Banter Geelong V Richmond - GO!

[Wosh]

In the interests of keeping your back and forth shite fights out of match threads so normal people can talk.

Keep it clean and above the shorts
Off topic rubbish clogging up match threads will be moved here, knock yourselves out.

 

[BF Tiger]

Actually, he wasn't.

All the hype was around JHF.

Daicos probably would have been #2 if not for Father/Son, but he had been surpassed by JHF.

You sure about that Fadgey? Here is the geelong_crazy26 annointed draft guru Cal Twomey ranking Daicos as #1.

Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

Draft guru Cal Twomey reveals his September rankings of the 2021 draft pool

www.afc.com.au

 

[Wojcinski]

Do you not understand how forum's work? That's right, you're not here to debate, just troll.

What have you actually contributed meaningful in your 22 posts in this thread, the most of any non-Richmond supporter? There was some troll about a Richmond draft hand 20 years ago where you were made to look like a peanut, and now it's happening again as you go in to bat for someone who is claiming something that has been shown to be untrue.

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I'm not going in to bat for anyone, the post is on the main board so people other than Richmond supporters are going to post here, if you're gonna get your knickers in a twist because non-Richmond people post about Richmond then stick to the Richmond board.

 

[BF Tiger]

I'm not going in to bat for anyone, the post is on the main board so people other than Richmond supporters are going to post here, if you're gonna get your knickers in a twist because non-Richmond people post about Richmond then stick to the Richmond board.

You’re right, it’s on the main board. So if Richmond want to disagree with an assessment then they’re allowed to. If you’re gonna get you’re knickers in a twist about it then stick to the Geelong board.

Once again, do you know how forums work?

Once again, complete lack of self-awareness on your behalf.

Off you go Wojokeski.

 

[Rich01]

What’s with all the Geelong trolls in this thread?
Hard to believe they are all so passionate about how young Ashcroft is rated by Richmond supporters.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

There is no consensus to who is the number one player in this year’s draft. Far greater football minds than “geelong_crazy26” agree on this.

It’s baffling why you’re choosing to die on this hill.

I wouldn’t call bringing up a widely regarded opinion about Ashcroft being the best player in the pool and it sucks richmond don’t have access to him as “dying on a hill”

Talk about dramatic and sensitive. It’s obviously hitting a nerve so I will stop.

Same thing happened daicos draft and jamarra ugle drafts, yet both fan bases with the no1 were much less sensitive about this than Richmond fans seem to be.

 

[BF Tiger]

I wouldn’t call bringing up a widely regarded opinion about Ashcroft being the best player in the pool and it sucks richmond don’t have access to him as “dying on a hill”

Talk about dramatic and sensitive. It’s obviously hitting a nerve so I will stop.

Same thing happened daicos draft and jamarra ugle drafts, yet both fan bases with the no1 were much less sensitive about this than Richmond fans seem to be.

You’ve gone from “unaminous” to “widely held”. Making progress. I’m proud of you. Now keep going.

No nerves hit. Just you outing yourself as a peanut. I’m more concerned about you than I am about who goes #1. That’s just the type of person I am.

 

[BF Tiger]

I wouldn’t call bringing up a widely regarded opinion about Ashcroft being the best player in the pool and it sucks richmond don’t have access to him as “dying on a hill”

Talk about dramatic and sensitive. It’s obviously hitting a nerve so I will stop.

Same thing happened daicos draft and jamarra ugle drafts, yet both fan bases with the no1 were much less sensitive about this than Richmond fans seem to be.

Also this is what “not dying on this hill” looks like…

Not much of a tanking effort when they won’t even be able to draft the best player with pick no 1.

Absolutely sucks ass

I’m not saying the no pick will or won’t turn out the best of the pool, I’m saying you don’t have access to drafting the best underage player in the country with pick no 1 Levi ashcroft. And that sucks big time since you have pick 1.

The general consensus is ashcroft is the best talent in this pool. You are realistically getting pick no2 not pick 1. Whichever way you want to look at it it’s not ideal.

The draft is an even one but it seems to lack elite top end talent. The WCE pick trade out is obvious of this.

Probably more likely to get a few B+ graders from this crop than a star player with your firsts.

So was dunkley off limits to every other club?? Strange he became a bulldog then.

Whatever pov you want to make, the point is very simple. Richmond are not getting the best underage player in the country on draft night, Brisbane are.

Very straight forward. They are getting the second best available after * insert your above view or anyone else’s* to the reason or perspective.. end of the day, they are getting the second best, not first

No, he isn’t, he is widely tipped the best in the crop.

So to answer a simple question: “ are Richmond getting the best underage player who is in this crop?” Yes or no

You didn’t answer the question, the question is “ are Richmond getting the best player in this years crop with pick 1?”Yes or no?

There is one player who is above the rest and it’s Ashcroft, the rest even out quite quickly for the majority of the first round.

I will put it this way, what was a draft with an elite top end ( considered at the time) was the 2018 crop. This years is not considered that at all.

In 2018 you had Walsh rankine king brothers lukoscious rozzee and Bailey smith….

Now that was an elite 6-7, not this years.

I would call it dramatic but you post stuff like this often.

All I said was you aren’t going to draft the best player which is unanimously ashcroft, and that the draft is a very even one without elite standouts at the top end. It’s a deep draft but not an elite one, which works well with your 8 top 30 picks anyway.

From cal twomey having him unanimously at no1.

Every time the next challenge comes, Ashcroft lifts to it. He made his VFL debut for the Lions and gathered 35 disposals and 11 clearances and since then has produced some terrific performances for the Dragons, including 40 touches and two goals in their qualifying final win over the Calder Cannons. He backed it up with 33 disposals and two goals on Sunday in the preliminary final and is shooting to this week become a three-time premiership winner in consecutive years for the Dragons. Ashcroft is ready to be playing at AFL level and the ball-winner has been preparing himself for that next step for some time.View attachment 2149525View attachment 2149525

Cal twomey is the draft guru And has him no1 like most others. A lot are tipping him further down because they don’t believe Richmond will bid on him. He is unanimously considered the best player of the draft.

His VFL form was light years ahead of any of the players Richmond trialed in their VFL also

I will rephrase, he is unanimously considered the best player in the draft, much like daicos due to being F/S, he is tipped to go a bit lower on some draft boards.

You’re welcome

Again, much like nick daicos being the clear no1 player in the draft pool and going no4 due to being a F/S pick, it is similar with Ashcroft this season. You are not getting your hands on the best player in the crop

I can only imagine they would prefer he was available, but are working with what’s available in front of them of cause.

Not fair you guys are being robbed of the best player in the pool

I wouldn’t call bringing up a widely regarded opinion about Ashcroft being the best player in the pool and it sucks richmond don’t have access to him as “dying on a hill”

Talk about dramatic and sensitive. It’s obviously hitting a nerve so I will stop.

Same thing happened daicos draft and jamarra ugle drafts, yet both fan bases with the no1 were much less sensitive about this than Richmond fans seem to be.

I’m crying

That’s only like 20 mentions about Ashcroft being the #1 prospect in about 20 posts from you from across five or six pages. Sometimes more than once in the same post.

 

[Wojcinski]

You’re right, it’s on the main board. So if Richmond want to disagree with an assessment then they’re allowed to. If you’re gonna get you’re knickers in a twist about it then stick to the Geelong board.

Once again, do you know how forums work?

Once again, complete lack of self-awareness on your behalf.

Off you go Wojokeski.

Do you always take offense to absolutely everything said about Richmond? It's getting a little bit embarrassing watching your emotional meltdown because someone suggested Richmond couldn't pick the best player in the draft.

Lets hope they don't have a repeat of '04

 

[BF Tiger]

Do you always take offense to absolutely everything said about Richmond? It's getting a little bit embarrassing watching your emotional meltdown because someone suggested Richmond couldn't pick the best player in the draft.

Lets hope they don't have a repeat of '04

Where have I taken offence? Just offered facts to counter misinformation. You should try it.

Yes, definitely hoping not to repeat the disaster of 20 years ago.

 

[Grrr]

no self-awareness? I just can't see why so many people took offense to what appeared to be a comment commiserating how unfortunate that Ashcroft is out of the picture for the Tigers.

Commiserating is a strange choice of words, baiting, disingenuous....

 

[Grrr]

Ashcroft is widely (not unanimously - that word was used as hyperbole, which is almost unanimously misunderstood by BF posters) considered the best talent in the draft.

However, Richmond fans seem to think Ashcroft is more like Jack Watts than Jack Dyer.

The real problem then must be the horror of the lack of talent awaiting Richmond's 219 other early draft picks!

And you criticise Richmond posters for their hyperbolic response then state that we think Ashcroft is more like Jack Watts.
The silliest post so far.

 

[BF Tiger]

And you criticise Richmond posters for their hyperbolic response then state that we think Ashcroft is more like Jack Watts.
The silliest post so far.

You forgot the hyperbolic "219 other early draft picks" as well.

 

[Wojcinski]

Commiserating is a strange choice of words, baiting, disingenuous....

I didn't think it read that way.

 

[BF Tiger]

I didn't think it read that way.

That'd be that lack of self-awareness that a number Geelong supporters exhibit. Again.

Do better.

 

[Drunkcat]

Will they tank again in 2025 or will they try.

 

[Grrr]

Will they tank again in 2025 or will they try.

That should reel us in, very clever.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Also this is what “not dying on this hill” looks like…































I’m crying

That’s only like 20 mentions about Ashcroft being the #1 prospect in about 20 posts from you from across five or six pages. Sometimes more than once in the same post.

To quote a very incompetent vice president Kamala Harris in her first debate “ wow talk about being dramatic”.

All I have stated and repetitively stated to all these angry posts is simply that it is a unanimous or widely help opinion or consensus whatever way you want to play semantics on it, that Richmond is not getting the best player in this crop. Ashcroft is well ahead of the others.

your post and emotions really seem to show I struck a nerve when if you don’t believe it to be true really shouldn’t get this sort of over the top reaction

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Seems pretty important to you. How much do you think Richmond really cares whether they select the best player in the draft this year? I think they might be just trying to build a cohesive team comrade.

Not gonna lie, it brings a smirk on my face a little that you aren’t getting the best player in the crop. Probs about it. Just the intense reaction you guys give is priceless whenever it’s mentioned

 

[Grrr]

To quote a very incompetent vice president Kamala Harris in her first debate “ wow talk about being dramatic”.

All I have stated and repetitively stated to all these angry posts is simply that it is a unanimous or widely help opinion or consensus whatever way you want to play semantics on it, that Richmond is not getting the best player in this crop. Ashcroft is well ahead of the others.

your post and emotions really seem to show I struck a nerve when if you don’t believe it to be true really shouldn’t get this sort of over the top reaction

But he's not, and it is not.

 

[G String]

To quote a very incompetent vice president Kamala Harris in her first debate “ wow talk about being dramatic”.

All I have stated and repetitively stated to all these angry posts is simply that it is a unanimous or widely help opinion or consensus whatever way you want to play semantics on it, that Richmond is not getting the best player in this crop. Ashcroft is well ahead of the others.

your post and emotions really seem to show I struck a nerve when if you don’t believe it to be true really shouldn’t get this sort of over the top reaction

I think the only thing making people angry and I'm including any objective and prob a few Geelong posters - is not the obvious baiting/trolling but that you still dont seem to have a grasp on the word 'unanimous' and now 'consensus' - the number 1 pick is very debatable and Ashcroft is in that debate definitely. You nearly got there with 'widely help opinion'. As I mentioned earlier I think he is number one slightly ahead of the others but it is def not a consensus.

I'm just coming back to this thread because its hilarious how you keep going on about it but still dont really understand the words you're using

 

[BF Tiger]

To quote a very incompetent vice president Kamala Harris in her first debate “ wow talk about being dramatic”.

All I have stated and repetitively stated to all these angry posts is simply that it is a unanimous or widely help opinion or consensus whatever way you want to play semantics on it, that Richmond is not getting the best player in this crop. Ashcroft is well ahead of the others.

your post and emotions really seem to show I struck a nerve when if you don’t believe it to be true really shouldn’t get this sort of over the top reaction

We could flip that and just highlight how much you’ve sooked it up when few have agreed with your opinion. You’ve then bombarded this thread with same statement over and over with no supporting articles or links. You’re no longer worth debating this topic with as you bring nothing new to it.

Just change your user name from geelong_crazy26 to richmond_triggered171920 and be done with it. You’ve only embarrassed yourself in this thread, and firmly outed yourself as a troll.

 

[BF Tiger]

Pick a winner: Who your team will target in the AFL draft

We now know the ins and outs, the draft picks and the list spots that are available, so what will your club’s strategy be?

www.theage.com.au

Just another article from today that doesn’t rate Ashcroft as the #1 pick.

 

[Wojcinski]

That'd be that lack of self-awareness that a number Geelong supporters exhibit. Again.

Do better.

you've just completely derailed the thread with your personal sensitivity because you cannot cope with the fact that there are Geelong supporters in here, notice how only the Richmond trolls are reacting to your posts? As I said in a previous post, if you can't cope with Geelong supporters (or other clubs for that matter) discussing Richmond then just stay on the Richmond board.

Do better.

 

[BF Tiger]

you've just completely derailed the thread with your personal sensitivity because you cannot cope with the fact that there are Geelong supporters in here, notice how only the Richmond trolls are reacting to your posts? As I said in a previous post, if you can't cope with Geelong supporters (or other clubs for that matter) discussing Richmond then just stay on the Richmond board.

Do better.

We’ve had one guy repeat a lie 20+ times with no evidence or supporting statements… and I’ve derailed the thread?

Could you cope any harder, troll?

 

[Wojcinski]

We’ve had one guy repeat a lie 20+ times with no evidence or supporting statements… and I’ve derailed the thread?

Could you cope any harder, troll?

Is it a logical response to call him a liar because you don't agree with him, and me a troll because I don't support Richmond? Because that's what you're doing over and over again lol, I can just imagine how raw your fingertips are. Also look up what cope means because you clearly don't know