-
AFLW 2024 - Round 4 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II
- Thread starter cats_09
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
I wouldn't pay any attention to Kane Cornes. He is not well-regarded at PAFC.
If Sav goes into the ND and Port is happy to use #25 on him in it... Surely they end up adding more to the offer to negate the risk of it all going pear-shaped and them missing out altogether.
#25 is aleady goners in there mind in getting him in a trade or ND.
I can't see them not adding a bit more to make it an absolute sure thing... not to mention to actually make Sav feel like they want him.
There is lots of time until the draft and if they don't get the trade done so many things can happen and change.
I do expect a deal will get done... But if it doesn't I actually think Port has let Sav down massively.
We are copping heat for not trading a player we want because people see the trade as "fair"... how about Port actually get some of the players they want over the line.
#25 is aleady goners in there mind in getting him in a trade or ND.
I can't see them not adding a bit more to make it an absolute sure thing... not to mention to actually make Sav feel like they want him.
There is lots of time until the draft and if they don't get the trade done so many things can happen and change.
I do expect a deal will get done... But if it doesn't I actually think Port has let Sav down massively.
We are copping heat for not trading a player we want because people see the trade as "fair"... how about Port actually get some of the players they want over the line.
A lot of players have moved so there is some market
I'm confident we have returning players that missed large parts of this year to bring in, just worried it's not as much as others
Vdubs
Hall of Famer
I'd be confident if Port don't get the Sav trade, he stays with us, rather than go to the draft. That's a win for us.
Big Blue Evil
Draftee
I find this whole trade period interesting. Where we are being touted as being stubborn and obtuse (mainly by our mate Kano) for holding out for what we believe Sav is worth, what the hell is Port doing? They've had 4 blokes (Sav, BZT, Sweet and Soldo) come out and say they want in but Port don't want to give up anything resembling the player's value in return. Maybe Port are the problem here instead of us?
- Jun 19, 2006
- 11,132
- 21,773
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Can offer them pick 119 as part of the deal?I feel '119' more than covers that for another few decades
None of those players are of the same calibre as last year. There's a reason that Sav is the most talked about player this trade period.
To be totally fair, there's probably a domino effect at play. Get pick X as part of one deal and we'll immediately turn it around for another deal, etc.
Would make sense for them to hold out for something extra from Essendon for BZT/Duursma deal, then immediately give it to us as part of the Esava deal.
There is no doubt that the Domino effect is a thing.
Essendon have done ok this trade period... Goldy for fre, McKay for free, Gresham for free, If they actually do want Duursma just pay up and get the party started.
Not that they owe us, Port or anyone anything though... Just stating that they are well ahead this trade period.
If they are holding things up then they should be copping heat... not us.
- Sep 11, 2006
- 7,892
- 17,450
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Not being smart but what’s north got to do with it
Or have I missed something?
That North would intentionally screw PA over by taking Esava in the draft out of pure spite, I assume.....
- Sep 19, 2017
- 221
- 367
- AFL Club
- Geelong
And which game changing superstars have we missed on in your opinion?
Big Blue Evil
Draftee
Yeah fair call. Would really depend on what they value the most as well. Should it get down to an hour before the close of the trade period and nothing has happened, then they will need to make something happen otherwise they end up with nothing
Yeah he is a Charlie Curnow type imo...
How good he can be, only time will tell, but he is clearly built and plays similar to Curnow from what I have seen.
Whilst he is no monster there is nothing wrong with that in today's modern game.
rocker_oz33
TheBrownDog
Players that I wouldn't have minded on the cats list
Stephens
Doedee
Jordon
No stars but depth and role players, again not saying we've missed out but seeing Swans especially target specific needs makes me wonder what the cats plans are
Stephens
Doedee
Jordon
No stars but depth and role players, again not saying we've missed out but seeing Swans especially target specific needs makes me wonder what the cats plans are
- May 14, 2012
- 8,230
- 12,993
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Power offering Richmond 41 and FR2.
rocker_oz33
TheBrownDog
rocker_oz33
TheBrownDog
- Feb 12, 2017
- 18,428
- 48,723
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Haven't landed any of those four blokes yet either. They'll likely all get done but yep, let's not pretend they've been super magnanimous with their dealings so far. Old mate Kane would rather have people believe it's all of Geelong, Richmond, Footscray and Essendon holding things up rather than his little darlings who just so happen to be the common denominator.
To play players we already have in positions of need? Perhaps recruit DFA's like Bianco, or draft mature agers like Van De Heuvel as defensive cover?
As it stands, next year we'll have all of these young players to give decent gametime to, without bringing in list cloggers for picks we don't have, like Stephens or Jordon (Doedee the only one I agree on, but we are stacked for medium defenders and he wasn't interested in us):
Jhye Clark
Tanner Bruhn
Mitch Knevitt
Ollie Henry
Oisin Mullin
Shannon Neale
Ollie Dempsey
Toby Conway
Ted Clohesy
Pick 8
*****************
People keep forgetting we did our work in '21 and '22 via the draft and trade periods, so bringing in more players that pushes them further down the order, is just a waste. We rate these kids highly and there's a lot of them now + a lot of good veterans still on the list.
After last year, this trade period was always going to be extremely quiet. We traded out of this draft completely except for the 1st round, and brought in 4 players we thought would be important in our future build - Clark, Bowes, Bruhn and O. Henry.
Our list without bringing in anyone this trade period, is still actually pretty deep with the young talent we have high hopes for. At a minimum, this is what I would see as the club's outlook:
B: Bews, SDK, J. Henry
HB: Stewart, Kolo, Zuthrie
C: Holmes, T. Atkins, Bowes
FO: Stanley, Danger, C. Guthrie
HF: O. Henry, J. Cameron, Miers
F: Rohan, Hawkins, Stengle
INT: Blics, Close, Duncan, Tuohy
Sub: Bruhn
Depth -
O'Connor
Parfitt
Knevitt
Dempsey
S. Neale
Conway
J. Clark
Mullin
Clohesy
Pick 8 (if we keep it)
So 33 players over the course of the year who could fit into 23 spots. Adding more speculative depth onto that list just costs other players who we have higher hopes for internally.
All in the AFL world are so used to us being 'active' - including our own supporters - that they forget we absolutely dominated trade period last year, so a down year this year is inevitable.
TL; DR: Rather us bring in late speculative picks for very little cap, and do nothing else in such a crap draft/trade year, instead of bringing in more expensive players for picks we don't have, who might not even be better than the developing kids we already have.
Last edited:
I read an assessment by someone (can't remember who), that said Caddy was fearless last year, flying into packs and so on. Apparently after he fractured his leg he lost that aggression.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
