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[M Malice]

There are bike lanes in Stanley Street at the moment all the way from Annerley road up to the Main Street intersection... in fact if I recall the draft proposal correctly they are to be incorporated into the Gabba rebuild/wider Gabba Precinct development anyway.

I think the school discussion is now irrelevant, the school is going from it's current location.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Hey guys, any reason there is not more talk of Metricon? Seems you guys arent keen on this option but from the outside it appears the obvious choice.

Could see Lions splitting home games between RNA and Metricon depending on who they're playing. Big Melbourne sides at Metricon and smaller ones plus interstate teams at RNA. Similar to how the Blues and Cats split home games.

Lions would just lose to much money playing the big sides at RNA due to capacity constraints. Dont see Springfield being an option either due to similar capacity issues plus ground accessability potentially being a nightmare.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Yep.

You should stand for the Greens at the next election with that as part of your platform and see how that goes

 

[Billy ray]

Hey guys, any reason there is not more talk of Metricon? Seems you guys arent keen on this option but from the outside it appears the obvious choice.

Could see Lions splitting home games between RNA and Metricon depending on who they're playing. Big Melbourne sides at Metricon and smaller ones plus interstate teams at RNA. Similar to how the Blues and Cats split home games.

Lions would just lose to much money playing the big sides at RNA due to capacity constraints. Dont see Springfield being an option either due to similar capacity issues plus ground accessability potentially being a nightmare.

its a shitstorm to get to and from, same in reverse for suns fans to the gabba
thats why very little travelling fans for eachQClash

 

[Elixuh]

Hey guys, any reason there is not more talk of Metricon? Seems you guys arent keen on this option but from the outside it appears the obvious choice.

Could see Lions splitting home games between RNA and Metricon depending on who they're playing. Big Melbourne sides at Metricon and smaller ones plus interstate teams at RNA. Similar to how the Blues and Cats split home games.

Lions would just lose to much money playing the big sides at RNA due to capacity constraints. Dont see Springfield being an option either due to similar capacity issues plus ground accessability potentially being a nightmare.

I tend to agree, but it’d be like Carlton playing home games down in Geelong for several years and add in horrendous traffic both ways as is always the case on the m1.

I’d still pay my membership but wouldn’t attend the majority of games due to the inconvenience factor.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

You should stand for the Greens at the next election with that as part of your platform and see how that goes

Thanks. I'll place that on my pile of utterly worthless opinions.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I tend to agree, but it’d be like Carlton playing home games down in Geelong for several years and add in horrendous traffic both ways as is always the case on the m1.

I’d still pay my membership but wouldn’t attend the majority of games due to the inconvenience factor.

Fair enough. Yeah it sounds sounds like it'll be far from ideal whatever the outcome.

 

[dlanod]

Hey guys, any reason there is not more talk of Metricon? Seems you guys arent keen on this option but from the outside it appears the obvious choice.

Could see Lions splitting home games between RNA and Metricon depending on who they're playing. Big Melbourne sides at Metricon and smaller ones plus interstate teams at RNA. Similar to how the Blues and Cats split home games.

Lions would just lose to much money playing the big sides at RNA due to capacity constraints. Dont see Springfield being an option either due to similar capacity issues plus ground accessability potentially being a nightmare.

If Marvel was unavailable for four years (and the MCG didn't exist), would you rather play your home games at Princes Park or Kardinia Park?

 

[Pacman82]

If Marvel was unavailable for four years (and the MCG didn't exist), would you rather play your home games at Princes Park or Kardinia Park?

Princes park is an utterly rubbish ground these days though, only seats 12,000 as well.

The bulk of home games at Carrara would be to the betterment of the side one would think.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Princes park is an utterly rubbish ground these days though, only seats 12,000 as well.

The bulk of home games at Carrara would be to the betterment of the side one would think.

Kardinia Park is Carrara in this analogy

 

[M Malice]

Metricon?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[Dalions]

The bulk of home games at Carrara would be to the betterment of the side one would think.

Not if they end up with a half empty stadium.

 

[Pacman82]

Kardinia Park is Carrara in this analogy

I'm fully aware of that, just pointing out how Princes is not anywhere near upto AFL standards & only has a 12,000 capacity. I'm sure most Carlton supporters wouldn't want games played there in its current state.

 

[Pacman82]

Not if they end up with a half empty stadium.

Me n Browney will go to every game! I'll just spread right out & enjoy it then

In all seriousness, I think having a good ground to play on consistently is a lot more important during the period personally. Stability.. Routine..

 

[Mighty Lions]

Me n Browney will go to every game! I'll just spread right out & enjoy it then

In all seriousness, I think having a good ground to play on consistently is a lot more important during the period personally. Stability.. Routine..

Except Heritage isn't a good ground.

 

[Dalions]

Me n Browney will go to every game! I'll just spread right out & enjoy it then

In all seriousness, I think having a good ground to play on consistently is a lot more important during the period personally. Stability.. Routine..

I have no doubt that wherever it may be that we end up. The quality of the ground itself will not be the issue.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Did they ever consider just building a new venue somewhere else and leaving the Gabba. Imagine the chaos with machinery trying to get into the site.

 

[dlanod]

I'm fully aware of that, just pointing out how Princes is not anywhere near upto AFL standards & only has a 12,000 capacity. I'm sure most Carlton supporters wouldn't want games played there in its current state.

Wikipedia has it at about 24,000.

Either way, I was explaining to a (presumably) Melbourne based Carlton supporter as to the lack of enthusiasm for Carrara by analogy. Following your logic, the Showgrounds are an even more attractive option then.

 

[Pacman82]

I have no doubt that wherever it may be that we end up. The quality of the ground itself will not be the issue.

I'm sure the surface itself will be fine wherever it is, yes. The point I'm trying to make is more around the facility itself, changerooms, amenities, for all the playing/coaching/medical/admin team, as well some needed stability & routine for that frontline group. I think it's paramount we have a good ground locked in for the period asap, and not some rolling fixture, gypsy like schedule for a 4 year era, which could potentially turn into an on field slump or worse case a disaster.

 

[Pacman82]

Wikipedia has it at about 24,000.

Either way, I was explaining to a (presumably) Melbourne based Carlton supporter as to the lack of enthusiasm for Carrara by analogy. Following your logic, the Showgrounds are an even more attractive option then.

Possibly another 10,000 standing at Princes now then, not that you can even do that on the westside goals end as there's a building now there. Haven't been there since we played a pre-season match a while back & it was a rubbish ground to watch as a spectator now days. marcmurphy3 maybe you can confirm the current numbers.. Anyhow comparing Carrara to Kardinia Park is another false analogy, you have to take the regional V-Line service to get to Geelong from Melbourne, while Carrara is connected to Brisbane's metro rail service. There's also a large urban sprawl between Brisbane & Carrara, between Melbourne & Kardinia's not so much. Kardinia Park only currently holds 26,000, Carrara could hold 40,000 by rd.1 2024. The state transport service provides game day attendees free public transport & would put on extra services no doubt as well. So there's another 4 major factors that make Carrara a more attractive proposition.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Thank god a Victorian is here to put us all straight #VICSPLAINING

 

[dlanod]

Possibly another 10,000 standing at Princes now then, not that you can even do that on the westside goals end as there's a building now there. Haven't been there since we played a pre-season match a while back & it was a rubbish ground to watch as a spectator now days. marcmurphy3 maybe you can confirm the current numbers.. Anyhow comparing Carrara to Kardinia Park is another false analogy, you have to take the regional V-Line service to get to Geelong from Melbourne, while Carrara is connected to Brisbane's metro rail service. There's also a large urban sprawl between Brisbane & Carrara, between Melbourne & Kardinia's not so much. Kardinia Park only currently holds 26,000, Carrara could hold 40,000 by rd.1 2024. The state transport service provides game day attendees free public transport & would put on extra services no doubt as well. So there's another 4 major factors that make Carrara a more attractive proposition.

Have you been to Carrara on match day via public transport? If so, you wouldn't claim Carrara is connected to the train. Honestly I'd rather Kardinia - the train ride from Melbourne/Brisbane is identical in length, but then you walk from the train station to Kardinia vs competing with thousands of people (if the Lions are there) for shuttle buses at the beginning and end of the night.

 

[Pacman82]

Have you been to Carrara on match day via public transport? If so, you wouldn't claim Carrara is connected to the train. Honestly I'd rather Kardinia - the train ride from Melbourne/Brisbane is identical in length, but then you walk from the train station to Kardinia vs competing with thousands of people (if the Lions are there) for shuttle buses at the beginning and end of the night.

It's a short walk, courtesy buses could easily service the short distance as well. I've caught the train along there plenty of times, there's one every 15mins or so. I'm guessing you've never caught the V/Line, dinky old diesel service towing a few small carriages at scarce intervals.

 

[Pacman82]

Thank god a Victorian is here to put us all straight #VICSPLAINING

You don't know where I live..

I get why Brisbane based supporters want the home ground to stay there, I'm simply providing some reasons why it may not be entirely to our betterment.

 

[Dalions]

You don't know where I live..

I get why Brisbane based supporters want the home ground to stay there, I'm simply providing some reasons why it may not be entirely to our betterment.

If the club truly believed that moving to Carrara was for the betterment of the club then they would have been pushing for that from the start, when in fact the opposite has happened.