Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Turbocat]

I agree with this and i want to persist with him but hes not a great shot for goal whereas he has a lot of attributes of a good ruck if he can build a tank. You also have to factor in the list needs over player needs and with stanley 30 and injury prone that might be where we need him most.

I think you are being kind.. and unlike some , I dont think he is that good a kick around the ground either. Leans back awfully. Its potentially a career killer. He should spend some of his own money on a coach.

 

[Turbocat]

Look he can ruck 5 minutes here and there to chop out stanley if guys like hendo and kolo can hold up on the talls as we rarely play 2 rucks anyway. But if stanley is injured and he has to ruck there for weeks it kills our structure. Its the only weak area of the list as jenkins is a better forward than a ruck. Its why if Cameron comes i think we need to train esava as a ruck in case stanley is injured and we need to go that way. Id still look to trade a backup ruck in personally (depends who we can get and what our cap can afford).

How good? How old? This off season has the potential to be a meat market. Phillips at Coll told he is free to look around. Hannan at Melb.. and there will be others ..and my bet a couple of fringe rucks...Basketballer as Rookie B? ... I wonder if there any state comp rucks that we like 20-22..

 

[you pick one]

Yeah, but the way TBone is playing he could still do another 2-3 years. Will Sav want to wait that long?

Will the Sav come good in that time?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

We should only put our eggs in the Carlton basket if they are offering overs.

So something like 13 and 16/19 for 7, 27 and future second otherwise it is best to keep options open.

If we do that swap with Carlton we have someone in mind at pick 7 who we don't think will last to our first pick. Otherwise it wouldn't be worth losing a 1st round pick for to move to the middle of the second round. Wells would have a fair idea by the middle of trade week who he thinks is going where in the first half a dozen picks.

 

[BigCat1]

We should only put our eggs in the Carlton basket if they are offering overs.

So something like 13 and 16/19 for 7, 27 and future second otherwise it is best to keep options open.

There is no way they’d do that deal

 

[Gunf]

If we do that swap with Carlton we have someone in mind at pick 7 who we don't think will last to our first pick. Otherwise it wouldn't be worth losing a 1st round pick for to move to the middle of the second round. Wells would have a fair idea by the middle of trade week who he thinks is going where in the first half a dozen picks.

I agree and that is why i would prefer to take our picks to draft night and if the player is slipping try and trade up to him.Was just suggesting that if we do that trade with Carlton we would need overs since it actually hinders us/gives us less options.

 

[you pick one]

The only relevant question to my point is would Higgins make us a better chance of a flag?

Obviously,that's why every player is listed or delisted,I guess it will come down to do I put another $100 in that slot machine chasing the big one,weighing up risk and reward,

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think you are being kind.. and unlike some , I dont think he is that good around the ground either. Leans back awfully. Its potentially a career killer. He should spend some of his own money on a coach.

I still think he brings some really good afl attributes i just think if he cant improve his goalkicking he needs to make it in another position..bit like walker was good at everything except goalkicking..ends up becoming a better defender than a forward..etc..if we bring cameron in we will have a plan for sav.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If we do that swap with Carlton we have someone in mind at pick 7 who we don't think will last to our first pick. Otherwise it wouldn't be worth losing a 1st round pick for to move to the middle of the second round. Wells would have a fair idea by the middle of trade week who he thinks is going where in the first half a dozen picks.

In a normal year yes but this is a harder year to predict the draft order as half the kids havent played...hence why i prefer live trading.

 

[goyoucatters]

I think you are being kind.. and unlike some , I dont think he is that good around the ground either. Leans back awfully. Its potentially a career killer. He should spend some of his own money on a coach.

It's a massive issue for him, I agree. Might get away with it if he is simply shaping to play predominantly as a ruck. But there's no way he can hold down a permanent KPF role with such an unreliable routine.

In terms of his own coach, he should put down the dollars and get Matthew Lloyd on board to sort him out. In the end, the only predictable element of his kicking action at the moment is how unpredictable it is. If he became confident and composed with his routine, he could be a massive presence on our forward line for many years to come.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Id trade up for Thilthorpe or McDonald but honestly think they will go top 5 now and hard to see how we get picks that high without getting reamed in a trade, happy to keep our picks.

 

[Commando]

Just on Higgins, and to less of an extent Steven
You are getting the services of a quality AFL footballer
IF they become fringe best 22 it means our development system is working wonders
IF they are keeping our youngsters out it gives them something to aspire to
Nothing wrong with 30-40 games of VFL apprenticeship

 

[strauchnyy]

I think the player wells would want is DGB At 7

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Just on Higgins, and to less of an extent Steven
You are getting the services of a quality AFL footballer
IF they become fringe best 22 it means our development system is working wonders
IF they are keeping our youngsters out it gives them something to aspire to
Nothing wrong with 30-40 games of VFL apprenticeship

Kids are full of entitlement these days. They're not willing to wait around that long.

 

[Commando]

Considering he was a late starter to the game wouldn’t Ruck be more Esava go than CHF?
At least a Stanley type who roams forward of the ball

 

[Commando]

Kids are full of entitlement these days. They're not willing to wait around that long.

this is true

 

[strauchnyy]

Considering he was a late starter to the game wouldn’t Ruck be more Esava go than CHF?
At least a Stanley type who roams forward of the ball

I think he’s much better suited to CHF

 

[GeelongFTW]

Maybe. Cameron can't ruck, Taylor won't be there next year so Blicavs may not have the freedom to ruck either.

Hawkins into ruck like it's 09.

 

[Two Planks]

Hawkins into ruck like it's 09.

Jumped way too early, like Corey McKernan

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

yeah yeah ... im really really sorry .......... I got caught.

Exactly what I was about to write.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

I think you are being kind.. and unlike some , I dont think he is that good around the ground either. Leans back awfully. Its potentially a career killer. He should spend some of his own money on a coach.

I agree with that - and im a Sav fan

Best example was that nightmare Rich game in the 3rd qtr - he got the ball about 65 metres from Geel goal - on the flank - there were 2 Geel players in the goal square unopposed - kick it to them - then certain Geel goal

However instead he kicked this loopy skyscraping thing - and the only thing which bailed out the kick - was Jarvis took a terrific one handed mark ( but missed the goal )

Sav had no awareness in that situation - and he had all the time in the world - there were spare unopposed Geel jumpers in front of him - but he didnt see them somehow

 

[Gaz is back]

Will the Sav come good in that time?

Doubtful... He 10% awesome and 90% poor

 

[cats_09]

I think you are being kind.. and unlike some , I dont think he is that good around the ground either. Leans back awfully. Its potentially a career killer. He should spend some of his own money on a coach.

There's times he also seems to lack game awareness - obviously spent his first year with us playing VFL, but not sure how much VFL he's played since his senior debut. We've seen in the past it can aid in development to give a youngster a taste of senior exposure before going back to the VFL to work on various areas of their game, but not sure we really did that with Ratugolea

There's some who seem to enjoy mocking Blicavs & running patterns, but that's an area Ratugolea could improve on especially when playing forward - if the ball is kicked in front of him then he goes ok, but it's about being dangerous without the ball, creating space for other forwards & not letting his opponent just drop off him

Then there's also getting back off the mark quicker to look for options - perfect example was the 3rd quarter against the Tigers; took a mark 60/70 metres from goal, an open forward line with space for Hawkins to lead into. Ratugolea took time to get back over the mark, to look for options and then kicked it to a kinda dangerous spot and Jarvis then took a really good mark to have a shot on goal. But if he was quicker he should have been able to hit Hawkins on the lead

Just feels like with some of those things are better worked on in the VFL rather than hoping it just clicks at senior level

 

[BORIS332]

I think the player wells would want is DGB At 7

Looks to be one of the safest bets in the draft.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Looks very much like Cameron wants Geelong, now what is the cost?