Geelong: why are they just not good enough?

[Captain_Bender]

That's a great point. The 24 years between 1943 and 1967 where our 3 premierships were dwarfed by Richmond's famed "Zero Trophies Legends Dynasty" as its become unofficially known, was a particularly lopsided period of sustained success for the Tigers well beyond anything the Cats could have imagined in the same quarter of a century period.

Wow so you have to go all the way back to the 50s to find a other time were Geelong were able to be more successful than Richmond

 

[PhatBoy]

And we’ve lived through 2 of the last 3 flags ... and you’ve lived through getting spanked by us in finals .. so all good

We'll always have 2007

 

[PhatBoy]

Wow so you have to go all the way back to the 50s to find a other time were Geelong were able to be more successful than Richmond

Wow so you have to deflect from the fact that you didn't realise there was a quarter of a century period where we won 3 flags to Richmond's 0, as well as a 37 year period where we won 3 flags to Richmond's zero.

Considering that works out to 61 years in total, and Richmond have been in the competition for less than double that time - 112 years to be precise, I'd say it is a reasonable chunk of time. The point being, the internet is not hard to use, so maybe consult it before making a claim that isn't true.

 

[Reservoir tiger]

We'll always have 2007

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Oh no.. now I’m sad

loll and the days gaz senior booted bags against us for fun..or how about the 95 prelim?

You don’t get it..yeah we were terrible.. we don’t care cos we’re the best now and everyone’s terrible at some stage... us for 37 years.. you for nearly 50

but now were the best

 

[anth_christian]

And we’ve lived through 2 of the last 3 flags ... and you’ve lived through getting spanked by us in finals .. so all good

You realise you took time out of your life to contribute that post, right?

 

[Captain_Bender]

We'll always have 2007

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Typical Geelong celebrating meaningless home and away games

 

[Reservoir tiger]

You realise you took time out of your life to contribute that post, right?

You realise you’re doing the exact same right..

 

[PhatBoy]

Oh no.. now I’m sad

loll and the days gaz senior booted bags against us for fun..or how about the 95 prelim?

You don’t get it..yeah we were terrible.. we don’t care cos we’re the best now and everyone’s terrible at some stage... us for 37 years.. you for nearly 50

but now were the best

Don't get what, a bit of muck around banter? Geez mate. I know I post in fairly serious, or sarcastic tone a lot of the time but I am just yanking your chain.

 

[PhatBoy]

Typical Geelong celebrating meaningless home and away games

Who's celebrating? I'm still ropeable the Tigers sh*tshow somehow kicked 9 goals.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Who's celebrating? I'm still ropeable the Tigers sh*tshow somehow kicked 9 goals.

I have no doubt you put the exact same sides against each other in a big final, Richmond wins comfortably

 

[Reservoir tiger]

Don't get what, a bit of muck around banter? Geez mate. I know I post in fairly serious, or sarcastic tone a lot of the time but I am just yanking your chain.

Did the lol stuff not register... this is why footys the best.. nothing personal here being said

I bag the shit out of your team...you do the same to mine..

Exactly how it should be

 

[anth_christian]

You realise you’re doing the exact same right..

I wasn't commenting on the process of posting, but the content of your post. For your claim to be true (that my post was analogous to yours), you would have needed to interpret my post as being antagonising. Which was not my intention.

 

[PhatBoy]

I have no doubt you put the exact same sides against each other in a big final, Richmond wins comfortably

Unfortunately the 4 guys in your 22 that day who had ever set foot on a finals field - and ex-Crow Kane Johnson owned 10 of the 17 finals matches the squad boasted - couldn't drag the side back to that hallowed arena to prove their worth that season.

 

[PhatBoy]

Did the lol stuff not register... this is why footys the best.. nothing personal here being said

I bag the sh*t out of your team...you do the same to mine..

Exactly how it should be

My bad, the 'do you not get it' bit made me wonder whether you were taking the piss or not.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Unfortunately the 4 guys in your 22 that day who had ever set foot on a finals field - and ex-Crow Kane Johnson owned 10 of the 17 finals matches the squad boasted - couldn't drag the side back to that hallowed arena to prove their worth that season.

And yet still in big finals against Richmond, Geelong still go to water it's in the clubs DNA

 

[Upgrayedd]

Geelong would have at least one more flag if it wasn't for Scott

He maybe a hugely liked fellow down at the cats, But his coaching decisions are wack. Recruiting they have a huge advantage being located in a great part of Victoria which is highly sought after by some free agents, But

Rohan while I know he's in there for pressure acts, Isnt good enough. His coaching decision of starting the center bounce when the game was getting fierce and physical to not play your best 3 mids in the start was criminal

He doesn't seem to have a plan B, Port pushed Hawkins right to the boundary for every shot and were willing to as well. Hawkins slots 2 of those 0.5 yeah different story. Port dont get pinged for some stupid free klicks which wernt there, also a different story. However the lack of anyone being able to gut run on the counterpunch to create another target when Port purposely pushed Jonas up the ground was not making Port pay when Geelong were able to break the power Zone.

Dangerfield is wasted as well. I think the way Geelong set up their clearances is wrong, It relies too much on blocking for Danger to burst out, I really think he should be winning/Shoveling the ball out, Rather then bursting and kicking under pressure. Menegola/Duncan are the best wing Duo in the game, Use them in that. Back your defenders in.


Call me a salty cats hater, yeah I am. Scott's not up to it. That cats outfit is too good to be 5/17 in finals.

 

[PhatBoy]

And yet still in big finals against Richmond, Geelong still go to water it's in the clubs DNA

Yes the 95 prelim victory mentioned earlier was a classic example.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Yes the 95 prelim victory mentioned earlier was a classic example.

So it was that long ago Geelong were able to beat Richmond in a final, did they even have colour tv back then?

 

[PhatBoy]

So it was that long ago Geelong were able to beat Richmond in a final, did they even have colour tv back then?

I had an attempted shot relating to subbing in 11 year old Gary Ablett Jr for his namesake and still being able to win but it lacked bite so I concede this one

 

[sobrave]

For a start, the Hawthorn home game if it were played away from your home ground where you received 14 frees to 0 in the second half in a close game.
The tigers game where you also enjoyed a massive home crowd umpiring boost. Both those games played at the G with a crowd screaming for home town frees against you instead of for you could have easily had a different result. Dogs game was also close, and could have got a different result at Marvel. That would bring your outright home games down to 3, the same as Geelong, and increase your outright away games to 5, the same as Geelong. Those results go the other way, and it is enough to put Geelong a game plus percentage in front of you. That is ignoring any extra wins Geelong would get from transferring your 3 extra home games to them to provide the switched fixture situation. If those 3 extra home games gave Geelong 3 extra wins, that puts them 4 games and percentage clear of Port. Obviously this is all highly hypothetical, but not outside the bounds of possibility if you swapped each clubs outright home and away games numbers.

Basically your draw compared to teams like Geelong set up your season, and has now got you a home prelim. Vic teams have enjoyed the MCG GF advantage for years, so the finals situation this year is somewhat a swings and roundabouts issue, but there has never been a H&A fixture as lopsided as this one, and Port has been a major beneficiary. I'm not even sure why you are bothering to argue that. Actually that's not true. I am sure. You're laying the groundwork to try to claim any premiership won under such a lopsided draw is completely legitimate and equivalent to a premiership won under a normal fixture situation where all clubs are playing on a much more even playing field. The only hope of that happening is for one of the have-nots of the fixture fallout to get up for a win. If Tigers win tonight it could easily be them, and while their draw was easier than Geelong's it was certainly harder than Port and Brisbane's, so I'd consider that a legitimate flag under the circumstances.

What a joke. So Vic teams can have a rigged system for decades where they get home ground grand final advantage and 5 more home games than interstate clubs and that's no dramas, the boot is on the foot for ONE YEAR and you have a dull about it.

Btw it shouldn't be underestimated that port, Freo, WC and Adelaide were the first teams shoehorned into a hub, as the VFL tried to rig things for the Vic clubs yet again. Unfortunately they turned into a plague state so things didn't quite work out.

Not sure how you balance port's 7 out of 17 home games as the same as Brisbane who basically haven't left home and will get a home GF if they make it..

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Geelong would have at least one more flag if it wasn't for Scott

He maybe a hugely liked fellow down at the cats, But his coaching decisions are wack. Recruiting they have a huge advantage being located in a great part of Victoria which is highly sought after by some free agents, But

Rohan while I know he's in there for pressure acts, Isnt good enough. His coaching decision of starting the center bounce when the game was getting fierce and physical to not play your best 3 mids in the start was criminal

He doesn't seem to have a plan B, Port pushed Hawkins right to the boundary for every shot and were willing to as well. Hawkins slots 2 of those 0.5 yeah different story. Port dont get pinged for some stupid free klicks which wernt there, also a different story. However the lack of anyone being able to gut run on the counterpunch to create another target when Port purposely pushed Jonas up the ground was not making Port pay when Geelong were able to break the power Zone.

Dangerfield is wasted as well. I think the way Geelong set up their clearances is wrong, It relies too much on blocking for Danger to burst out, I really think he should be winning/Shoveling the ball out, Rather then bursting and kicking under pressure. Menegola/Duncan are the best wing Duo in the game, Use them in that. Back your defenders in.


Call me a salty cats hater, yeah I am. Scott's not up to it. That cats outfit is too good to be 5/17 in finals.

His Plan B is Dangerfield forward. In full effect in the final quarter last night when a crucial centre bounce had Atkins and Dalhaus in the middle for Geelong. Dangerfield sat in the forward line and watched Port win the clearance and kick a goal to nail it shut.

Real inspiring stuff from the coach

 

[PhatBoy]

His Plan B is Dangerfield forward. In full effect in the final quarter last night when a crucial centre bounce had Atkins and Dalhaus in the middle for Geelong. Dangerfield sat in the forward line and watched Port win the clearance and kick a goal to nail it shut.

Real inspiring stuff from the coach

The move of Dangerfield co-incided with the comeback to within a kick!!! How hard is it to acknowledge this?

 

[bh90210fan]

There’s only one finals record that will never get matched for the rest of eternity

 

[portly]

They lose in the preliminary final.
lol, it's a merry go round. Same crap.

Wouldn't surprise me if we go out in straight sets.
Too many pea hearts and this club is drinking it's own bath water.
The media praise is absolutely mind boggling.

Not seeing any pea hearts.

Might be correct on the rest.

 

[Ash1337]

Geelong is suffering from an unbalanced list that shows it's cracks when it comes to finals.
Too many older players vs young players.
Only 1 genuine KPF. Ratugolea could of been better choice over Stanley because he can play more of a forward role when not rucking. Rotating Blicavs and Stanley in the ruck hurt them in the forward line.
No big body midfielder other than Dangerfield. Simpson may be that player but they don't play him midfield and wasn't in the team.
No half back flanker with great pace and no winger with pace. Menegola & Duncan are exactly the same type of winger and it causes problems when both play that position. Blicavs needs to play wing to give them a different dynamic but he's playing ruck.
No Full time ruck. Stanley is the best they have but he's only average in the role. The rest are poor.

They also seem to have butchered some of their players by playing them out of position like blicavs who is better as a defender or winger or Dahlhaus who has played the last 2 seasons mainly in the forward line when he's played best as a 50/50 mid/fwd. Simpson being playing in the foward line when clearly he's much better in their midfield.