Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader

 

[STPer18]

Haha bulldogs board think they've exposed some under the table deal between Cotton On and us/Baz.

Reckon it's going to "blow up".

Do they think we're as poorly run as Carlton?

They are coming to the realization Smith is going to go for not the overs they were initially hoping for
Now it's all about taking it to the high court for retribution.

It is going to be lovely watching Bailey rip that club a new one, year after year.

Lol.

Let me guess, Footscray supporters are going to become our 'new rivals' after this.

 

[goyoucatters]

I didn't think that. Had Port beaten Swans, we would also be 4th
Happy with 4th- slightly better draft picks.
I think it's based on ladder position pre-finals.

Absolutely right. When teams go out of the finals at the same stage, the higher-ranked team from the H&A finishes higher. Doesn't matter whether they've played previously in that finals series or not.

 

[cats_09]

I didn't think that. Had Port beaten Swans, we would also be 4th
Happy with 4th- slightly better draft picks.
I think it's based on ladder position pre-finals.
We can verify by looking at 2020- both GF teams lost their QF's but made it to the GF- what was the final top 4 after finals?
Tigers
Cats
?Port
?Lions

I found the following image from Draft Guru and while it's following the trade period, it would suggest the following prior to trades:

Richmond
Geelong
Port
Brisbane

That matches the AFL ladder after the season - but not sure it helps as it's slightly different because here the higher placed team lost the QF while the 2 higher placed teams wont QF




I've gone back over a few other years, and can't find a similar situation to this year to get a good comparison - lower ranked QF team wins, with both teams from that QF going on to lose their respective PFs

Guessing it's not a situation that comes up very often then

 

[bombersboy]

Martin is one I’d be happy to pass on - not sure why there’s the interest in a player who’s spent more time with the teams medical staff over recent years than with his teammates on the field

It’s similar with seeing some suggesting we should look at Preuss who after joing GWS, played 0 senior games in 3 of his 4 seniors systems with them due to injury and hasn’t played at senior level since round 21 2022

Somehow these guys who’ve been delisted by other teams & been battling significant injury concerns, are suddenly some sort of superstars just waiting for the right team to pick them up - don’t get it

If he only costs us a very late draft pick then I'm ok with a throw at the stumps.

 

[Hamingja]

Regarding Clohesy and the Bulldogs - do we know if he's still a rookie or has he been upgraded to the senior list?

If he's still on the rookie list & we're only looking to offer him another year as a rookie, he's essentially a FA who can move to the club of his choice with no trade needed

All depends which list he's currently on

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I think we would offer Clohesy a spot on the main list given the number of list changes, our weak draft hand and the fact we are supposedly chasing another Irish guy for the rookie list.

 

[D BRIDGE]

If he only costs us a very late draft pick then I'm ok with a throw at the stumps.

He costs zero picks.
Cap room only.

 

[Hamingja]

Maybe Kolo has seen SDK miss selection and thinks his spot isn't that safe? If there's a club offering 3+ years and we're only offering say 2 maybe he might think about leaving even though he was adamant he was staying.

I don't see contract length being a big issue from Kolo POV as he could just go to Tassie after his next deal with us. Someone previously said the club were concerned about the number of his concussions and maybe that is the sticking point for the club re 2 or 3 years.

 

[sexyhunk]

Haha bulldogs board think they've exposed some under the table deal between Cotton On and us/Baz.

Reckon it's going to "blow up".

Do they think we're as poorly run as Carlton?

lol lets be honest here, how many clubs are involve in "under the table deals" in the league? or should it be how many that are not?

 

[MacStradbroke]

Martin is one I’d be happy to pass on - not sure why there’s the interest in a player who’s spent more time with the teams medical staff over recent years than with his teammates on the field

It’s similar with seeing some suggesting we should look at Preuss who after joing GWS, played 0 senior games in 3 of his 4 seniors systems with them due to injury and hasn’t played at senior level since round 21 2022

Somehow these guys who’ve been delisted by other teams & been battling significant injury concerns, are suddenly some sort of superstars just waiting for the right team to pick them up - don’t get it

Last paragraph I definitely agree with, that is often the case, but on this occasion we’re talking a player who has been on hefty contracts for a long time that is supposedly coming for significantly less, so not sure anyone is expecting a superstar.

I’m happy to trial him for very little as he can certainly play. Not expecting the world though.

 

[Boxhead_31]

That's the name is was trying to remember

Just need to google how to pronounce this one one too

Julian? Shillane? Sheeyan?

Like the actor chap from Peaky Blinders and Oppenheimer
Kill-ee-an

 

[Kitcat]

Haha bulldogs board think they've exposed some under the table deal between Cotton On and us/Baz.

Reckon it's going to "blow up".

Do they think we're as poorly run as Carlton?

Their board is suggesting there was some deal in the last 3 years between Cotton On and Baz, without realising that as Baz was contracted to them during this period, only the Dogs could benefit from it not Geelong.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Their board is suggesting there was some deal in the last 3 years between Cotton On and Baz, without realising that as Baz was contracted to them during this period, only the Dogs could benefit from it not Geelong.

They have exposed their own corruption. Good job Doggies

 

[Gee Class Loco]

So Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

gets the keys to his new digs from a my mate the Landscaper from Bellbrae this week...
And I see "I can't believe it's not Butter's" seems to have his roots just about to be planted nearby.
GiddyUp Catters!!

 

[Lingsface]

Absolutely not ideal. Blicavs dropped off in midfield and our defense looked it's best this year with Blitz in defense. SDKs best this year was up the field and while I don't know if 1st ruck is viable he was very good as a 2nd ruck because he was getting around the ground and using the ball very well.
Stewart is another interesting one. His best was in midfield and his PF was poor in defense. Do they give him another preseason in midfield and make it a full time gig.
I'm not sure Humphries on the wing is the progression either off half back he was something else with his distribution. We need genuine pace on the wing though.

Yes half back was amazing but imagine him kicking inside 50 with a bit of pace and the licence to attack. Also hasn’t done more than one proper pre season so I expect the running to go to an next level in the next few years.

 

[FootyLad0]

Their board is suggesting there was some deal in the last 3 years between Cotton On and Baz, without realising that as Baz was contracted to them during this period, only the Dogs could benefit from it not Geelong.

That would require some nuance and analytical skills.

After seeing the way some of them have described him on their board i can see why he'd want to get the hell out of there.

 

[FootyLad0]

They have exposed their own corruption. Good job Doggies

 

[No Quarter]

I highly doubt that a club, Geelong or any other, in the current age would be so brazen to have put in such an obvious and in your face deal like the one Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

has with Cotton On, on the supposed guarantee BS would request a trade to Geelong when the time arose.

Subtle much? It screams look into us, and why would any club do such a thing?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I highly doubt that a club, Geelong or any other, in the current age would be so brazen to have put in such an obvious and in your face deal like the one Bailey Smith has with Cotton On, on the supposed guarantee BS would request a trade to Geelong when the time arose.

Subtle much? It screams look into us, and why would any club do such a thing?

It makes no sense.

"Hi Bailey, we're wanting to sign you to a long contract on the condition, which we can't legally hold you to, that you request a trade to the Cats in 2024. Also, you need to intentionally play badly in 2023, which damages your brand, and by extension ours, but is worth it to make sure the club we sponsor holds onto one extra lottery ticket which they have a proven track record of burning."

they need to log off and take a nap

 

[cats_09]

I highly doubt that a club, Geelong or any other, in the current age would be so brazen to have put in such an obvious and in your face deal like the one Bailey Smith has with Cotton On, on the supposed guarantee BS would request a trade to Geelong when the time arose.

Subtle much? It screams look into us, and why would any club do such a thing?

Nah, apparently our underhand deals all involve buying farmland on the outskirts of town for the players

 

[Munich]

Nah, apparently our underhand deals all involve buying farmland on the outskirts of town for the players

I thought it was pubs

 

[Johanpetro]

So Bailey Smith gets the keys to his new digs from a my mate the Landscaper from Bellbrae this week...
And I see "I can't believe it's not Butter's" seems to have his roots just about to be planted nearby.
GiddyUp Catters!!

Zac Butters has bought a house down in Geelong now? Come on don’t be silly!

 

[cats_09]

I thought it was pubs

I think that was for the previous generations

Apparently now it's all land deals, especially farmland - Hawkins, Jezza, Stanley, Smith etc

 

[No Quarter]

Nah, apparently our underhand deals all involve buying farmland on the outskirts of town for the players

I've definitely heard that a few times

 

[cats_09]

Zac Butters has bought a house down in Geelong now? Come on don’t be silly!

Pretty sure there's reports Butters has been looking at property in the Geelong region - and they go back before today

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Comment on here about rookies requiring trades when OOC or being DFAs - apparently they're only DFA if you offer them an additional rookie contract?

If we're chasing Cillian Burke then likely we offer him a senior contract so that means it required a trade?

Any gurus want to confirm?