Clubs surely plan their lists 3-4 years in advance. Decisions are made depending on who they’ve got coming through academies etc.
You can’t make these decisions with 12 months notice.
You can’t make these decisions with 12 months notice.
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I'll hazard a guess & say it's just a negotiating tactic. Also if anyone's going to try to make hay while the sunshine's with all this, it'll be the Gold Coast Suns. Bet they're being difficult even when they're playing at the hand me down oval they basically inherited from us.
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no point melting about anything until changes are actually announced. from what is reported in the age, the floated suggestions to bid changes seem to be those made by victorian clubs who would want to strip back the academies as much as possible. the only thing hinting at the afl's intention is the line about wanting clubs to pay with a pick closer to where the bid comes. what that looks like who knows
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Cmon it's just a short 4 hour drive up the bruce.
Pick 3, Compensation pick North.
Pick 19, Compensation pick Adelaide.
Pick 20, Compensation pick St Kilda.
Pick 21, Priority Pick North Melbourne.
Next year’s first round already has two end of first round Priority Picks added to it. And potentially just as many father son and academy could be selected in the first round next year.
You might be right. Surely the answer to potentially ‘locking out 40k members’ is not to lock out ALL of your members by playing interstate, regardless of the loss of home ground advantage. This makes no sense.
Sole wipe numbers being thrown around. Your average crowds were 32k in a GF season. So, compared to now, only 12k more would be locked out.
A 20k RNA would be a great result. Although, unless the EKKA is moved to October, you might end up playing finals @ Metricon.
What, a monster truck rally and a caravan show? Does that require prime inner city land next to a train station?
I didn't say "bugger the cost", that's a misrepresentation. My point is that if we're factoring in costs, the benefits should be factored in too for a full cost-benefit analysis. It's not a fair comparison if you compare all costs and don't factor in all benefits.
Few years back when I went to a show at BEC.
Railway lines and parking lots can be upgraded for greater capacity. They don't have to sit there in their current state in perpetuity. We can spend $2.7 billion (minimum) on a new stadium but we can't spend a fraction of that duplicating a railway line and extending a parking lot?
No, it affects 1000 people per day. Multiply that by the length of the school year and you have well over 200 000 journeys being disrupted annually, all of which are done by immediate locals who now have to travel further. The Ekka is visited by a lot of people who are not immediate locals and will be travelling anyway. One longer rail journey won't kill them.
And that means we should be cool with more public money being used to benefit groups that make private profit? Why don't we just build BHP a new headquarters too, I'm sure they could use it.
I gave you respect and didn't talk down to you. Sad to see you couldn't respond in kind, but maybe that's just your way.
And yes, I care about a school moving. I used to walk and ride my bike to primary school. I'd greet my neighbours each moening and learn a little self-reliance at a young age. It felt like an experience of community and belonging. And it pains me to see how kids don't do that anymore due to helicopter parenting and an overwhelming reliance on cars. They're all chauffeured in now by their parents. And that will be what happens to most of these kids when they're punted out to Coorparoo.
Supervised crossings exist. Bridges exist. Children have to learn sometime about how to cross roads safely. Traffic calming measures can be put in. And bike lanes. I don't see any sense in expelling children from busy areas. They manage to do just fine in busy areas in most major cities around the world.
The government does this literally all the time. Poor attempt at a zinger.
This has been on the cards for months, when we did the tour of MVO early in the season, our guide mentioned it as a possibility.
For me, if a home game is sold interstate I am next to no chance of attending in any case. So it makes no real difference to me if it's sold to Melbourne or Perth as long the club is getting the best possible deal to ensure it continues to prosper. I would lean more towards Melbourne in the interests of our Melbourne membership but if Perth provides a deal too good to ignore, surely we'd be foolish not to at least consider it.
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Sorry JB - are you actually saying that you would like to put traffic calming and bike lanes around the Gabba?
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My preference was always to get the lump sum $$ and secure club financially long term because I think the other local options are splitting hairs re the least worst option. They’re all going to be terrible.
A combination of selling games, Springfield and Metricon depending on the opponent and some considered fixturing by the afl makes the most sense.
A combination of selling games, Springfield and Metricon depending on the opponent and some considered fixturing by the afl makes the most sense.
Perfect storm coming!
2026-2029 no gabba
2026-2029 selling up to 2 games a year
2025 onwards Neale / Daniher / Linc / Charlie will be basically done or well past prime
2025 onwards drastically different rules for our academy meaning we pay a lot more in picks
On our next venue - Good that RNA is firming. it seems to be the ground that would have us lose the fewest members. You would think it would be a cauldron too - absolutely full, no cricket club members who are less rabid, and fewer oppo supporters getting tickets / bothering to come
On selling games - i hope we prioritise Melbourne games. It could actually mean we grow members in Melbourne. It's not just about the cheque you get from the WA govt but longer term focus so Melbourne makes a lot more sense. West Coast won't be hopeless by then too. From an on-field point of view any game where you are not handing the opposition an advantage, i don't suppose we could do a Darwin game if that's not too crowded already?
We really do have 2 more years to win a flag, but you would hope the club is not talking in those terms (doubt they would be) as it would just be more pressure. Been right in contention now for 5 years. 2023 might end up being the one that got away. Second quarter 5 goals to 1 at one point it felt like we were running away with it, i really thought this is happening. I'll stop now too painful.
2026-2029 no gabba
2026-2029 selling up to 2 games a year
2025 onwards Neale / Daniher / Linc / Charlie will be basically done or well past prime
2025 onwards drastically different rules for our academy meaning we pay a lot more in picks
On our next venue - Good that RNA is firming. it seems to be the ground that would have us lose the fewest members. You would think it would be a cauldron too - absolutely full, no cricket club members who are less rabid, and fewer oppo supporters getting tickets / bothering to come
On selling games - i hope we prioritise Melbourne games. It could actually mean we grow members in Melbourne. It's not just about the cheque you get from the WA govt but longer term focus so Melbourne makes a lot more sense. West Coast won't be hopeless by then too. From an on-field point of view any game where you are not handing the opposition an advantage, i don't suppose we could do a Darwin game if that's not too crowded already?
We really do have 2 more years to win a flag, but you would hope the club is not talking in those terms (doubt they would be) as it would just be more pressure. Been right in contention now for 5 years. 2023 might end up being the one that got away. Second quarter 5 goals to 1 at one point it felt like we were running away with it, i really thought this is happening. I'll stop now too painful.
We will have a dominant midfield for the next 10 years and that is where you win games. We will need to plug holes but if you have a midfield in place you should be fine.
i prefer your version of events to mine!
10 years is too long to predict anything in my view. But certainly over the next 5 years we should have a good midfield with ashcroft x 2, fletcher, mccluggage, bailey, dunkley the nucleus, and dev, rayner, sharp, tunstill some chance.
challenge could be if we drop out of contention and our cap is tight we start to get picked off a bit. Thankfully we have some who should be more loyal than most with plenty of queenslanders in there, Bailey from the NT, dunks long term contract, clugga hopefully about to do the same. also think Rayner comes across as pretty loyal.
It's bad enough having to play away there once a year trying to scrape together a win against Freo.
A combination of Carrara, Melbourne & Springfield with upgraded seating/parking is the logical option imo, especially while the premiership window should still be ajar.
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id prefer we sell no home games to the acl graveyard at carrara
Everyone knows Voss Oval is an option pending an upgrade, and has been for years. Melbourne's head and shoulders the better option for a handful of home games over Perth, we want to get better on the G, thousands of members down south crying out for more games there, etc.. Could even be a great opportunity to rust on a few more thousand down there if we were to play 8 games a year there for the 4.
The QLD government is not likely to spend $50m+ upgrading RSA (or a single cent on MVO) if you are going to sell games interstate. This talk is all positioning for a better Reno @ RSA. It will be 44 home games in Queensland for sure. As it should be.
Anyway even 50k @ MCG when half are MCC or AFL members, or 40k @ Marvel is not going to earn you much if any more than 20k at RSA. And flying to Perth for home games is the last thing any club would consider - especially from Brisbane.
Anyway even 50k @ MCG when half are MCC or AFL members, or 40k @ Marvel is not going to earn you much if any more than 20k at RSA. And flying to Perth for home games is the last thing any club would consider - especially from Brisbane.
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I would be shocked if Perth hosts any home games for us..for me the MCG or Marvel for the blockbuster games that will need seating for 40K or more.... every other game to be at RNA or Springfield...dont like the option of playing at Heritage at all and dont expect the fans to support games there either.
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