Geelong and Hawthorn record monumentally embarrassing 800 page shitfight thread.

[chefmeister]

I've noticed a touch of humanity infiltrating your posting over the last little bit Cheffy. Is it hard to put on?

Not at all, not for me. I've just realized that I should embrace my humility and humble nature for what it is and I'll endure & rise above this cesspit that sustains the majority.

Many posters could learn from me on this matter, I'm a firm teacher but very fair and we all know a firm man is fun to find.

 

[King Cold]

Nobody knows. You claim to know a lot of things that are unknowable, just another sign of how desperate you are to believe, I guess.

Unknowable? Everyone knows the Eagles were an ordinary side in 2011, and made the top 4 off the back of an easy draw.

And they still managed to get there. Kind of proves my point about how the QF doesn't matter as much as you thought it did

By beating ordinary Crows and Dockers sides, gee the competition really was weak in 2015 wasn't it

Which game are you talking about? Is this to do with a Geelong game? There's a reason the circumstances of those matches have been forgotten, they are not as relevant as you want to think.

Hawks fans and their selective memories

No-one cares. They certainly won't care in 20 years when your team continues to be rated below Brisbane and Hawthorn.

Sorry but the KPI's that I mentioned earlier all point to Geelong's dynasty being superior to Hawthorn's.

All you have is people's opinions, and 'when it matters'

By big games I mean big games. 2008 GF, 2013 PF are the big games our clubs have squared off in in this era, and Hawthorn have taken the chocolates both times. If Geelong stood up, it might've been a different story regarding our respective dynasties. As it stands however, Hawthorn got everything it wanted out of Geelong, two wins leading to two premierships while simultaneously denying Geelong a couple. That's the kind of stuff that makes footy finals folklore, and has secured Hawthorn as the greatest dynasty of the modern era.

Clarkson knew that his team couldn't beat us fair and square in the 2008 GF as we were just too good, so he came up with an unsportsman like tactic to beat us which ended up forcing a rule change.

You beat us in the 2013 PF by a measly 5 points with your team at full strength, while we were without a recognised ruckman, Hawkins was playing with a severe back injury, and Chapman and Enright didn't play.

Well done

 

[RedVest4]

Why are the Hawks supporters so obsessed with the Cats and why are they such melters?

 

[Josh_hawk]

Why are the Hawks supporters so obsessed with the Cats and why are they such melters?

Nice melt cockatoo

 

[Art Vandelay_]

maybe Nakia can take a stab and answering that for you.

Ooh there we go again. Another stab reference. Tell tale sign they have nothing

 

[dean31]

Ooh there we go again. Another stab reference. Tell tale sign they have nothing

Hawks have a 3 Peat, and the history of beating Geelong in elimination finals/GF's. While also preventing Geelong from having a dynasty (2008)

 

[A Cut Above]

Nokia. Such wit.

Haha now we know you're taking the piss!

 

[dean31]

Unknowable? Everyone knows the Eagles were an ordinary side in 2011, and made the top 4 off the back of an easy draw.



By beating ordinary Crows and Dockers sides, gee the competition really was weak in 2015 wasn't it



Hawks fans and their selective memories



Sorry but the KPI's that I mentioned earlier all point to Geelong's dynasty being superior to Hawthorn's.

All you have is people's opinions, and 'when it matters'



Clarkson knew that his team couldn't beat us fair and square in the 2008 GF as we were just too good, so he came up with an unsportsman like tactic to beat us which ended up forcing a rule change.

You beat us in the 2013 PF by a measly 5 points with your team at full strength, while we were without a recognised ruckman, Hawkins was playing with a severe back injury, and Chapman and Enright didn't play.

Well done

AFL is a team sport, all those individual honours your desperately holding onto mean jack shit. Having a higher win % in regular seasons/finals again count for nothing If it is followed up by choking in Elimination finals. Geelong choked their way on 4 occasions to not having a dynasty.
No B2B, No Dynasty
2008: Choke
2010: Choke
2012: Choke
2013: Choke
If only Geelong had the mental strength to win when it matters and to beat teams above them in finals. Instead they ended up with the Hawks balls on their chin.
Opinions of multiple former Geelong players carry more value than the opinion of the few desperate supporters regarding individual honours above team honours.
Real simple math, Hawks required 3 years to win 3 Premierships, Geelong Danks required 5.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Hawks have a 3 Peat, and the history of beating Geelong in elimination finals/GF's. While also preventing Geelong from having a dynasty (2008)

Another did not read copy and paste job I see. Chest puffing and stab references is what you lot stand for

 

[chefmeister]

AFL is a team sport, all those individual honours your desperately holding onto mean jack shit. Having a higher win % in regular seasons/finals again count for nothing If it is followed up by choking in Elimination finals. Geelong choked their way on 4 occasions to not having a dynasty.
No B2B, No Dynasty
2008: Choke
2010: Choke
2012: Choke
2013: Choke
If only Geelong had the mental strength to win when it matters and to beat teams above them in finals. Instead they ended up with the Hawks balls on their chin.
Opinions of multiple former Geelong players carry more value than the opinion of the few desperate supporters regarding individual honours above team honours.
Real simple math, Hawks required 3 years to win 3 Premierships, Geelong Danks required 5.




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Sorry buddy but Geelong's dynasty stands no matter what your own personal little requirements may or may not be.

 

[King Cold]

AFL is a team sport, all those individual honours your desperately holding onto mean jack shit. Having a higher win % in regular seasons/finals again count for nothing If it is followed up by choking in Elimination finals. Geelong choked their way on 4 occasions to not having a dynasty.
No B2B, No Dynasty
2008: Choke
2010: Choke
2012: Choke
2013: Choke
If only Geelong had the mental strength to win when it matters and to beat teams above them in finals. Instead they ended up with the Hawks balls on their chin.
Opinions of multiple former Geelong players carry more value than the opinion of the few desperate supporters regarding individual honours above team honours.
Real simple math, Hawks required 3 years to win 3 Premierships, Geelong Danks required 5.




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As opposed to Hawthorn?

2009 - shit the bed, miss the finals
2010 - scrape into the 8, get smacked by Fremantle in EF
2011 - get smacked by Geelong in QF, choke to Collingwood in PF
2012 - choke to Sydney in the unloseable GF

 

[Lethality]

Unknowable? Everyone knows the Eagles were an ordinary side in 2011, and made the top 4 off the back of an easy draw.

No they don't, and your claim was that you knew the future anyway, which you don't. So it's a desperate overreach.

By beating ordinary Crows and Dockers sides, gee the competition really was weak in 2015 wasn't it

Nah your arguments are weak. Clearly travelling twice to Perth is no obstacle to us getting to the Grand Final, so there's no reason why playing another week in Melbourne would've cost us the freshness that you claim decided the Preliminary Final result either

Sorry but the KPI's that I mentioned earlier all point to Geelong's dynasty being superior to Hawthorn's.

No they don't, it's just a bunch of meaningless stats. The fact that you actually quote finals percentage is laughable, as we all know percentage doesn't actually count for anything in finals. I guess it's typical of handbaggers to mistake home and away for finals.

Clarkson knew that his team couldn't beat us fair and square in the 2008 GF as we were just too good, so he came up with an unsportsman like tactic to beat us which ended up forcing a rule change.

It was Joel Bowden who used it as a time wasting technique that got it changed. That was earlier in the year.

You beat us in the 2013 PF by a measly 5 points with your team at full strength, while we were without a recognised ruckman, Hawkins was playing with a severe back injury, and Chapman and Enright didn't play.

Oh wow, injury excuses.

You'd do better to just acknowledge your dynasty has been surpassed. It happens.

 

[Josh_hawk]

As opposed to Hawthorn?

2009 - shit the bed, miss the finals
2010 - scrape into the 8, get smacked by Fremantle in EF
2011 - get smacked by Geelong in QF, choke to Collingwood in PF
2012 - choke to Sydney in the unloseable GF

Wasn't 2008 the unloseable GF?

21 -1 in the H&A to lose the GF -

Id reckon thats shitting the bed and rubbing your own nose in it

Ha! that must still burn hence all your floundering right here

 

[RedVest4]

Hawks have a 3 Peat, and the history of beating Geelong in elimination finals/GF's. While also preventing Geelong from having a dynasty (2008)

11 wins in a row against you.
Cost you the 2011 Premiership.
Cost you making finals in 09.
Beat you in the 63 GF.

It's ok... You'll get over it one day.

 

[A Cut Above]

11 wins in a row against you.
Cost you the 2011 Premiership.
Cost you making finals in 09.
Beat you in the 63 GF.

It's ok... You'll get over it one day.

Don't delude yourself elias.

2011 Geelong were clearly ahead of us and we couldn't get past Collingwood in the prelim either. if anything by beating us in the QF the PepCats saved us an embarrassing GF defeat, doing us a favor.
2009? Who gives a shit we were miles off the pace that year and were never in the hunt for the flag.
1963? Most of us weren't even alive then. Mentioning it only proves how desperate you are and how little ammunition you have.

We cost you a flag in 1989, B2B flags in 2008 and quite possibly a flag in 2013. Don't kid yourself fool, we are WAY ahead on the ledger and you know it.

 

[RedVest4]

Don't delude yourself elias.

2011 Geelong were clearly ahead of us and we couldn't get past Collingwood in the prelim either. if anything by beating us in the QF the PepCats saved us an embarrassing GF defeat, doing us a favor.
2009? Who gives a shit we were miles off the pace that year and were never in the hunt for the flag.
1963? Most of us weren't even alive then. Mentioning it only proves how desperate you are and how little ammunition you have.

We cost you a flag in 1989, B2B flags in 2008 and quite possibly a flag in 2013. Don't kid yourself fool, we are WAY ahead on the ledger and you know it.

I think you are funny and like your posts too much to come back to this.

 

[dean31]

As opposed to Hawthorn?

2009 - shit the bed, miss the finals
2010 - scrape into the 8, get smacked by Fremantle in EF
2011 - get smacked by Geelong in QF, choke to Collingwood in PF
2012 - choke to Sydney in the unloseable GF

2012 the Hawks were only 1 win in the regular season better than the Swans. If we want to look at supposedly un-loseable Grand Finals, 08 takes the cake.
I don't think these crying men saw that coming. The Weapon and Dank would be disappointed with that result also.












3Peat >>>>>>No Peat

 

[King Cold]

No they don't, and your claim was that you knew the future anyway, which you don't. So it's a desperate overreach.

Stating the fact that Hawthorn would have had an easier path to the GF if they had won the QF is claiming to know the future?

Also the carry on from Hawks fans after beating us in the 2014 QF was quite over the top considering that according to them the result didn't matter

Nah your arguments are weak. Clearly travelling twice to Perth is no obstacle to us getting to the Grand Final, so there's no reason why playing another week in Melbourne would've cost us the freshness that you claim decided the Preliminary Final result either

The travel factor from two trips to Perth was cancelled out by the home ground advantage over West Coast in the GF.

No they don't, it's just a bunch of meaningless stats. The fact that you actually quote finals percentage is laughable, as we all know percentage doesn't actually count for anything in finals. I guess it's typical of handbaggers to mistake home and away for finals.

I clearly separated home and away win percentage and finals win percentage, so much for mistaking home and away for finals

It was Joel Bowden who used it as a time wasting technique that got it changed. That was earlier in the year.

Hawthorn's efforts in the Grand Final were the final straw, though.

Oh wow, injury excuses.

You'd do better to just acknowledge your dynasty has been surpassed. It happens.

We had the wood over the Hawks in 2013, and for that matter the last 11 games in a row.

Hats off to the Hawks for finally managing to beat us when we were cooked

 

[dean31]

Stating the fact that Hawthorn would have had an easier path to the GF if they had won the QF is claiming to know the future?

Also the carry on from Hawks fans after beating us in the 2014 QF was quite over the top considering that according to them the result didn't matter



The travel factor from two trips to Perth was cancelled out by the home ground advantage over West Coast in the GF.



I clearly separated home and away win percentage and finals win percentage, so much for mistaking home and away for finals



Hawthorn's efforts in the Grand Final were the final straw, though.



We had the wood over the Hawks in 2013, and for that matter the last 11 games in a row.

Hats off to the Hawks for finally managing to beat us when we were cooked

Correction, the Hawks beat Geelong at their absolute pinnacle. The finest season for Geelong you had ever witnessed utterly destroyed by the Hawks in a Grand Final masterclass.

 

[King Cold]

You should just be happy that the Hawks didn't make the grand final in 2011. As we all know the Hawks win the games that matter most against the Geelong Danks.
No B2B = No Dynasty

Jeff Kennett is that you?

 

[dean31]

Jeff Kennett is that you?

Jeff Kennet did some good things but if he had his way Clarkson and the Hawks wouldn't have a 3Peat.
Nakia is that you?
You are the only other Geelong fan on Bigfooty that raises the same individual honours as credit in the debate. If it's not Nakia you sure are his groupie

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

1963? Most of us weren't even alive then. Mentioning it only proves how desperate you are and how little ammunition you have.

Forget about being alive, you weren't following football until 20 years later when your parents tied you to the ceiling fan with a piece of string and pushed sand up your vagina until you conceded and begin following Hawthorn... along those lines?

84-85 must have been hellish years for yourself. First time supporter of a club who loses back to back flags to the team you now despise. It still hurts doesn't it?

 

[A Cut Above]

Forget about being alive, you weren't following football until 20 years later when your parents tied you to the ceiling fan with a piece of string and pushed sand up your vagina until you conceded and begin following Hawthorn... along those lines?

84-85 must have been hellish years for yourself. First time supporter of a club who loses back to back flags to the team you now despise. It still hurts doesn't it?

Oh stabby... what must life be like in that bizarre world you inhabit? I would pay a visit just to gasp in amazement at grandeur of the illusions you've constructed. The Handbaggers probably are the 'greatest team of all' in your little fantasy realm, heck they might even been peptide-free in those remarkable cubic centimeters within your skull.

While the rest of us glance over your posts with a frown and a sad shake of the head, I've no doubt you genuinely believe you're the undisputed King of BigFooty, the hero who's never lost an argument... except with himself. It must all be true because you believe it right? Well who am I to shatter the misconceptions you've worked so hard to create, so in future I'll just nod my head politely at your ramblings in the vain hope you won't do yourself any more harm.

 

[Lethality]

Stating the fact that Hawthorn would have had an easier path to the GF if they had won the QF is claiming to know the future?

That's not what you said.

King Cold - 'you know as well as I do that the Hawks would have been fresh for the GF after a training run'

Nobody knows, you claim to know because you are willingly delusional.

Also the carry on from Hawks fans after beating us in the 2014 QF was quite over the top considering that according to them the result didn't matter

I already differentiated from knockout blows and games that matter.

The travel factor from two trips to Perth was cancelled out by the home ground advantage over West Coast in the GF.

There is no home ground advantage in the GF, check the stats.

I clearly separated home and away win percentage and finals win percentage, so much for mistaking home and away for finals

Who cares what you separated, you're quoting percentage as though it is even calculated. Finals are winners take all, there is no second prize and there is no percentage LOL

Hawthorn's efforts in the Grand Final were the final straw, though.

Nah, most of the rushed behinds in the 08 Grand Final would still occur today. The only flagrant rushed behind was Mark Williams snap shot, and the game was over by then anyway. This is another example of a time where you should just accept the result instead of invoking cheating where it doesn't exist.

We had the wood over the Hawks in 2013, and for that matter the last 11 games in a row.

Except in finals, where dynasties are won and lost.

 

[Packedlunch]

Handbaggers must be filthy at the bombers for costing them the fourpeat.