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My idea of intervention for young people, is not by lumping them in with other crims or with people on a similar path in halfway houses. They need to be offered another path, or shocked on to another one, taken out of their situation and moved somewhere else if they will go, new start, different company, school and/or a job. Given a purpose.

My brother said some of them do work on themselves and actually want to change but once they are back in their environment with their usual influences, no prospects again, it doesn’t take long to reoffend.

Even in the prison setting, the younger ones learn even more criminal behaviour from the more seasoned ones.

You’re a product of your environment I guess?
 
My brother said some of them do work on themselves and actually want to change but once they are back in their environment with their usual influences, no prospects again, it doesn’t take long to reoffend.

Even in the prison setting, the younger ones learn even more criminal behaviour from the more seasoned ones.

You’re a product of your environment I guess?
Young boys everywhere are trying to find their place in life and fitting in means going along with the group, following a leader, and “proving” themselves. They may indulge in risky behaviour, stealing cars, shoplifting, breaking into houses, vandalism. Carrying weapons is next level; probably they have gone through the more “minor” misdemeanours, and often. This is the point when consequences need to be more intense, not the usual slap on the wrist. They should be isolated from the destructive peer group, placed in community service activities, eg cleaning up graffiti, helping charity work (supervised of course), given the opportunity to experience other aspects of society that they have clearly missed out on. Possibly they could be rewarded in a small way if they display good behaviour and make a contribution to the community. Recognition and appreciation would go a long way and may be the difference in the long run.
 
My brother said some of them do work on themselves and actually want to change but once they are back in their environment with their usual influences, no prospects again, it doesn’t take long to reoffend.

Even in the prison setting, the younger ones learn even more criminal behaviour from the more seasoned ones.

You’re a product of your environment I guess?

Even well in to adulthood and with a good job, I found it difficult to break away from friends in my immediate neighbourhood when I felt that I needed to. To do it easily and without drama is almost a skill.
 

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Wow, do they really think increasing maximum sentence for car theft from 7 years to 10 years is going to make any difference at all!

I think the best options include more use of GPS tracking devices being worn (and harsh sentences for removing them), a presumption against bail in certain circumstances (such as previous breach(es) ), and repeat violent offenders being jailed indefinitely until they can demonstrate they are no longer a risk to the community.

Thugs living down the street & families unaware of the potential danger is at the heart of the Lovell case.
 

the latest example:​

Three teens arrested after fatal stabbing in Melbourne’s north-west​

A man has died and three teenagers have been arrested following a stabbing in Melbourne’s north-west overnight, while three people have been charged with murder in a separate incident.
Emergency services were called to St Albans on Friday night after reports a man had been stabbed during an altercation with a group of men.


There's more:

Two Men Fatally Stabbed In Separate Melbourne Incidents​

In a second incident which occured on Bourke Street in Docklands, around 3:20am, two men suffered stab wounds during a fight.

Both men were taken to hospital, where one man died soon after. The second victim is in critical condition.






Nothing to see here, move right along.
 
3 times got young fellas trail-bike from locked shed.
3 times got it back.
One time they got in the house and all they took was 2 jars of coins,little kids.
Don't even worry about calling the cops.
Got insurance,no CCTV.

Years ago I experienced what i was told later is common.

Lived on a property with two sides facing a park , so access into our hidden yard from over the fence.
Stole electrical equipment, came back and broke in again around the time that they knew the insurance company would have replaced it.
Years later i don't care about the video camera, but the tape of family memories that was in it was lost, and the tape of similar memories i put in the new one , to see how it worked, was also lost.
At least when he came back the second time, i'm pretty sure he had a much harder time breaking in and possibly hurt himself.
 

the latest example:​

Three teens arrested after fatal stabbing in Melbourne’s north-west​

A man has died and three teenagers have been arrested following a stabbing in Melbourne’s north-west overnight, while three people have been charged with murder in a separate incident.
Emergency services were called to St Albans on Friday night after reports a man had been stabbed during an altercation with a group of men.


There's more:

Two Men Fatally Stabbed In Separate Melbourne Incidents​

In a second incident which occured on Bourke Street in Docklands, around 3:20am, two men suffered stab wounds during a fight.

Both men were taken to hospital, where one man died soon after. The second victim is in critical condition.






Nothing to see here, move right along.
Australia is developing a serious issue with knife related crime. My 13 year old son has just finished his first year of high school and casually speaks of most boys in year 9 carrying knives at school. Everyone has one to protect themselves from everyone else who has one to protect themselves from everyone who has one. Vicious cycle.
 
Australia is developing a serious issue with knife related crime. My 13 year old son has just finished his first year of high school and casually speaks of most boys in year 9 carrying knives at school. Everyone has one to protect themselves from everyone else who has one to protect themselves from everyone who has one. Vicious cycle.
Have you informed the school?
 
Australia is developing a serious issue with knife related crime. My 13 year old son has just finished his first year of high school and casually speaks of most boys in year 9 carrying knives at school. Everyone has one to protect themselves from everyone else who has one to protect themselves from everyone who has one. Vicious cycle.
Yep my 13 yo was on the public bus to school and a kid pulled out a knife.
 
Australia is developing a serious issue with knife related crime. My 13 year old son has just finished his first year of high school and casually speaks of most boys in year 9 carrying knives at school. Everyone has one to protect themselves from everyone else who has one to protect themselves from everyone who has one. Vicious cycle.
Stupid thing is that knives don't protect anyone at all.
One kid has a knife, one kid gets stabbed.
2 kids have knives , 2 kids get stabbed.
 
Stupid thing is that knives don't protect anyone at all.
One kid has a knife, one kid gets stabbed.
2 kids have knives , 2 kids get stabbed.
They’re young teenagers. They think they’re invincible; with a knife more so. It must come as an awful shock to discover it isn’t so.
 

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Anyone know or heard about the Summerfield 6 ?
Did a search and couldnt find anything on here .

Stumbled across a mini doco on youtube the other day , never heard of them before .....shocking

Never heard of it before but will look it up.
 
My brother said some of them do work on themselves and actually want to change but once they are back in their environment with their usual influences, no prospects again, it doesn’t take long to reoffend.

Even in the prison setting, the younger ones learn even more criminal behaviour from the more seasoned ones.

You’re a product of your environment I guess?

I often wonder if it would be good if they could go and work on a farm in the middle of no-where for a couple of years. Just to break the cycle.
Of course that would be pretty tricky logistically.
 
He's only whacking the cars that are speeding up trying to get away from him o_O
Mate if I’m driving and a bloke comes at me waving a machete I’m doing everything to protect myself and my property hence I would run him over . I would tell the police I feared for my life reckon I would be okay.
 
Two Men Fatally Stabbed In Separate Melbourne Incidents

Happy new year:
Three teens were stabbed in a brawl with knives and bats in Docklands, while a man is fighting for his life after he was attacked outside a Toorak nightclub in the early hours of the new year.

 

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