Getting sick of seeing replays of Nicknat's ruckwork

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Three times in the space of one minute they cut to a shot of Nic Nat sitting on the bench drinking water/getting a massage. I understand he is a good player, sure show replays of his ruck work and explosiveness, but why do they need to keep showing him sitting on the bench?
 
Spikey said:
If keeps on doing taps like the one he did in the 3rd to LeCras then I say don't stop showing them.
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Don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but he didn't actually get a hand to that one. It was the third man up who inadvertently palmed it to the WCE player.
 

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Good player, very good start to his career, but agree with the OP - stop the endless media w**kfest.

WOW, a great tap to set up a goal, but unfortunately I've been lucky enough to watch Brendan Lade set up goals with perfect tap work for a decade.

Media, if you want amazing, THIS is amazing (yes, it's not AFL, but the point remains...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfK8e2tO8sE&feature=related
 
The Chiefton said:
P.S Nic Naitanui is taller than Kobe Bryant.
I guarantee that he could jump as high if not higher than most blokes in the NBA.
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You're probably right in that most players in the NBA can't jump, but impressive as he is maybe NicNat should start with the AFL first.

STANDING VERTICAL JUMP
Nicholas Naitanui 78cm
Record: Trent Croad 83cm (1997)
RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP
Nicholas Naitanui 102cm
Tied Jared Brennan's record (2002)

For comparison, Michael Jordan tipped the heights at 121cm (freak!), with Vince Carter and LeBron James easily clearing 110cm.
 
Damon_3388 said:
If you compared players 6'6" and above in both the AFL and the NBA, I'd say the NBA players would come out on top in both the quickness (20-30m) and speed (100-200m) stakes.



I'm mainly referring to players in both sports who are 6'6" and above. In that respect, I'd say NBA athletes are mostly superior in areas such as vertical leap and agility.



If anything, the freedom of movement (particularly when in possession of the ball) should afford footballers more scope to display their speed and agility. Admittedly though, the outdoor playing conditions can be detrimental to such displays. Still, the limited playing area, ball movement rules, speed of play and (on average) larger size of the athletes IMO make the body control, coordination and agility displayed by NBA players that much more amazing.



I didn't say Naitanui isn't special. For football, he is. Even in basketball terms, his vertical leap and straight-line quickness are very impressive. But the average NBA player is around 200cm and 100kg, so putting things in perspective, the "he shouldn't be able to do those things at his size" calls that get bandied about are over-the-top IMO. 6'6"-6'7" agile, quick athletes are pretty much a dime a dozen in basketball, particularly in the US. There's a ton of athletes that size running around in minor leagues in the US and around the world, and many don't make it as stars because they lack the specific basketball skills (particularly shooting ability). But in terms of areas such as agility, body control, coordination, and (most times) speed, quickness and vertical leap, they make big men in our sport look very average athletically.

The point is, if many footy viewers (particularly older viewers) weren't so insular, they'd realise there are special athletes in other sports who are doing just as many amazing things (if not more) at the same body size as Naitanui. That's not to downplay Naitanui's work. He's a heck of an athlete and he's great to watch on the footy field. It's just that (and this will sound quite jaded) I've seen athleticism like his on display before many times in other sports.
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Right on. He'd be one of the best athletic specimen we've seen at AFL level, however the NBA athletes and many other basketballers in Europe would eat him athletically for breakfast. Naita wouldn't be athletic enough to compete with the NBA players.
 
crowsarethebest said:
Right on. He'd be one of the best athletic specimen we've seen at AFL level, however the NBA athletes and many other basketballers in Europe would eat him athletically for breakfast. Naita wouldn't be athletic enough to compete with the NBA players.
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Pure drivel.....alot easier looking athletic on a 20m hardcourt.

Who cares about Basketball...crap game. Has nothin on AFL.
 
He did some excellent things tonight, a few WOW moments! That said though, by halftime I was a bit over hearing 'Naitinui!...' every couple of seconds. The way Harley and Cometti were going you'd be thinking he was the only one on the field.
 
silk said:
Clueless!!!

But in all fairness, on tonight performance he should at least get the RS nom this week.
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No I think athletically he would stack up well against alot of NBA players, that said guys like LeBron, Jordan and Bryant are an unfair and pretty damn flattering comparison considering how truly amazing they are.

Jordan is one of the greatest sports stars ever, so he hardly provides a base line for NBA athleticism.
 
I'm sure if Naitanui's fitness regime was tailored to the game of Basketball he could match it with NBA players, just as NBA players could if they were trained to play AFL. I'm speaking purely about athleticism here, of course.
 

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DivideandMultiply said:
No I think athletically he would stack up well against alot of NBA players, that said guys like LeBron, Jordan and Bryant are an unfair and pretty damn flattering comparison considering how truly amazing they are.

Jordan is one of the greatest sports stars ever, so he hardly provides a base line for NBA athleticism.
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Fair enough, but if you compare him to someone average like... Jakim Noah from the bulls, I still think he would struggle. He would probabaly be average at best in the NBA, but then nba players couldn't handle getting smashed into the ground only to get up and keep running I would say.
 
He could have kicked goal of the century if he took a shot on goal after he roved his own ruck, burst away from the pack running towards 50...FREAK.
 
silk said:
Fair enough, but if you compare him to someone average like... Jakim Noah from the bulls, I still think he would struggle. He would probabaly be average at best in the NBA, but then nba players couldn't handle getting smashed into the ground only to get up and keep running I would say.
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Agreed. Though I still think his vertical jump and speed over 20-30 m would compare well.

Remembering he will probably fill out to a larger size than quite a lot of NBA players of a similar height.

Two different styles of game, especially the contested part so they exact different demands from their respective players.
 
Honestly, he plays an exciting game of football. Stop whinging... The commentary is bad enough full stop, just turn it off and you can enjoy his game as much or as little as you'd like without the self-indulgent commentary we're served up.

I love watching him play, especially in a season where we're particularly crap - it gives you hope that something will happen.
 
PowerForGood said:
You're probably right in that most players in the NBA can't jump, but impressive as he is maybe NicNat should start with the AFL first.

STANDING VERTICAL JUMP
Nicholas Naitanui 78cm
Record: Trent Croad 83cm (1997)
RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP
Nicholas Naitanui 102cm
Tied Jared Brennan's record (2002)

For comparison, Michael Jordan tipped the heights at 121cm (freak!), with Vince Carter and LeBron James easily clearing 110cm.
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Also have to add in things like Lebron weighs a poultry 124 kilos If NN ever gets that big god help us lol and Jordon played at around 99kgs
 
DivideandMultiply said:
Agreed. Though I still think his vertical jump and speed over 20-30 m would compare well.

Remembering he will probably fill out to a larger size than quite a lot of NBA players of a similar height.

Two different styles of game, especially the contested part so they exact different demands from their respective players.
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Hard to compare the two, but in pure athleticism I think basketball is underratted by aussie rules fans, and I think a lot of aussie rules like to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to comparisons. The fact is both sports now, are kinda similiar. They are both about working hard for the ball, trying to execute the fast break, and looking for the cutter for an easy shot. The fact that afl fans and teams are always talking about fastest players over 20m also supports this. I feel like people always dish out on basketball because they dont' get it.
 
DivideandMultiply said:
LeBron is a giant.

Also an absolute freak, amazing how anyone can be so athletic and skilled yet so massive.
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What is stop afl players from doing this though? Seriously some of the NBA players are huge yet seriously fit. Why can't AFL players but bigger. I can see NicNat being the first of many players who are massive units who can run like the wind, and I think the game would be better for it.
 
silk said:
Hard to compare the two, but in pure athleticism I think basketball is underratted by aussie rules fans, and I think a lot of aussie rules like to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to comparisons. The fact is both sports now, are kinda similiar. They are both about working hard for the ball, trying to execute the fast break, and looking for the cutter for an easy shot. The fact that afl fans and teams are always talking about fastest players over 20m also supports this. I feel like people always dish out on basketball because they dont' get it.
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Oh no I get it.

But basketball also requires players to physically develop and prepare for some different attributes, thats why some comparisons are a bit unfair.
 
silk said:
What is stop afl players from doing this though? Seriously some of the NBA players are huge yet seriously fit. Why can't AFL players but bigger. I can see NicNat being the first of many players who are massive units who can run like the wind, and I think the game would be better for it.
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Well we can sort of if we have the right individuals but..... we will have to reduce the level of physical intensity.

As the speed of the game has increased, we are already seeing an increase in dangerous collisions, also I wouldn't be suprised if we see an increase in injuries.

There are also differences in requirements for fitness, the size of grounds and surface and you cannot completely annul their effects on football .

I think AFL will find a natural middle ground where we have players like Naitanui who are that athletically dominant, but also still maintain the harder and more dour types.
 

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