

Don't know.about confidence. Just know that if Miles re-elected it'll be QSAC which is the worst possible scenario. Anything from there is an improvement.

 

[Section 5]

Don't know.about confidence. Just know that if Miles re-elected it'll be QSAC which is the worst possible scenario. Anything from there is an improvement.

No necessarily if you are a Lions executive, or Lions season member.

A rebuild means 6 years with no home ground to play on.

A refurbished Gabba will have large chunks of the Gabba not used for long periods of time.
Remember the AFL will require x number of seats? put aside for opposition supporters.
Also, when the BCG members stand comes down, those members will be offered seats for sure
Season members may struggle to get seats and of course the capacity reduced.
Will be hard to fit 3 game members & other fans inside.

Victoria Park (huge preference) & QSAC (crap venue): Everything will be fine for the Lions and Cricket up until the Olympics.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Why do people think Crisafulli will go back on everything he's said in this campaign regarding the stadium, whereas Miles won't? Do people think that the LNP can be better relied on to say one thing during the campaign and do something completely different once in office? Cool, they sound great.

I wonder what other promises and assurances have they made that we can look forward to them ignoring

 

[Walshawk]

Why do people think Crisafulli will go back on everything he's said in this campaign regarding the stadium, whereas Miles won't? Do people think that the LNP can be better relied on to say one thing during the campaign and do something completely different once in office? Cool, they sound great.

I wonder what other promises and assurances have they made that we can look forward to them ignoring

Let’s face it. Nobody has any idea what will happen. And we won’t know for sure until somebody puts a shovel into the ground.

 

[Section 5]

I am not sure what Crisafulli will do in office as Premier and that includes the stadium issue.

I mentioned in post 5299 that i sent a detailed email to my local LNP member Tim Mander.
I was not going to bother sending one to Steven Miles as the polls had Labor way behind at that stage.
Decided what the hell, may as well send him one too.
It contained the same information i sent to Tim Mander on 2/10/24 but a different lead into the actual proposal.

I suggested a change of mind may help him retain some seats in Brisbane and who knows it may give them a slight chance of winning the election even though it is a long shot at this stage.
Received the auto standard reply. Only mentioning a response will be provided but no time frame as he gets lots of correspondence.
I also sent one to Greg Swan on Monday 7/10/24 but no reply from him to date.
Only 16 days till the State election.

 

[notliondown]

Why do people think Crisafulli will go back on everything he's said in this campaign regarding the stadium, whereas Miles won't? Do people think that the LNP can be better relied on to say one thing during the campaign and do something completely different once in office? Cool, they sound great.

I wonder what other promises and assurances have they made that we can look forward to them ignoring

The scary part of Crisafulli who is now coming under some actual media scrutiny is that he looks like a 1 trick pony. Scratch the surface or put him under the blow torch and apart from trotting out well rehearsed lines and numbers it really looks like he doesn't have a clue.

I watched him at the start of his career and he never struck me that way... now it's clear like every other politician that he is entirely poll driven on every subject.

I hoped he was just bluffing his way across the line with the stadium thing... now I have little confidence in him to actually break away from what ever the pollsters tell him even after the election.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

The scary part of Crisafulli who is now coming under some actual media scrutiny is that he looks like a 1 trick pony. Scratch the surface or put him under the blow torch and apart from trotting out well rehearsed lines and numbers it really looks like he doesn't have a clue.

I watched him at the start of his career and he never struck me that way... now it's clear like every other politician that he is entirely poll driven on every subject.

I hoped he was just bluffing his way across the line with the stadium thing... now I have little confidence in him to actually break away from what ever the pollsters tell him even after the election.

I'd urge anyone considering taking a punt on him reversing his position on the stadium to have a close look at his record on other issues first. Some of that stuff isn't getting much of a spotlight at the moment

 

[notliondown]

I'd urge anyone considering taking a punt on him reversing his position on the stadium to have a close look at his record on other issues first. Some of that stuff isn't getting much of a spotlight at the moment

Such as?

He's going to have a hard enough time reigning in the right wing extremists who want to turn Qld into an even closer version of Florida with their Trump loving BS as you can see in the media recently. There will be a lot of things that happen regardless of his personal wishes... that's party politics.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Such as?

I'm not going to turn this thread on the main Lions board into a political discussion

 

[notliondown]

I'm not going to turn this thread on the main Lions board into a political discussion

I'm sorry if you took my post that way... that's not what I intended... I was merely making the point that he is going to have a hard time backing up the integrity of ANYTHING that he says given his own party is already in revolt before they win.

I would still - and I'm sure many others too without the need to get "political" - like to know why you said what you said.

This whole thread largely hangs on the trust/integrity/opinions/decisions of the politicians. In fact you could argue this whole thread revolves around politics - heavily.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

I'm sorry if you took my post that way... that's not what I intended... I was merely making the point that he is going to have a hard time backing up the integrity of ANYTHING that he says given his own party is already in revolt before they win.

I would still - and I'm sure many others too without the need to get "political" - like to know why you said what you said.

This whole thread largely hangs on the trust/integrity/opinions/decisions of the politicians. In fact you could argue this whole thread revolves around politics - heavily.

I'm not going to go into this any further because that's not what topics on the main board are for. This thread is political enough as it is and I don't want to be responsible for a mess that the mods would need to clean up.

 

[Section 5]

The article heading below "Let's dump the Olympics" is very misleading as that is not what it's all about. Just someone's comment.

'Let's dump the Olympics': Games host cities follow a predictable pattern, starting with excitement. Brisbane is at 'disillusionment'

There's a predictable pattern an Olympics host city goes through in the lead-up to holding the biggest sporting event on earth. First there's excitement, then there's disillusionment — that's arguably where Brisbane is now.

www.abc.net.au

There's a predictable pattern an Olympics host city goes through in the lead-up to holding the biggest sporting event on earth, according to economist John Quiggin.

First there's excitement. Your city has been chosen to be the focus of a global audience (never mind that you were the only bidder).

Then there's "disillusionment" — that's arguably where Brisbane is now.

When all is said and done, there's the third phase Olympic Games host cities go through: most people have a good time.

 

[notliondown]

The article heading below "Let's dump the Olympics" is very misleading as that is not what it's all about. Just someone's comment.

'Let's dump the Olympics': Games host cities follow a predictable pattern, starting with excitement. Brisbane is at 'disillusionment'

There's a predictable pattern an Olympics host city goes through in the lead-up to holding the biggest sporting event on earth. First there's excitement, then there's disillusionment — that's arguably where Brisbane is now.

www.abc.net.au

There's a predictable pattern an Olympics host city goes through in the lead-up to holding the biggest sporting event on earth, according to economist John Quiggin.

First there's excitement. Your city has been chosen to be the focus of a global audience (never mind that you were the only bidder).

Then there's "disillusionment" — that's arguably where Brisbane is now.

When all is said and done, there's the third phase Olympic Games host cities go through: most people have a good time.

Surely that coincides with the decision to just get on with it? The reconciling of we might as well make the most of it?

It's the indecision and debate that's really the cause of the angst and unease at the moment isn't it? It's just a political football and a stinking mess right now.

Once a leader actually buckles down, talks with authority and gets on with the job the public will follow. When commitments are actually made people will pretty much ignore the process until the games themselves actually roll around.