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Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II
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Sav for pick 25 is about correct in an open market
However if you go next door and offer to buy the house from the guy over the fence you will need to pay overs to have him agree
Port are wanting to take a guy from us who we would ideally like to keep so they need to pay over
I doubt any club is spending $3mil just to spite another club. In the very, very unlikely scenario that Esava goes to the draft and North take him, it would purely be because they have the cap space and think he'd significantly improve their side.
But he's not contracted. If he doesn't want to be with us, then he can walk to the draft where he can go to Port anyway.
Pick 25 for Sav is fair.
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Shadow's team is very yesterday. If that lot plays round 1 we're living in the past. Surely Bruhn starts and 2 or 3 other younger blokes get a gig. Moreover we'll probably find that several players are not ready for Rd. 1 - more likely to be older chaps.
The oldest Premiership combo is not getting getting any younger. In fact as Jack Dyer famously said they're "older than they've ever been before."
The oldest Premiership combo is not getting getting any younger. In fact as Jack Dyer famously said they're "older than they've ever been before."
If North were sitting back thinking "If Port don't get the trade done will we ramp up a move to get Sav after the trade deadline" the best thing for them to do is to act as if they are not interested in him at all and let Port think they can get him in the ND or even PSD.
As soon as the trade deadline is up North say... "hey Sav, we love you and are willing to pay you that contract Port was... Feel free to nominate the ND because we will absolutely grab you with one of our late firsts".
Clearly that would get back to Port and Port could either trade up inside one of those picks (which wouldn't happen) or call the bluff and sit tight.
North then can keep working on Sav... There is a long time before the draft to sweet talk him.
"hey Sav... we are taking you either way... it's a certainty unless you re-sign with Geelong so why don't you just plonk yourself in the PSD and we will 100% do that... You are a walk up starter, we have your back, we will give you that contract... we actually would have traded more to Geelong just to get you after Port failed you once for the second year in a row".
"Chuck yourself in the PSD and that way we can keep an extra late R1 in the ND and we can improve our club even more and you will be a big part of it... but if you go the ND we are still pumped to take you".
Port are sitting back thinking "ahhh we should have just added a bit more to #25 and avoided all of this".
So if I'm Port and I'm hearing crickets out of North or even Hawthorn about them wanting Sav... It would not fill me with confidence.
Port can't risk not getting the trade done imo (if they truly want him)... Their actions for the last two years have shown me they kinda want him but don't really want to make a sure thing of it.
And you know what... I won't disregard Sav staying with us and us talking him into staying (with an improved offer) if no trade is done.
I look forward to seeing how it all unfolds.
As soon as the trade deadline is up North say... "hey Sav, we love you and are willing to pay you that contract Port was... Feel free to nominate the ND because we will absolutely grab you with one of our late firsts".
Clearly that would get back to Port and Port could either trade up inside one of those picks (which wouldn't happen) or call the bluff and sit tight.
North then can keep working on Sav... There is a long time before the draft to sweet talk him.
"hey Sav... we are taking you either way... it's a certainty unless you re-sign with Geelong so why don't you just plonk yourself in the PSD and we will 100% do that... You are a walk up starter, we have your back, we will give you that contract... we actually would have traded more to Geelong just to get you after Port failed you once for the second year in a row".
"Chuck yourself in the PSD and that way we can keep an extra late R1 in the ND and we can improve our club even more and you will be a big part of it... but if you go the ND we are still pumped to take you".
Port are sitting back thinking "ahhh we should have just added a bit more to #25 and avoided all of this".
So if I'm Port and I'm hearing crickets out of North or even Hawthorn about them wanting Sav... It would not fill me with confidence.
Port can't risk not getting the trade done imo (if they truly want him)... Their actions for the last two years have shown me they kinda want him but don't really want to make a sure thing of it.
And you know what... I won't disregard Sav staying with us and us talking him into staying (with an improved offer) if no trade is done.
I look forward to seeing how it all unfolds.
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But we don't have to play fair. If the players we want after pick 30 are the types that wont likely be drafted at all, why help a team in their Premiership window improve.
We've got a great history of getting players where they want to go. But I'm happy we're not making things easy for Port. This move might be the one they need to make before any others, why help them improve?
Worst case scenario is we don't get this pick that will inevitably be pushed back to 30ish and he walks. In between that and what we can possibly get is more likely where things land tomorrow.
So you're saying the fact that North haven't shown any interest is proof they are, in fact, very interested?
Presumably, a club publicly stating they are interested in Esava (like Port or even us) also proves they are interested?
Therefore, every club in the league is very interested in Esava?
Ahhh, i see you've stumbled upon the theory of Sav-ception
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I don't see a lot wrong with it.
Only non-negotiable for me is Knevitt & Dempsey have to be getting games next year.
These two boys are some of the hardest trainers at the club, and I've got no doubt that they'll impress over summer and I'd have one of them over Touhy for round 1.
Duncan always seems to have a niggle early in seasons too, so the other can take his spot.
Bews is a tricky one. I know many believe he's cooked, but I'm not quite ready to stick a fork in him just yet. Had an interrupted summer, and he's not a player who's naturally gifted enough to be playing half fit. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a return to form there.
Having said that, if the coaches love what Mullin brings and he develops well over the summer, I'd be inclined to play him ahead of Bewsy.
Bruhn just has to be playing too, but there's no obvious omission with Guthrie senior back in the side.
I'd say we either rest Danger & Atkins forward and back, or manage them all together to ensure that Bruhn & Clark are getting adequate game time. Whoever we take at pick 8 (or similar) will likely get a run too.
Similar story with Neale up forward. Rohan will likely miss some games as he tends to do, and will hopefully be able to manage one of Hawk & Jez at a time to ensure they're firing at the business end.
Neale has to get games too.
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People are very much misinterpreting my team I posted. That's not at all who I think will play Round 1, it's just who I think is most likely to be in a 'Best 23' team - as determined by the MC.
All of Bruhn, Clark, Conway, Neale, Pick 8, Knevitt and Dempsey, are all a possibility to be playing Round 1 and displace Stanley, Tuohy, Bowes, Rohan, Bews and Duncan, from the 22.
I've posted my side for 2024 before, and it's not even close to that side. Was more a way for me to post the 33 players that we would have available, that shows decent depth - rather than a commentary of who I think should play.
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Yeah Mackie probably has zero respect
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Happens a bit with the sons of guns.
Unless they're genuinely the best player in the team, they seem to rub a few up the wrong way. Might be a bit of a 'You're only here because of your name' thing?
I'll put my hand up here and admit I underrate Cam Guthrie. Didn't he have a career-best year in 2022? He was conspicuous by his absence I must admit.
He lost his power when he cut his dreds!
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Not sure where I said it was a fact North were interested, just saying if they were to make a sneaky play on Sav after no trade was made for him, that keeping it on the downlow that they were keen on him would be the best play for them.
If Port knows that North are very keen, there’s no way Port are confident enough to walk him to either the ND or PSD and Port would be more likely to stump up more and get a trade done.
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Port saying p 25or noithing
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Hawthorn likely to get Ginnivan...as I couldn't hate them anymore
Sorry Sam!! That's around the neck!!
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Good get if indeed they do it with Pick 33.Hawthorn likely to get Ginnivan...as if I couldn't hate them anymore
A Real BIG w***er but a great way to improve a bottom 4 side quickly with quality fringe players.
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Geelong will take 25 over nothing if push comes to shove. We actually need that pick given the gap between our current picks.
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