Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[Hinkley29]

You will rarely get players gifted games in these scenarios unless it is a position of need ontop of everything else.

I think more the point is they showed high promise thru natural ability or incredible athletic traits that go pursued with games but never eventualised or made the grade.

Esava is a borderline C grade defender at port and is not exactly a fan favorite. The rest got plenty of games thru coaches persevering and ended up in their prime years delisted.

Could also probably add several others to that list like smedts etc.

Sometimes it works out, others it doesnt

I have a sneaking suspicion that if Sav was still at Geelong he would be a very handy player. Clearly that is speculation on my behalf, but his last season at Geelong was clearly his best.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I have a sneaking suspicion that if Sav was still at Geelong he would be a very handy player. Clearly that is speculation on my behalf, but his last season at Geelong was clearly his best.

His probs the debatable one. the rest of those examples went on to be delisted and it was no means an exhaustive list either. Would you have him ahead of COS?? COS is future captain material and sav is just a c grade key defender. He was not b22 at our club when all key defenders were fit his last year either.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Didn’t stop bartel winning a brownlow or ablett in 09 or some other gun top 4 mids. I think your main point of reference is probably cripps you are thinking of in recent times??

The votes he got for the season he had was a bit of a discredit to the credentials of the brownlow.

In no way did he produce an all time record vote worthy season

Cripps was my thought yes-standout player in an average side. I think Rowell will get a lot of votes taken off him which will cost him ultimately-but should poll well.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think the difference sadly is that Tom is a lot more physical and brutal with his footy and attack on field that Sam is.

Sam has a much softer approach to the contest and lacks mongrel, and his brother has quite a keen awareness of this and went after him physically which was a demonstration to the rest of the league

I'm not 100 % convinced with that. I think Sam is 'softer' if there is such a thing but for years (and I watch Carlton a lot) I watched Tom double grab marks, look at his opponent too much, not use his bulk, not put the knee in when he could etc he was all duck and no dinner. And then all of a sudden from last year he believed and he is literally crashing into and jumping over people and being super physical. So it may well be that Sam can do the same thing given he's 2 years behind him-and that's what the club will be banking on.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Parfitt was not a whipping boy until the end of his career at Geelong. He also played 130 games including a premiership. I would consider that a very successul career.

Sav and Murdoch got games because they filled needs in positions we needed. Sav also got paid and netted us a decent trade haul, I would consider that a success.

Murdoch never got there unfortunately. And Lang was just bad.

Thurlow was another one as was gregson but you could argue both were injury. And smedts and vardy had the talent but both were very lazy. Christensen was better than all of them but due to his off field issues never hit the heights he should have (and ironically enough got us stanley).

 

[Hinkley29]

His probs the debatable one. the rest of those examples went on to be delisted and it was no means an exhaustive list either. Would you have him ahead of COS?? COS is future captain material and sav is just a c grade key defender. He was not b22 at our club when all key defenders were fit his last year either.

until he was injured in 2022 and lost his spot in the team, Parfitt had been a very consistent inside mid for 5 seasons. He was not a whopping. It until the end of his career. Kind of like tuohy and now Duncan.

Sav is an interesting one. If he stayed, and continued the development path he was on I doubt we would have drafted COS. We wouldn’t have had the need to draft a key defender, and it is very rare that any team drafts a key defender that high in the draft. I still think it was a reach, even acknowledging the fact that COS looks like he is going to be a good pickup.

 

[Hinkley29]

Thurlow was another one as was gregson but you could argue both were injury. And smedts and vardy had the talent but both were very lazy. Christensen was better than all of them but due to his off field issues never hit the heights he should have (and ironically enough got us stanley).

Thurlow had the unfortunate situation of being drafted in a spot where many wanted Grundy. He was looking like a good prospect until injury ruined him.

Gregson was limited, but could have easily had a Close-type career if he didn’t get injured.

Smedts was talented but seemed to be not the sharpest fella, he was more athlete than footy player.

Vardy was an interesting one. I think if he was at the club now we would have been far more patient with him and put him on a very different training/workload programme. I think he could have been a very good long term player for us if we had put him on the Conway/Edwards programme.

Christensen is a Greek tragedy. I still get sad when I see him running around in the 2011 grand final impacting the biggest game of the year as a baby.

 

[Turbocat]

Its good to see a diverse range of opinions. Its easy to get draft and recruitment mixed up with team performance . Its probably hand and glove but they are two different items

imo

its March.. if its true the best ability is availability then Id expect we are more focused on having our group building fitness to be at their best from mid season and on… and hoping we can cope till we are playing at our best.

the side has a lot of players that are still developing and Im sure we want players do be impactful asap but the type we usually draft take time. COS is making. a quick second year impact while others with less than 50 games are 4 to 5 still look like they need to get better. They might. They might not . Thats footy. I look at many players that have been rookie or not even been drafted that then go on be impactful players. ZG in our backline is arguably our best def now.

The bottomline ..If we draft a player that we then rate ..Id think we mostly are going to give them 4 to 5 years before we bring down the hammer on them. Thats not to say we don't look at their progress and then adjust our recruiting drafting based on now need and future need.

What we do at years end will , to some degree , be out of our hands. We might have a couple of aligned players that we wish to add late in draft and depending on where we finish may be a component of our direction. If we finished with a top5 draft pick would we trade it out? Have to be a player in a very select group to do so but if the right players says… get me in hoops then we probably move in his direction... as we favour adding ready to go now need players

If its a player that is contracted it will again be more difficult ..so perhaps its again out of our hands as I doubt we go over the trade value we see as fair and reasonable. Could we trade our R1 into next year?

Lets see what the next couple of months bring. Even good sides can have years where the bounce gos against them so , we will have a better hold on needs and direction by May/June/July. Maybe we blood a couple more young players and see what we have.

 

[foxdog50]

Well Gawn was like 24 when he got over the injuries and broke out. Xerri came on about age 24. Meek was 25ish? Rowan Marshall I think was a bit younger, like 23ish?

Conway is 21 years old currently. I do think that as soon as his body is ready he's immediately our best ruck though. It's a low bar.

When will we start seeing Conway in the VFL? ( I know there ain't no timeline on Geelong website, but what would people thinking 4 weeks maybe ? )

 

[CatToTheFuture]

When will we start seeing Conway in the VFL? ( I know there ain't no timeline on Geelong website, but what would people thinking 4 weeks maybe ? )

Good question for the krock boys

 

[PzBlinky]

When will we start seeing Conway in the VFL? ( I know there ain't no timeline on Geelong website, but what would people thinking 4 weeks maybe ? )

I'm not fussy - would just like to see one of Conway, Edwards, or Moller running around the VFL. All 3 of our junior rucks injured is a little depressing :-(

 

[Cataholic]

When will we start seeing Conway in the VFL? ( I know there ain't no timeline on Geelong website, but what would people thinking 4 weeks maybe ? )

TBC

 

[foxdog50]

TBC

The good old "TBC" for Geelong’s Medical team..

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm not fussy - would just like to see one of Conway, Edwards, or Moller running around the VFL. All 3 of our junior rucks injured is a little depressing :-(

Pike is playing at least.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

until he was injured in 2022 and lost his spot in the team, Parfitt had been a very consistent inside mid for 5 seasons. He was not a whopping. It until the end of his career. Kind of like tuohy and now Duncan.

Sav is an interesting one. If he stayed, and continued the development path he was on I doubt we would have drafted COS. We wouldn’t have had the need to draft a key defender, and it is very rare that any team drafts a key defender that high in the draft. I still think it was a reach, even acknowledging the fact that COS looks like he is going to be a good pickup.

Good discussion to have. Can go on with other players as some have already brought up. Not so black and white, and makes a good chat

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Pike is playing at least.

I'm not filled with confidence by him

 

[Turbocat]

Pike is playing at least.

..and looked better for the run this week. Im just as interested in seeing the 2024 draftees. Hofmann and Molier and Ivisic.

 

[Turbocat]

I wonder if Davies pulled the right reign signing with GC. Doe’s he have a spot in their side?

 

[Turbocat]

I'm not fussy - would just like to see one of Conway, Edwards, or Moller running around the VFL. All 3 of our junior rucks injured is a little depressing :-(

To think that there was concern finding a spot to play them all … we really do not have a lot of luck with young rucks

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I wonder if Davies pulled the right reign signing with GC. Doe’s he have a spot in their side?

He'd be a decent Bruhn replacement and get us back on level pegging there as an option.

I feel we've got two paths to take depending on how the year progresses.

We need another solid midfield option, and one with star potential/already at that level.

If we have a poor year, something along the lines of what Adelaide did last year would be a decent route to take. Pick up a rotation piece like Peatling (Davies type) and look for your star option in the draft (Draper).

If it's a better year, and we can actually convince them to come, you just look for a Rowell or Butters to go with the extra depth option.

We have to get it sorted though whichever path we choose to take. PFD really shouldn't have to be saving the day at his age.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I wonder if Davies pulled the right reign signing with GC. Doe’s he have a spot in their side?

31d in the 2s. 22 were handballs but maybe that's what we need. He ain't playing at GCS anytime soon

 

[Turbocat]

31d in the 2s. 22 were handballs but maybe that's what we need. He ain't playing at GCS anytime soon

Its what i was thinking. He is a big body who can throw weight around. Would not be Rowell but still a good fit. But he is now signed so ..it gets down to if they would trade him.

 

[Footy Smarts]

31d in the 2s. 22 were handballs but maybe that's what we need. He ain't playing at GCS anytime soon

He's 23 and can't get a game. What makes us think he's better than Clohesy who is doing similar as a 20 year old?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He's 23 and can't get a game. What makes us think he's better than Clohesy who is doing similar as a 20 year old?

I don't think they're similar players

 

[cats_09]

TBC

Surely it's 2-weeks...