No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome** Part 4

[Bugs1977]

Respect?
How about respect for the anti-doping rules.

The thing that annoys me is that no one knows what was said to Sammy for him to do the jabbing sledge. There’s no way he would’ve done it unless they provoked him. Sammy and co were masters of the sledge so it must’ve been something pretty untoward for him to go there cause even though he dished out his fair share he always copped it and took it too.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

The thing that annoys me is that no one knows what was said to Sammy for him to do the jabbing sledge. There’s no way he would’ve done it unless they provoked him. Sammy and co were masters of the sledge so it must’ve been something pretty untoward for him to go there cause even though he dished out his fair share he always copped it and took it too.

I don’t think Sammy would have needed provoking - he was a smartarse of the highest order. Just another reason to love the bloke.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Goddard on AFL Tonight saying that Mitchell’s jabbing sledge was ‘laughable’ and that most other players were ‘respectful of the situation’
How do these Kool Aid drinkers think they deserve respect for being drug cheats?!

Goddard is such a flog. More evidence to support right here...

 

[Off The Couch]

Don’t know why the surprise - seems there’s short memories for the charge of “the look of the game”

Also the amount of whinging about Tom Mitchell, Todd Goldstein and the Brownlow. Short memories again - how about the year Fyfe won

 

[Noneedforaname]

That's because it's not a sport anymore, it's light entertainment with betting.

The absurd thing for me is that the umpiring is easily the most random and unaccountable of any sport in the world. Bearing this in mind, when this is increasingly such a factor, why do punters even get involved with it?
If this shit happened in other sports, who'd put up with it? Rugby league fans break out into tears over minor issues. Make mountains outta molehill. Soccer fans would go on a rampage yadda yadda yadda.
Footy followers are conditioned to accept the umpires whistle. It's in our DNA. It's a great thing. But then the players, fans and the very game itself are let down spectacularly by the failures of the current system (regime).

How in the hell the AFL can think the world will accept the game when it can't even decide on rules, let alone enforce them.
To punters, it must appear the most corrupt and unaccountable game on the planet.

 

[smeltitdeltit]

Slobbo crying about the Martin “potential to cause serious injury” like its a new concept!??!

I’m assuming he was as strong on his defence of Cyril’s “attempting to strike” or Hodges punch on Swallow that was uprgraded due “potential to cause injury”??

 

[A Cut Above]

So Richmond will be without Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt & Rance against Port this week. First time in 3 years the club's faced any significant adversity, can't wait to see how they respond.

 

[Gralin]

So Richmond will be without Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt & Rance against Port this week. First time in 3 years the club's faced any significant adversity, can't wait to see how they respond.

First time since 2010 that Hardwick hasn't had at least one of them.
Clarko just coached his first game without any of Hodge, Lewis, Mitchell or Roughead and got the win so......

 

[Bugs1977]

I don’t think Sammy would have needed provoking - he was a smartarse of the highest order. Just another reason to love the bloke.

Yeah he was / is a smartarse but he wouldn’t of gone that far without a reason. That game was chippy AF and I’d really love to know all of what was said but we never will.

 

[Iceman!]

 

[Bugs1977]

First time since 2010 that Hardwick hasn't had at least one of them.
Clarko just coached his first game without any of Hodge, Lewis, Mitchell or Roughead and got the win so......

That list also includes the absence of Tom Mitchell, Burgoyne and Shiel which is quite extraordinary when you think about it.

 

[Noneedforaname]

Glad to see Goddard reminded of the stain he bears. You can't brush, or wash it off son.
Was he due to appear I wondered, or was he roped in because of his association with the original sledge. Nice troll by Fox all the same.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Wayne Carey has done some shitty things but he’s on the money here.

 

[Gralin]

That list also includes the absence of Tom Mitchell, Burgoyne and Shiel which is quite extraordinary when you think about it.

Nah the first four, he's never coached a game without at least one of them playing. Ever.

332 odd games and it's the first time. Got the win too.

No pressure Dimma

 

[Holy Rioli]

That is about the most intelligent thing Duck has ever said.

 

[Bugs1977]

Nah the first four, he's never coached a game without at least one of them playing. Ever.

332 odd games and it's the first time. Got the win too.

No pressure Dimma

I just added the other 3 because it makes it even more impressive. When you consider that Tom and Liam are the next wave to take the reigns and to have them out and still win is unbelievable. Also I associate Silk more so with the group of Hodge / Lewis / Mitchell / Roughie than the new playing group but either way Clarko + Wright have done a fantastic job in rejuvenating our list all with no top 10 picks.

 

[Spursfan]

Good on Duck for calling out this inconsistency. Just switched off those fools on On the Couch trying to justify the below the knees rule.

 

[bumsonseats]

Good on Duck for calling out this inconsistency. Just switched off those fools on On the Couch trying to justify the below the knees rule.

Why do people watch this shite......honestly, you are just enabling them.
The AFL media is full of buffoons.......and then there is David King.

 

[bumsonseats]

Slobbo crying about the Martin “potential to cause serious injury” like its a new concept!??!

I’m assuming he was as strong on his defence of Cyril’s “attempting to strike” or Hodges punch on Swallow that was uprgraded due “potential to cause injury”??

The AFL have backed themselves into a corner with the grading system.
So the MRO has to upgrade one of the criteria to make fit a suitable penalty.
There is no way the impact is medium, and Richmond will challenge the that I am sure.
But ultimately, why can’t the MRO have discretion to add addition weeks to the pure grading on the grounds of the look of the game, or even the potential to cause serious injury when that is warranted.

So the MRO statement would read “intentional, high contact, low impact”.....as it should be, plus one week on account that we don’t want those sort of actions in the game.
Then let Richmond challenge the extra week component and argue that what Martin did was not at all a bad look for the game.

Same outcome - 2 weeks, but the reasoning is more realistic instead of making crap up to get to a desired endstate.
Where do you draw the line on “potential to cause more serious injury”.
Everything has the potential to cause a serious injury......but I didn’t see this clause invoked on Mason Cox last week.

 

[Mercy Seat]

On the Couch last night spent 5 mins talking about how good the Hawks are with their list management, namely trading and late draft picks, only for Jonathan Brown to miss the entire point completely and conclude: “hawks have exploited free agency more than anyone”.

 

[JoeHawk]

On the Couch last night spent 5 mins talking about how good the Hawks are with their list management, namely trading and late draft picks, only for Jonathan Brown to miss the entire point completely and conclude: “hawks have exploited free agency more than anyone”.

Perhaps too many knocks in the head

 

[Threadkilla]

On the Couch last night spent 5 mins talking about how good the Hawks are with their list management, namely trading and late draft picks, only for Jonathan Brown to miss the entire point completely and conclude: “hawks have exploited free agency more than anyone”.

Old cement head has had a few too many head knocks. Only now I see why the AFL are taking concussion so seriously.

 

[JoeHawk]

On another matter.....Really hating the recent pop up advertisements. Any chance the X circle could be made bigger? Lost count how many times I’ve opened these annoying adds when trying to close it

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

The AFL have backed themselves into a corner with the grading system.
So the MRO has to upgrade one of the criteria to make fit a suitable penalty.
There is no way the impact is medium, and Richmond will challenge the that I am sure.
But ultimately, why can’t the MRO have discretion to add addition weeks to the pure grading on the grounds of the look of the game, or even the potential to cause serious injury when that is warranted.

So the MRO statement would read “intentional, high contact, low impact”.....as it should be, plus one week on account that we don’t want those sort of actions in the game.
Then let Richmond challenge the extra week component and argue that what Martin did was not at all a bad look for the game.

Same outcome - 2 weeks, but the reasoning is more realistic instead of making crap up to get to a desired endstate.
Where do you draw the line on “potential to cause more serious injury”.
Everything has the potential to cause a serious injury......but I didn’t see this clause invoked on Mason Cox last week.

See I don't agree with your assessment of the severity of the contact. I feel the contact was at the least medium impact and that on a number of reviews of the impact that Martin is lucky he hit someone with some nuts not to go down and take a fall, much in the same way JOM did last year in a game where he refused to fake flop and fall after being hit in the gob on a couple of occasions. In another world where Martin was to play against Grimes, Dusty would be fecked as Mason Cox brushed Grimes with a feather bump and Grimes stayed down, Dusty sent the bells ringing and the GWS guy stayed up, Dusty hit Grimes like that he would get a month.

Edit, I read your post again and understand that it was more about process and the potential to cause injury clause.
Just in this case Martin indeed could have and probably did cause more injury than what was shown and Cox was very very unlucky to block a diving flopping flog trying to milk more out his contact than was ever there and was never in the position to cause greater injury.

 

[Bugs1977]

On another matter.....Really hating the recent pop up advertisements. Any chance the X circle could be made bigger? Lost count how many times I’ve opened these annoying adds when trying to close it

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