Oppo Camp General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome** Part 5

[QuietB]

I also gave up Murdoch's bullshit propaganda sheets about the same time with a similar effect on my mental health.

There is not one good reason why you would pay that campaigner good money to be told how to think.

Truest thing I’ve ever read

 

[QuietB]

That to me is the most annoying thing about football at the moment - in fact has been so for the last 10 years or so.
3/4th of the media seem to barrack for Essenscum and have unashamedly become their bum boys (and girls).

It's pathetic and really annoying because the Age and Sun seem to alternate articles about this middling struggling side - so that generally one of the papers each morning or every second morning has a nothing spread on Essenscum like the inane and stupid article in today's Sun about Essescum trying to copy Richmond !!

This isn't media - it's just the PR and marketing arm for the bunch of losers - and it's f*cking boring.
I bet you'll see a double page spread from Slobbo by this Saturday.

Apart from that all's good with the world - although there appears to be a bit of flu going around.

If you are selling Essendon you have to sell now. Cause there is nothing left to sell by September

 

[MrPremiership]

If you are selling Essendon you have to sell now. Cause there is nothing left to sell by September

You mean June-ish

 

[rei154]

Could be a long shot, but though Hardwick is an elite small defender, any chance he could use the next 10 weeks to re-calibrate himself back into a small forward? I know he was originally drafted because of his kick and pressure in the forward half- maybe it's time to bring that back! Especially without Minch on the list.

 

[OnTheRocks]

Could be a long shot, but though Hardwick is an elite small defender, any chance he could use the next 10 weeks to re-calibrate himself back into a small forward? I know he was originally drafted because of his kick and pressure in the forward half- maybe it's time to bring that back! Especially without Minch on the list.

Interesting idea and it could get traction depending on how his replacement fits in and if any of the small forwards are performing at the time of his return.

 

[play2win]

Could be a long shot, but though Hardwick is an elite small defender, any chance he could use the next 10 weeks to re-calibrate himself back into a small forward? I know he was originally drafted because of his kick and pressure in the forward half- maybe it's time to bring that back! Especially without Minch on the list.

the thing with Hardwick forward too is that he would absolutely lead the accuracy on goal stats given the chance. his set shot skills are one of the best, wouldn't need many chances to have an impact.
interesting conundrum. calling out Brishawk for an opinion (i.e. critically analyse) on the merits of redeploying 80% disposal efficiency out of the backline to 80% set shot accuracy? would the stats/probabilities/likelihood end up as a benefit for the team?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Could be a long shot, but though Hardwick is an elite small defender, any chance he could use the next 10 weeks to re-calibrate himself back into a small forward? I know he was originally drafted because of his kick and pressure in the forward half- maybe it's time to bring that back! Especially without Minch on the list.

He'll be rehabbing through that period though, it would be hard to train in another position whilst rehabbing.

And let's be clear here - he is NOT a crumbing forward. He played more like Mark Williams in the TAC Cup, which isn't exactly what we need.

 

[Brishawk]

the thing with Hardwick forward too is that he would absolutely lead the accuracy on goal stats given the chance. his set shot skills are one of the best, wouldn't need many chances to have an impact.
interesting conundrum. calling out Brishawk for an opinion (i.e. critically analyse) on the merits of redeploying 80% disposal efficiency out of the backline to 80% set shot accuracy? would the stats/probabilities/likelihood end up as a benefit for the team?

Getting better quality shots is more important than having a single accurate kicker. Shorten the distance to goal and everyone kicks with a high percentage

I’d be happy for him to go forward if it meant also spending time in the middle. But he is a great defender so happy for him there too

 

[MrPremiership]

James Hird's son Tom has just signed as a Category B rookie for Essendon, as he was previously playing soccer in Netherlands.

Nothing says Cat B rookies better than the son of a 250 game, premiership winning, brownlow medallist.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

James Hird's son Tom has just signed as a Category B rookie for Essendon, as he was previously playing soccer in Netherlands.

Nothing says Cat B rookies better than the son of a 250 game, premiership winning, brownlow medallist.

Feel for the kid. Must have got a fair bit of grief in the schoolyard. Probably supports the Bombres too.

 

[Brant]

Feel for the kid. Must have got a fair bit of grief in the schoolyard. Probably supports the Bombres too.

Actually, I think he'd have been fine in the school yard.

Aussies don't take a hard line against Aussie drug cheats, only international ones & even then, really only the non-English speaking ones.

If the rest of society is anything to go by, he'd have received heaps of sympathy & understanding, for no real reason at all.

 

[cryptor]

If the rest of society is anything to go by, he'd have received heaps of sympathy & understanding, for no real reason at all.

Well given there would have undoubtedly been people somewhere (even if just online) who gave him grief about it I'd say the sympathy & understanding would've been for the fact that he didn't actually do anything.

 

[A Cut Above]

Cats cop massive whack for Total Player Payment breach

Geelong receives a huge financial sanction after an administrative blunder

www.afl.com.au

Handbaggers have been cheating the salary cap for EIGHT YEARS but Steve Hocking gives his old club a slap on the wrist for it.

 

[Pessimistic]

Was the weapon chief spreadsheet author at two clubs?

 

[Brishawk]

Cats cop massive whack for Total Player Payment breach

Geelong receives a huge financial sanction after an administrative blunder

www.afl.com.au

Handbaggers have been cheating the salary cap for EIGHT YEARS but Steve Hocking gives his old club a slap on the wrist for it.

That is next level big brother propaganda to suggest $40,000 fine is a massive whack!

edit: for low level incidents for players they would attract a $3000 fine for the first offence, $5000 for the second and $8000 for every incident after that.
That would result in a $48,000 fine. So the fine is less than that for wrestling 8 times. What a joke this entertainment product is

 

[Brishawk]

What is the bet this relates to the reporting of third party deals?

 

[A Cut Above]

That is next level big brother propaganda to suggest $40,000 fine is a massive whack!

edit: for low level incidents for players they would attract a $3000 fine for the first offence, $5000 for the second and $8000 for every incident after that.
That would result in a $48,000 fine. So the fine is less than that for wrestling 8 times. What a joke this entertainment product is

Mate if it was Hawthorn in this position you just know SHocking would've gone balls to the wall about it and would've whipped up Handbagger media lapdogs Whateley, Ling, Bartel, Hudson, Derwayne etc. to justify giving us a huge whack.

Its been abundantly clear for years in this league there are rules for some clubs and a different set for others. No wonder my passion for the game has largely vaporized these days.

 

[Black Hawk]

What is the bet this relates to the reporting of third party deals?

We may never know.

Imagine what else is/has been going on down there that hasn't been 'self reported'.

 

[A Cut Above]

What is the bet this relates to the reporting of third party deals?

They have an 'arrangement' with CottonOn right? Or perhaps you're hinting at deals with Frank Costa and his band of (totally not Sicilian Mafia!) fruiterers.

All I know is if ever Hawthorn were ever caught going over the cap, even by pennies on the dollar, I'd expect mustachios to be twirled at head office followed by triumphant cries of "aha!".

 

[Brant]

Well given there would have undoubtedly been people somewhere (even if just online) who gave him grief about it I'd say the sympathy & understanding would've been for the fact that he didn't actually do anything.

I thought it was pretty clear that my issue was with stupid Australians; their malaise toward our own drug cheats & that it went 1x step further with the scum, to the extent where a large portion of the public actually champion their cause & defend them.

If not clear, my issue was with stupid Australians; their malaise toward our own drug cheats & that it went 1x step further with the scum, to the extent where a large portion of the public actually champion their cause & defend them.

 

[Cleavy]

too many loopholes in the salary cap, whether it's 3rd party payments/sponsorships, or being able to pay 105% of the cap.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

8 years ago hey?
hmm..i wondering who was at the helm when these SHocking errors occurred?

 

[Mississippi]

You mean June-ish

But that’s the problem.

it doesn’t matter where Essenscum finishes - in june or September or wherever.
The simple fact is that they could win the wooden spoon for 5 consecutive years and they’d still get the same coverage every second day in the Age and Sun - because the bum boys and girls in the media are absolutely besotted by them.

Today we had half page stories in both papers that they may be thinking of playing a game in California in 2022. Seriously, a small byline perhaps but not major articles.

 

[Pessimistic]

8 years ago hey?
hmm..i wondering who was at the helm when these SHocking errors occurred?

did any journo even hint at asking the obvious question?

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

did any journo even hint at asking the obvious question?

Pretty obvious you would think
but hey they rolled out the other lackey Andrew Dillon as they do when all else fails

it really is so predictable and no wonder Jeff is continually sticking it to them