Gippsland Cricket Thread Part 3

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the Ultimate Warrior said:
This weeks sees the Collegians 1st XI tested for depth. With 2 very impressive wins in the first 2 games showing everyone that College does have good depth by replacing 2 stars in King and Trethowan, they will play the highly fancied Stratford without A.Hurley, R.Ingram(coming off a 85 and 113) and possible M.Nicholls. With B.Hurley the only name possibly coming in it should be a good test for a very even College team.
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I heard that Mark Nicholls has a wedding at 3, so, I would say that he is definitely out, not possibly out?? Then again, I could have my info wrong. What a start to the year for Ryan Ingram. He has all the shots, and gives it a real thump. I am sure there are plenty of people out there not surprised to see the runs he is putting up. I don't know his work roster personally, however, he has been home for the first 2 games, so, I guess he is now away for 2 weeks, which means he ends up home for the 2nd week of the 1st 2 day game. Would College take the gamble and field with 10 and potentially bat with 10 to be able to play him, or do they play him in the seconds in the 2 dayers. He might make 400 in a B grade 80 over game.
 
Surkin said:
Why do you say that? Have you even seen him play? Dutchy is a pretty good spinner. Not the biggest turner of the ball but he has great control and is a smart bowler. I would probably liken him to Vettori. Most people didn't consider Shane Warne up to international standard when he got his first crack. He didn't turn out too bad did he. With Hauritz having the roll at the moment it wouldn't take much to become a permanent fixture in the team. Personally I think Krezja should be there but Dutchy has his chance and if he takes it he could be hard to dislodge from the team.
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Yes mate, I have seen Holland play, and in my opinion is not up to international standard.
 

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mayhem20202 said:
I heard that Mark Nicholls has a wedding at 3, so, I would say that he is definitely out, not possibly out?? Then again, I could have my info wrong. What a start to the year for Ryan Ingram. He has all the shots, and gives it a real thump. I am sure there are plenty of people out there not surprised to see the runs he is putting up. I don't know his work roster personally, however, he has been home for the first 2 games, so, I guess he is now away for 2 weeks, which means he ends up home for the 2nd week of the 1st 2 day game. Would College take the gamble and field with 10 and potentially bat with 10 to be able to play him, or do they play him in the seconds in the 2 dayers. He might make 400 in a B grade 80 over game.
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He has been "not working" for 8 weeks started a new job which means he will work for four weeks and be back for four. Massive loss this week.

The info on mark is correct as i will be attending the same wedding.

IMO Ryan Ingram is very underrated, might try and look up his statistics against Stratford but would average nearly over 50 against possibly the most consitent bowling line up of the last ten years as mayhem said belts it straight and is strong square of the wicket. Good attributes as an opening batsmen.
 
What is Australia's fascination with spin bowlers.

They've gone through White, McGain, Krejza, Hauritz, Casson and now Holland that i can think of in the past couple of years in both forms of the game and Haurtiz is the only one who has shown hes up to it and some would say even that is debatable.

What a waste of a selection picking Holland. Would have though just pick Hauritz as the spinner and you have the back up of the part time spinners if you need them. Surely a combination of Hauritz (offies), White (leggies) and Clarke (left arm spin) is enough variety, plus you could even play guys like D.Hussey, Hodge, Katich that can bowl spin pretty effectively on those indian wickets plus add more strength to the batting.
 
I just realised Clarkes out injured, but can't believe that they have replaced him with Marsh, would have thought Hughes, Hussey/Katich would have been infront of him.

Don't understand why Phil Hughes is not included. His batting is more of a one day style yet they pick him in the tests and then say he needs to work on the short ball etc. He will go back to first class cricket and do what he's done before , pile on the runs. Wouldnt it be more benefical to him to play in the odi's and face international bowlers not first class bowlers , like how Clarke went through the same thing
 
bigpapagman said:
Good thread. 5 stars. :thumbsu:
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A+ would definitely read again.

Seriously though, what kind of person calls someone and imbecile and can't even spell the word correctly?

Also things I hate.
1. People who wear white shoes with a dark suit.
2. People who spell you're Y-O-U-R.
 
Surkin said:
A+ would definitely read again.

Seriously though, what kind of person calls someone and imbecile and can't even spell the word correctly?

Also things I hate.
1. People who wear white shoes with a dark suit.
2. People who spell you're Y-O-U-R.
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I concur with this post wholeheartedly.


Your a good poster, Surkin. ;)
 
bigpapagman said:
I concur with this post wholeheartedly.


Your a good poster, Surkin. ;)
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Yes me...I called you an imbecile and spelt it wrongly my first choice of words was dashed out. So i am the Imbocile sorry imbecile

Get over it...

Seriously you can't compare Jon Holland to a young Shane Warne, Warne spun the ball three feet when he was 22, Holland cant get it off the straight. Two totally different bowlers.
 
I agree it is stupid to compare the two. I wasn't trying to compare him to Warne as a player, just saying it is stupid to right a player off before they are given a chance to prove themselves. He may not be able to turn the ball square but there is much more to being a spinner than being a prodigious turner. I did compare his skill set to that of Vettori which is a pretty big wrap in itself. Just hope he does well as he is a good bloke.
 

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bigpapagman said:
Took 1/15 off 8 on the weekend leading the boys to our 2nd straight win. Yarragon was the victim this time. 2 from 2. Captaincy win rate @ 100%.
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mines at 50 percent. lost on the last ball of the day. spewing about it to it was lost at the selection table. had 6 under 16s and 2 people over the age of 19. ****in jibbed.
i got 1/16 off 7 and made a duck. lol. dont play the ****in cut shot at the regional oval.

also interesting to note how much lassie killed the wdca on saturday.

he'll announce himself as wdca's best player this season.
 
Couldn't care less if he's a good bloke, there's no way he should be anywhere near that squad. Krezja is very unlucky, produced wickets in India last time and he can bat and field well .
 
lynchy4610 said:
Couldn't care less if he's a good bloke, there's no way he should be anywhere near that squad. Krezja is very unlucky, produced wickets in India last time and he can bat and field well .
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I think it has been proven that Ricky Ponting likes his spinners who keep it tight.

Krezja does not fit that category, as he would go at 6 an over quite easily.
 
I don't care if Holland is good enough or not. It is just great to see some Vics get a chance. For years there have been many terrible NSW players get games when they have not been good enough.
Here is a side of the Worst players to represent Aussies in test cricket since 1990. Would love to see some other sides...

Jacques
Hughes
Phillips
M.Waugh - Most over rated player EVER (averaged 40. looked good though)
C.White
S.Young
S.O'Donnell
G.Manou
G.Robertson
S.Muller
S.Cook

Would love to see some comparables.
 
Surely we have had some worse openers than Hughes and Jacques. Hughes averages 52 and Jacques 47.

Matthew Nicholson, JO ANGEL, Brad Williams, Beau Casson, BRYCE McGAIN, Doug Bollinger, Chris Rogers and SHAUN TAIT all very unlucky to miss your side.
 
Mark Waugh is my favourite cricketer ever too. I do agree though his stats are nothing to write home about though. Was the prettiest batsman to watch though.
 
On those spinning wickets would you prefer to play an attacking spinner who would be the most likely to take 4 or 5 wickets but be a tad expensive or go with the 3 quicks in lee, Johnson , siddle and then Watson and hopes who is usually tight and play hauritz too . I'd rather have the 2 quicks in lee and Johnson , have an attacking spinner in krezja , defensive spinner in hauritz and then Watson hopes and even perhaps white to chip in for a couple of overs.

I'm not exactly a huge fan of krezja but I think he showed somthing in those conditions, I would have thought he would be more value to take in the squad behind hauritz than the rest of the spinners getting around at the moment
 
the Ultimate Warrior said:
I don't care if Holland is good enough or not. It is just great to see some Vics get a chance. For years there have been many terrible NSW players get games when they have not been good enough.
Here is a side of the Worst players to represent Aussies in test cricket since 1990. Would love to see some other sides...

Jacques
Hughes
Phillips
M.Waugh - Most over rated player EVER (averaged 40. looked good though)
C.White
S.Young
S.O'Donnell
G.Manou
G.Robertson
S.Muller
S.Cook

Would love to see some comparables.
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M.Elliot
G.Blewett
M.Love
M.Bevan :eek:
A.Mcdonald
B.Julian
P.Emery
B.Williams
P.Wilson
B.Lee/J.Angel thats how high i rate Brett Lee as a test bowler
S.Mcintyre
 
lynchy4610 said:
On those spinning wickets would you prefer to play an attacking spinner who would be the most likely to take 4 or 5 wickets but be a tad expensive or go with the 3 quicks in lee, Johnson , siddle and then Watson and hopes who is usually tight and play hauritz too . I'd rather have the 2 quicks in lee and Johnson , have an attacking spinner in krezja , defensive spinner in hauritz and then Watson hopes and even perhaps white to chip in for a couple of overs.

I'm not exactly a huge fan of krezja but I think he showed somthing in those conditions, I would have thought he would be more value to take in the squad behind hauritz than the rest of the spinners getting around at the moment
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Terrible thesis (i hope i spelt it right) on playing one day cricket in the sub continent. You never ever play two foreign spinners in India in a one day match, they are too likely to go for seventy each.
 
Think it was P McIntyre, leg spinner. What about Dan Cullen and Paul Wilson (not sure if he played a test).

Martin Love deserved a spot and did ok. Blewett and Elliot had some good years.

Whats wrong with hauritz in the one dayers, close to the best one day spinner in the world at the moment i reckon.
 
saint leo said:
Think it was P McIntyre, leg spinner. What about Dan Cullen and Paul Wilson (not sure if he played a test).

Martin Love deserved a spot and did ok. Blewett and Elliot had some good years.

Whats wrong with hauritz in the one dayers, close to the best one day spinner in the world at the moment i reckon.
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Not sure he is as good or better than Ajantha Mendis, Murali, Shahid Afridi or Dan Vettori. I would say he is approx. on par with Johan Botha and Graeme Swansong.
 
There's allways at least a couple of spinners in odi teams in India,most times it's one genuine and a couple of part timers but that's what I'm saying would you be better off playing a spinner who is attacking and yeah hauritz could play that role and then the other/s are to keep things tight eg Clarke/ symonds/ Dave Hussey.

Either way you look at it I think you need a spinner who is going to attack and try and get wickets playing on conditions that favour slower or spin bowlers

If your spin bowlers don't take wickets in those conditions, the Indians who play spin well will just milk them for runs
 
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