News Gabba Upgrade & Olympics News

[trikster]

All 81 pages are here if anyone is really bored https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportsen/RB000224/toc_pdf/Australia’spreparednesstohostCommonwealth,OlympicandParalympicGames.pdf

 

[Section 5]

$1.5 Billion Gabba Heart Precinct Development Set to Transform Woolloongabba

A masterplan development application has been submitted for a $1.5 billion development known as 'Gabba Heart Precinct which consists of four towers.

brisbanedevelopment.com

Interesting article and looks like lots of construction in the Wooloongabba area.

What i found more interesting was the link to "The Northshore Quandary" at Hamilton.
The Games Athlete Village sites but are questioning the lack of transport options, with eventually 24,500 extra people in the area.
A few rail options were given.
The cheapest being a 1.4km rail extension from Doomben to a new station Northshore.
Apparently, no residential land resumptions will be needed. A quick google maps check and they may be correct.

Another option would be extremely expensive but would benefit Brisbane in the long term.

 

[M Malice]

This popped up on my youtube recommendations earlier in the week, nothing that we don't already know but all in 8 minutes and pretty well put together. About the whole Gabba precinct not just the stadium itself.

 

[Section 5]

All 81 pages are here if anyone is really bored https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportsen/RB000224/toc_pdf/Australia’spreparednesstohostCommonwealth,OlympicandParalympicGames.pdf

Thanks trikster, i am bored with the PF still a week away so i had a look.
Another Federal Senate committee. A waste of public money in a lot of cases including this one.

I am not sure why they have mentioned The Gabba at all.
The federal government have already opted out of the Gabba funding.
The federal government is fully funding the $2.5 billion Roma Street Olympic site and take on that risk of construction blowouts.
The Federal Government chose that option rather than go 50% with The Gabba and 50% with Roma Street.
I noticed no recommendations on that $2.5 billion proposal.

Recommendations 1,2 & 4 has nothing to do with the Olympics.
The committee recommends that the Australian Government takes on a facilitation and coordination role in order to salvage the 2026 Commonwealth Games being held in Australia. Before the end of 2023, the Australian Government should:

Number 3: About future funding model (Okay look at that)
Number 5: Is about The Gabba. (as mentioned above now taken out of federal hands by themselves)
Number 6: Demolition of school. (it is not being demolished but then go on to say something needed closer than Coorparoo. Also, a little about the warmup track at Raymond Park. But no houses will be resumed. Mentions other known heritage listed properties)
Number 7: Move the Canoe event to Penrith.

Thats it
Quite a lot of the remaining 65 pages is most likely a cut and paste from other senate enquiries.
Things like witness, and guideline for members to follow.
A few pages on the Olympics trying to justify their recommendations.
The vast majority of pages are on the cancelled commonwealth Games.

 

[HereIam86]

Brisbane's Southern CBD: Gov Unveils Massive Zone for Gabba Priority Development Area

In a significant move to bolster urban development, the Palaszczuk Administration has rolled out an ambitious plan for Woolloongabba, encompassing a sprawling 106 hectares.

brisbanedevelopment.com

 

[Dalions]

Brisbane's Southern CBD: Gov Unveils Massive Zone for Gabba Priority Development Area

In a significant move to bolster urban development, the Palaszczuk Administration has rolled out an ambitious plan for Woolloongabba, encompassing a sprawling 106 hectares.

brisbanedevelopment.com

I have to say that if we end up with a stadium looking like this, it just
Looks awesome.

 

[BuntonRules]

I have to say that if we end up with a stadium looking like this, it just
Looks awesome.
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Probably more like what you see in a Macca's advert, and the reality

 

[CarterS]

Is a joke that we will be without the Gabba for as long as will be. 4 or 5 seasons?

 

[M Malice]

Is a joke that we will be without the Gabba for as long as will be. 4 or 5 seasons?

4 seasons... 2026-29, then we can play on it for the 2030-31 seasons and it will be out of action for the Olympics for a chunk of the 2032 season although I have seen talk that we will play a large percentage of our away games in a stretch during the Olympic window.

 

[CarterS]

Still with no alternative plan in place. Ridiculous. Governments fault not clubs.

 

[BRAB]

Still with no alternative plan in place. Ridiculous. Governments fault not clubs.

I think the longer it drags on the more likely it is that we won’t have a good option.

 

[CarterS]

I think the longer it drags on the more likely it is that we won’t have a good option.

Yep it’ll be some piecemeal stuff with a few games here, there a couple in North Queensland, etc.

 

[Thomasno]

4 seasons... 2026-29, then we can play on it for the 2030-31 seasons and it will be out of action for the Olympics for a chunk of the 2032 season although I have seen talk that we will play a large percentage of our away games in a stretch during the Olympic window.

We’ll be out of there for the entire 2032 season most likely. There’ll be a hell of a lot of prep to rip up all the turf and make it an athletics track, and then it’ll take time to re-lay the turf after as well.

 

[M Malice]

We’ll be out of there for the entire 2032 season most likely. There’ll be a hell of a lot of prep to rip up all the turf and make it an athletics track, and then it’ll take time to re-lay the turf after as well.

Fair to middling chance I could have departed this mortal coil by then and wont have to worry about that.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Fair to middling chance I could have departed this mortal coil by then and wont have to worry about that.

 

[dlanod]

Fair to middling chance I could have departed this mortal coil by then and wont have to worry about that.

We better have won a premiership before then!

 

[M Malice]

We better have won a few premierships before then!

EFA.

 

[dlanod]

EFA.

No need to get greedy!

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

The reality is you never know when the next chance is going to come. My Collingwood-supporting cousin lived for 14 years and never saw a grand final win in the five appearances. Think of all the generations of Saints supporters that came and went without a premiership.

 

[briztoon]

Is a joke that we will be without the Gabba for as long as will be. 4 or 5 seasons?

Why is it a joke?

Do you believe they can demolish and build it faster?

Or that the Olympic stadium should be elsewhere?

What due believe the current Gabba’s life span is?

At some point it will need to be demolished and a new stadium built. So at some point we will be without a home.

We have seen that we already need a larger stadium for finals attendances.

 

[briztoon]

We’ll be out of there for the entire 2032 season most likely. There’ll be a hell of a lot of prep to rip up all the turf and make it an athletics track, and then it’ll take time to re-lay the turf after as well.

This.

People tend to forget that the same stadium is used for the Para Olympics afterwards.

And there is usually a test event before the actual olympics.

 

[Thomasno]

Why is it a joke?

Do you believe they can demolish and build it faster?

Or that the Olympic stadium should be elsewhere?

What due believe the current Gabba’s life span is?

At some point it will need to be demolished and a new stadium built. So at some point we will be without a home.

We have seen that we already need a larger stadium for finals attendances.

Yup, there was talk starting already about rebuilding the Gabba years before the Olympics were confirmed, it was always going to happen at some point

 

[Viceregal]

Dos that mean there will be a 3-5 year period where we won't have an MCG when that needs to be rebuilt (re the stadia have lifespans references) ... I wonder if they will insist the grannies go to Docklands or play at the home of the higher remaining seed?

 

[CarterS]

Why is it a joke?

Do you believe they can demolish and build it faster?

Or that the Olympic stadium should be elsewhere?

What due believe the current Gabba’s life span is?

At some point it will need to be demolished and a new stadium built. So at some point we will be without a home.

We have seen that we already need a larger stadium for finals attendances.

As has been reported, the cost will make it the 3rd most expensive stadium in the world, well more than other Aussie stadiums like Optus. The senate committee asked them to urgently reconsider not knocking it down. It looks good in the renders but not some of the out of this world stuff you see in stadiums like the new Raiders stadium in Vegas.

My other main issue is that the time line, I'm no expert but 4 years seems like too long to me.

And regarding the alternative arrangements, for both AFL and Cricket, it just reeks of flying by the seat of their pants and no forward planning.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Dos that mean there will be a 3-5 year period where we won't have an MCG when that needs to be rebuilt (re the stadia have lifespans references) ... I wonder if they will insist the grannies go to Docklands or play at the home of the higher remaining seed?

It's been a long time since I've been to the G, but from my visit I'm surprised to hold the opinion that it's slightly overrated as a ground and maybe a little tired. Don't get me wrong, considering it's capacity it's a great place to watch footy from - I was nearly as far back as you can be and still had a great view. But I found the concourse areas ( at least where I was) small and claustrophobic, the seating too close together inside.

What it's got going for it, is it's easy to get in and out of and has good accessibility (ramps, etc).

I don't know enough about the structural elements, but when the Pies supporters were going off at the end, the stand was shaking and moving. I do know a couple of guys who are structural engineers - I should ask them about that. One of them was even involved in building the southern stand at the Gabba.