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My brain had an image of the pitch being perpetually somewhere between two inches and a foot above the surrounding grass, so my first thought was "that's one way to piss off both cricket and the AFL."
I am hoping that they do something similar to Optus Stadium where the first row of seating is a metre or so higher than the playing surface. Would make viewing so much better for the people right on the boundary.
 
I saw 'raised pitch' and my obviously not fully firing yet brain had an image of two rectangles of Gabba turf sinking into the ground and moving to the sides while a 'permanent' pitch was raised into place for the cricket game...
Could build a totally retractable pitch like Tottenham for $2 billion AUD.

Grass for cricket / footy on one side. And an ice rink on the other for Disney on Ice performances.

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I am hoping that they do something similar to Optus Stadium where the first row of seating is a metre or so higher than the playing surface. Would make viewing so much better for the people right on the boundary.
That's how Giants Stadium is set and it's great. Not a bad seat in the house, and doubly so with the interior open concourse.
 

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A little strange there is a fair bit of opposition to spending $2.7 billion for The Gabba funded by the Qld. Government.
But not for the $2.5 billion Brisbane Arena with seating for around 17K funded by the Federal Government.
Below taken from Governments Budgets overview of "The Big Build" being part of the budget.
A record $89 billion a 4-year capital program.

Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games​

The 2023–24 Budget continues to support preparations for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

The government is providing additional funding of $100.3 million over 4 years and $13.6 million per year ongoing for Brisbane 2032 activities. The Brisbane 2032 Coordination Office will oversee key aspects of Games preparations. This includes planning and designing infrastructure like venues and athlete villages, as well as transport, environment, legacy, First Nations and security. The Coordination Office will also work closely with the Organising Committee for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games to ensure government meets its contractual commitments and targets with the International Olympic Committee.

A further $7.5 million over 4 years is provided for the Queensland Police Service to support its specialist security advisor role.

The 2023–24 Budget has provisions for total capital expenditure for Brisbane 2032 venues infrastructure of $7.1 billion over 10 years. This venues infrastructure program is jointly funded by the Queensland and Australian Governments to support the hosting of Brisbane 2032. The allocation of funding for specific venues projects will be subject to government investment decisions following completion of project assessment.

The venues infrastructure program comprises the Brisbane Arena ($2.5 billion), the Gabba Redevelopment ($2.7 billion) and 16 new or upgraded venues under the Minor Venues Program ($1.9 billion). Total forecast expenditure for the venues infrastructure program over 4 years to 2026-27 is $1.9 billion.

A further $154.7 million is provided over 4 years from 2024–25 for Economic Development Queensland to bring forward delivery of public infrastructure to facilitate the development of services and land for the Brisbane Athlete Village.

The 2023–24 Budget also includes $44 million as the state’s contribution to the University of Queensland’s proposed Paralympic Centre of Excellence as part of the Brisbane 2032 Legacy Plan.

Paralympic Centre of Excellence

The Paralympic Centre of Excellence at the University of Queensland is a jointly funded project with the Queensland Government contributing up to $44 million in budget funding to help construct the world-leading facility.
The University has commenced discussions with the Australian Government regarding funding opportunities for the $132 million centre which will set a new benchmark for inclusion and elite paralympic sport.
The Paralympic Centre of Excellence, to be based at the St Lucia campus, will help participation and training for para-athletes in the lead up to the 2032 Games.
The Queensland Government’s support of the facility provides a possible long-term home for Paralympics Australia and is an example of the legacy the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games provides.
The funding will help create an international standard sports venue, a wheelchair and prosthetics workshop, dedicated testing facilities and accessibility to student workforce and education.
It will cater for 20 out of 23 Paralympic sports and employ 22 fulltime staff who will have the opportunity to combine leading research with sport technology and rehabilitation facilities.
Construction is expected to begin in 2025–26 and be completed in 2027–28.
 
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Griffith Uni, Mount Gravatt Campus has over 1000 car spaces, the largest car park, down near the aquatic centre is between 400 and 500 spaces alone. The one next to the bus station has approximately 200. And I'm not even including the 200 odd car parks down near the old student accommodation. So 1200 car parks if some people don't mind a walk up the hill.

However the campus is being shut down. I don't remember the end date, but I'm sure it's before 2030.


Griffith Uni, Nathan Campus has well over 1000 car parks as well, considering the whole back half of the ring road has parking on both sides. There is considerable scope to extend the largest car park that is closest to the back of the cemetery and near the secondary athletics track. There is already a bush track from the car park to the secondary athletics track.
I don't know the area around QSAC at all really.
I took the "Park & Ride" numbers from translink.
Translink don't list either as providing park spaces so i assumed it was student/staff parking only. They did mention QSAC having 680 spaces.
Can you confirm that those spaces you mentioned were around when the Broncos and concerts took place?
Hopefully they were not as that would help parking wise. If they were then it did not help the situation.
 
I don't know the area around QSAC at all really.
I took the "Park & Ride" numbers from translink.
Translink don't list either as providing park spaces so i assumed it was student/staff parking only. They did mention QSAC having 680 spaces.
Can you confirm that those spaces you mentioned were around when the Broncos and concerts took place?
Hopefully they were not as that would help parking wise. If they were then it did not help the situation.
Of course the Uni car parks are for students and staff.

But if the QLD government wanted to make things happen, I’m sure they’d find a way.

The Uni’s have been around for decades. I’m sure uni staff and students have taken advantage of the parking to use the “free parking” next to the busway to attend events.
 
A little strange there is a fair bit of opposition to spending $2.7 billion for The Gabba funded by the Qld. Government.
But not for the $2.5 billion Brisbane Arena with seating for around 17K funded by the Federal Government.
Below taken from Governments Budgets overview of "The Big Build" being part of the budget.
A record $89 billion a 4-year capital program.

Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games​

The 2023–24 Budget continues to support preparations for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

The government is providing additional funding of $100.3 million over 4 years and $13.6 million per year ongoing for Brisbane 2032 activities. The Brisbane 2032 Coordination Office will oversee key aspects of Games preparations. This includes planning and designing infrastructure like venues and athlete villages, as well as transport, environment, legacy, First Nations and security. The Coordination Office will also work closely with the Organising Committee for the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games to ensure government meets its contractual commitments and targets with the International Olympic Committee.

A further $7.5 million over 4 years is provided for the Queensland Police Service to support its specialist security advisor role.

The 2023–24 Budget has provisions for total capital expenditure for Brisbane 2032 venues infrastructure of $7.1 billion over 10 years. This venues infrastructure program is jointly funded by the Queensland and Australian Governments to support the hosting of Brisbane 2032. The allocation of funding for specific venues projects will be subject to government investment decisions following completion of project assessment.

The venues infrastructure program comprises the Brisbane Arena ($2.5 billion), the Gabba Redevelopment ($2.7 billion) and 16 new or upgraded venues under the Minor Venues Program ($1.9 billion). Total forecast expenditure for the venues infrastructure program over 4 years to 2026-27 is $1.9 billion.

A further $154.7 million is provided over 4 years from 2024–25 for Economic Development Queensland to bring forward delivery of public infrastructure to facilitate the development of services and land for the Brisbane Athlete Village.

The 2023–24 Budget also includes $44 million as the state’s contribution to the University of Queensland’s proposed Paralympic Centre of Excellence as part of the Brisbane 2032 Legacy Plan.

Paralympic Centre of Excellence

The Paralympic Centre of Excellence at the University of Queensland is a jointly funded project with the Queensland Government contributing up to $44 million in budget funding to help construct the world-leading facility.
The University has commenced discussions with the Australian Government regarding funding opportunities for the $132 million centre which will set a new benchmark for inclusion and elite paralympic sport.
The Paralympic Centre of Excellence, to be based at the St Lucia campus, will help participation and training for para-athletes in the lead up to the 2032 Games.
The Queensland Government’s support of the facility provides a possible long-term home for Paralympics Australia and is an example of the legacy the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games provides.
The funding will help create an international standard sports venue, a wheelchair and prosthetics workshop, dedicated testing facilities and accessibility to student workforce and education.
It will cater for 20 out of 23 Paralympic sports and employ 22 fulltime staff who will have the opportunity to combine leading research with sport technology and rehabilitation facilities.
Construction is expected to begin in 2025–26 and be completed in 2027–28.
What am I missing? Why is the cost of the Brisbane Arena and the new Gabba so similar particularly when you consider the Gabba also involves a lengthy demolition of a large stadium.
 
A behind the scenes look at lobbying for the Brisbane Arena project. link below

Despite the Commonwealth funding up to $2.5 billion, the arena will remain state property.

The consortium could seek a long-term operating lease, although those seeking arena work are awaiting state and federal market-sounding parameters.

 
What am I missing? Why is the cost of the Brisbane Arena and the new Gabba so similar particularly when you consider the Gabba also involves a lengthy demolition of a large stadium.
Pretty sure Roma street buildings need to be demolished for the Brisbane arena, and then they are building on top of an active rail line.
 
Great news from Greg Swann today >
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BRISBANE is down to two options and could know within the next month where it will play during the Gabba's four-year redevelopment.

The Lions will play games at either its new training and administration base at Springfield or an upgraded RNA Showgrounds in the centre of the city, CEO Greg Swann said on Friday.

Lions narrow search to two as decision on home venue looms

RNA RNA RNA RNA


 
Great news from Greg Swann today >
________________________________________

BRISBANE is down to two options and could know within the next month where it will play during the Gabba's four-year redevelopment.

The Lions will play games at either its new training and administration base at Springfield or an upgraded RNA Showgrounds in the centre of the city, CEO Greg Swann said on Friday.

Lions narrow search to two as decision on home venue looms

RNA RNA RNA RNA
About 2 months ago they previously mentioned a decision would be coming in the next 2 weeks.

If either of those options take place it goes against the Qld. Governments "major assets will stay public owned" criteria.
The RNA would be better for fans and Springfield better for the Lions.

I have previously stated a decision needs to be made urgently in order for the works to be completed in time.
Let's hope it is actually made in the next two weeks and any tender process starts immediately.
 

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About 2 months ago they previously mentioned a decision would be coming in the next 2 weeks.

If either of those options take place it goes against the Qld. Governments "major assets will stay public owned" criteria.
The RNA would be better for fans and Springfield better for the Lions.

I have previously stated a decision needs to be made urgently in order for the works to be completed in time.
Let's hope it is actually made in the next two weeks and any tender process starts immediately.
Springfield would require major infrastructure improvements to both public mass transit and existing road networks, as well as significant infrastructure upgrades to the Lions ground.
 
About 2 months ago they previously mentioned a decision would be coming in the next 2 weeks.

If either of those options take place it goes against the Qld. Governments "major assets will stay public owned" criteria.
The RNA would be better for fans and Springfield better for the Lions.

I have previously stated a decision needs to be made urgently in order for the works to be completed in time.
Let's hope it is actually made in the next two weeks and any tender process starts immediately.
The optimist in my hoping the Government is trying to wring as much money out of the RNA as possible. After all they (the RNA) will reap the rewards of any upgrades for years to come - they really should be putting a good deal of money in.
 
As a Platinum member I hope and expect the club will give priority to the longest serving members with the inevitable attendance squeeze at the RNA or Springfield.

RNA really is far and away the best option of the 2, it will be chaos getting 20,000 people in and out of BHA.
I live 2-3 klms from RNA. As a platinum member that would be handy for me ;)
 
The optimist in my hoping the Government is trying to wring as much money out of the RNA as possible. After all they (the RNA) will reap the rewards of any upgrades for years to come - they really should be putting a good deal of money in.
The Government would cover all the costs of Showjumping events as that was put forward in the original plan.

Not sure the RNA is swamped with cash if any to put much towards any upgrade for AFL and possibly cricket.
Most likely the RNA would have to go into debt. It could be just a token amount just to satisfy peoples reaction.
Any business case to suggest the RNA can fund the added expense.
The Lions would pay game day costs just like they do at the Gabba but that would be only for around 4 years.
If the larger Cricket games ended up also at the RNA that would help but also only for 4 or so years.

The Government would be better putting funds into the RNA for cricket rather than any more into Alan Border Field.
The same could be said for the AFL and Springfield.

Politics will come into play. Next State election will be around October 2024.
Lots of people follow cricket plus the Lions membership just hit 53K plus the normal followers of the game.
Then you have certain community groups opposition to staging the Olympics.
 
Is the Queensland Government subsidising the lost Lions income from having such a reduction in attendance numbers for the 4 years away from the Gabba? Presumably there will be a large drop in sponsors boxes as well as general attendance, and also a big drop in member numbers as they couldn't be guaranteed a seat with the reduced seating. Even if these things are subsidised it will have a significant long term impact on the Lions financial situation as it will take years to get back lost members and sponsors. Unfortunately I fear we are going to be the big losers out of the Olympics.
 

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