Banter Geelong V Richmond - GO!

[Wosh]

In the interests of keeping your back and forth shite fights out of match threads so normal people can talk.

Keep it clean and above the shorts
Off topic rubbish clogging up match threads will be moved here, knock yourselves out.

 

[PhatBoy]

Look, Geelong are probably the better H&A side due to their structural advantages with easy fixtures and salary cap workarounds. Happy to admit that.

But the Tigers rarely, if ever, bottled it in finals like Geelong do 9 times out of 10.

I think even the hardest Richmond critics would admit that

That’s rather easy when you are absent from them for decades at a time

 

[sleep]

 

[theprospector]

When is this thread's Christmas party? Look forward to thrashing this out over a few drinks

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Cotch, Martin and Rance (priority pick) were the (essential) charity picks for being truly awful. Not to mention the wasted picks before finally getting some gifts right.

Number of dynasty players Geelong were gifted for being truly awful = zero. Find the bottom 4 finishes, wooden spoons and priority picks that prove otherwise.

Followed up by a refusal to be a disgrace post-dynasty (compare this to Richmond) and instead pushing to another premiership the hard way. Strong culture.

Richmond this time are just doubling tanking up with a fire sale. Poor culture.

This is a laughable take.

Cotchin was a pick downgrade to gift Carlton pick 1 for being truly awful
Martin was a pick downgrade to gift Melbourne pick 2 for being truly awful
Then when Richmond was the next truly awful club they immediately downgraded our compo by 18 picks

Even one-eyed pie Eddie McGuire was on record that Richmond got royally screwed by the AFL in the draft in that era.

Luckily we were in god-mode for all those downgraded picks!

 

[PhatBoy]

When is this thread's Christmas party? Look forward to thrashing this out over a few drinks

I seriously doubt a lot of its participants are allowed access to alcohol

 

[Meteoric Rise]

That’s rather easy when you are absent from them for decades at a time

Casual fact check.

Richmond entered the competition 1908. Played finals:

1911-20 Yes
1921-1930 Yes
1931-1940 Yes
1941-1950 Yes
1951-1960 No
1961-1970 Yes
1971 -1980 Yes
1981-1990 Yes
1991-2000 Yes
2001-2010 Yes
2011-2020 Yes
2021-2030 Yes

Where exactly were these decades at a time we didn't play finals? All I can see is decades at a time we have played finals. Including the last 7 decades straight.

Very odd post from a very odd poster.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I believe Geelong are headed for a bleak future.
They will bottom out in the next 2 to 3 years imo, but won't get the draft picks due to Tasmania entering the competition.

 

[sleep]

 

[PhatBoy]

Casual fact check.

Richmond entered the competition 1908. Played finals:

1911-20 Yes
1921-1930 Yes
1931-1940 Yes
1941-1950 Yes
1951-1960 No
1961-1970 Yes
1971 -1980 Yes
1981-1990 Yes
1991-2000 Yes
2001-2010 Yes
2011-2020 Yes
2021-2030 Yes

Where exactly were these decades at a time we didn't play finals? All I can see is decades at a time we have played finals. Including the last 7 decades straight.

Very odd post from a very odd poster.

And acquitted yourselves at a high level each and every time you made it

 

[PhatBoy]

I believe Geelong are headed for a bleak future.
They will bottom out in the next 2 to 3 years imo, but won't get the draft picks due to Tasmania entering the competition.

I believe I have read this before a hundred thousand times

 

[Meteoric Rise]

And acquitted yourselves at a high level each and every time you made it

Not entirely correct.


But Richmond sits 3rd on the all-time finals performance ladder, and Geelong sits 15th. Richmond has won more finals per year and way more Premierships. So nobody knows wtf you are talking about. As usual.

 

[PhatBoy]

Not entirely correct.


But Richmond sits 3rd on the all-time finals performance ladder, and Geelong sits 15th. Richmond has won more finals per year and way more Premierships. So nobody knows wtf you are talking about. As usual.

I’m sure that will have come as a great comfort to all and sundry for them during the manure and microwave years.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I’m sure that will have come as a great comfort to all and sundry for them during the manure and microwave years.

Why wouldn't it?

 

[PhatBoy]

Why wouldn't it?

No you’re right, the people doing those things were celebrating.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

No you’re right, the people doing those things were celebrating.

We all believe you mate.

So far you said Richmond went decades on end without making finals. This was shown to be wrong, which you neither acknowledged nor apologised for to all the readers you misled.

Then you inferred Richmond's performance in finals had not been good. This was shown to be incorrect, which you neither acknowledged or apologised for to the readers you misled.

There is a fraction too much fiction coming from your keyboard my fibbing friend. So nobody believes you.

 

[PhatBoy]

We all believe you mate.

So far you said Richmond went decades on end without making finals. This was shown to be wrong, which you either acknowledged nor apologised for to all the readers you misled.

Then you inferred Richmond's performance in finals had not been good. This was shown to be incorrect, which you either acknowledged or apologised for to the readers you misled.

There is a fraction too much fiction coming from your keyboard my fibbing friend. So nobody believes you.

Richmond 1983-1994
Finals? 0

Can’t see any finals there. That’s enough for me.

Finals wins between 1980 and 2017:

3

No, you really set the world alight.

It was a golden era and one that should be celebrated by all.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Richmond 1983-1994
Finals? 0

Can’t see any finals there. That’s enough for me.

Finals wins between 1980 and 2017:

3

No, you really set the world alight.

It was a golden era and one that should be celebrated by all.

Where are the decades without finals appearances hiding fakePhactBoy? Where are you hiding them? Because we couldn't find them...nor any evidence of overall poor finals performance, unless you eliminate all the years with the strong finals performances the way you have sought to do.

Just own up you were wrong. You lied. And you haven't been big enough to admit it when taken to task.

 

[PhatBoy]

Where are the decades without finals appearances hiding fakePhactBoy? Where are you hiding them? Because we couldn't find them...nor any evidence of overall poor finals performance, unless you eliminate all the years with the strong finals performances the way you have sought to do.

Just own up you were wrong. You lied. And you haven't been big enough to admit it when taken to task.

Is a decade 10+ years or not? Well there’s one right there.

And unless you’re trying to claim that a 35 year period where 3 finals wins is strong - which I wouldn’t put past you, given your dementia - then it’s right there, Blaisee Sr.

 

[PhatBoy]

the 1947-67 stretch was a nice one too.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Is a decade 10+ years or not? Well there’s one right there.

And unless you’re trying to claim that a 35 year period where 3 finals wins is strong - which I wouldn’t put past you, given your dementia - then it’s right there, Blaisee Sr.

So you move seamlessly from making a very damaging claim that is incorrect, to making a correct claim that is not damaging. Do you think the second claim somehow proves the first lie correct? Just acknowledge you are a deliberate liar setting out to deceive people then we can all happily put this behind us and move on.

 

[PhatBoy]

So you move seamlessly from making a very damaging claim that is incorrect, to making a correct claim that is not damaging. Do you think the second claim somehow proves the first lie correct? Just acknowledge you are a deliberate liar setting out to deceive people then we can all happily put this behind us and move on.

Damaging?

To who? People whose self worth is determined by the performance of 18 athletes kicking a ball?

No you’re normal

Both claims are correct.

A few times from a cursory glance Richmond has been a decade or more without making the finals.

Once they went 20 years, once they went 13.
They have also at various stages proven to be shit at performing in finals during extended periods, notably between their 1980 title and their 2017 one, where they managed 3 finals wins. That’s a long, long time to only win 3 finals.

7 new clubs were established in that time and another relocated.
One club folded.
Another renamed itself.
Two generations of Gary Abletts debuted in that period.
There was 9 Summer Olympics in that time.
Bruce Jenner started that period as the reigning Olympic gold medalist in the most demanding of individual all-round sports and finished it as the world’s most famous recipient of sexual reassignment surgery and the ‘mother’ of the world’s most famous reality TV stars.

It’s a long time to win three finals out of 11 and claim that you just inherently always have a great record in them

 

[Meteoric Rise]

the 1947-67 stretch was a nice one too.

You mean the 1947-67 stretch that included finals in both those years....and a flag in one of them. You are a cesspit of lies and deceit today. Last I checked, 1948-1966 is not "decades on end."

Just admit you are a stinking liar.

 

[PhatBoy]

You mean the 1947-67 stretch that included finals in both those years....and a flag in one of them. You are a cesspit of lies and deceit today. Last I checked, 1948-1966 is not "decades on end."

Just admit you are a stinking liar.

Are you ok

Oh, I’m VERY sorry.

19 years. Not the mandatory 20 demanded by the boffins at Blaisee Labs to constitute a barren run and worthy of criticism

Well hey.

Maybe I’ll just cite the decade from 1948-1957 as one decade
And then the decade from 1949-1958 as another.

There you go. There’s two.

Chin up.

 

[Tony Serdar]

We're just waiting for Richmond to join us on four 21st century flags.

But during those 4 flags I never heard anyone say about Geelong: "it's not just the victory, it's the quality of the football."

Favourable circumstances with the father son rule of the day helped Geelong assemble a good list, some may even say that Geelong won 3 flags on talent alone.

If we can all agree that it's not in the victory only, but in the way of the victory that the marvel is greater, it's not that hard to believe that Richmond's 3 flags gave the footy world more to marvel at, as Bruce said as if he had never seen anything like it before, "it's not just the victory (Bruce has seen many victories), it's the quality of the football."

How much did you Geelong supporters love your teams quicker Richmond style ball movement after 2020, which for Geelong was caused by there being less pressure in the game, and not by Chris Scott's coaching, but by Hocking's rule change? Just what am I supposed to be marvelling at? How Richmond's quick ball movement won a flag for Geelong

 

[PhatBoy]

But during those 4 flags I never heard anyone say about Geelong: "it's not just the victory, it's the quality of the football."

Favourable circumstances with the father son rule of the day helped Geelong assemble a good list, some may even say that Geelong won 3 flags on talent alone.

If we can all agree that it's not in the victory only, but in the way of the victory that the marvel is greater, it's not that hard to believe that Richmond's 3 flags gave the footy world more to marvel at, as Bruce said as if he had never seen anything like it before, "it's not just the victory (Bruce has seen many victories), it's the quality of the football."

How much did you Geelong supporters love your teams quicker Richmond style ball movement after 2020, which for Geelong was caused by there being less pressure in the game, and not by Chris Scott's coaching, but by Hocking's rule change? Just what am I supposed to be marvelling at? How Richmond's quick ball movement won a flag for Geelong

Marvel at whatever the hell you want. I just enjoyed the trophies