Club Focus Gold Coast Suns 2024

[Ticky009]

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[Jirik13]

I am actually wondering who will play 2nd wing opposite Clohesy. Could Powell move there or Weller who I forgot as a defender (I don't like him there).

 

[Daka]

If the Suns pick up Dusty, it says a lot about Hardwick's belief in Bailey Humphrey who he called would play the Dusty role.
does even get a game now if Dusty is in the team?

 

[Jirik13]

If the Suns pick up Dusty, it says a lot about Hardwick's belief in Bailey Humphrey who he called would play the Dusty role.
does even get a game now if Dusty is in the team?

Maybe Dusty could teach Humphrey some tricks?

Dusty looked pretty bad in most recent games. Surely, he would not play all games.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

If the Suns pick up Dusty, it says a lot about Hardwick's belief in Bailey Humphrey who he called would play the Dusty role.
does even get a game now if Dusty is in the team?

Humpa into the midfield after a big preseason would be the plan

 

[Daka]

I think it would show maturity if the Suns said no to Dusty.

Players have a history of going up to the Suns to top up there super in their retirement years.

 

[Iva Bigun]

I think it would show maturity if the Suns said no to Dusty.

Players have a history of going up to the Suns to top up there super in their retirement years.

Not of his calibre though, for a star of the game to want to play for the Suns even if it’s for 2 years is well worth the risk. Dimma may very well be able to get a couple of years of the old Dusty out of him and that could be the turning point for the club

 

[Daka]

Not of his calibre though, for a star of the game to want to play for the Suns even if it’s for 2 years is well worth the risk. Dimma may very well be able to get a couple of years of the old Dusty out of him and that could be the turning point for the club

he hasn't been the same since his serious kidney injury in a clash against Mitch Robinson + since his father died it's all combination.

 

[Iva Bigun]

he hasn't been the same since his serious kidney injury in a clash against Mitch Robinson + since his father died it's all combination.

I’m sure there is an element of that, a fresh start in a place he has always wanted to live plus his much beloved coach, plus a team about to rise may be the magic formula for the resurrection of his previous form, who knows

 

[lommy]

Players come good again from being “cooked” all the time. I’m willing to take a risk on Dusty for a fair price


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[Jirik13]

I think it would show maturity if the Suns said no to Dusty.

Players have a history of going up to the Suns to top up there super in their retirement years.

Going from reported 1.4M to 300K is probably OK. I am sure some Suns kids supporters would buy his guernsey and more fans would go to games.

Personally, I would not do it but I don't really care. He did look unmotivated, cooked.

Discussions around are entertaining.

 

[Daka]

Going from reported 1.4M to 300K is probably OK. I am sure some Suns kids supporters would buy his guernsey and more fans would go to games.

Personally, I would not do it but I don't really care. Discussions around are entertaining.

He won't be on 300k lmao no player is in less they are a rookie. he will still command 600-700k no doubt in my mind.

 

[Jirik13]

He won't be on 300k lmao no player is in less they are a rookie. he will still command 600-700k no doubt in my mind.

That's what Ralph reports. For the love of the game

 

[Daka]

That's what Ralph reports. For the love of the game

It's wrong, trust me Dusty would not get out of bed for 300k.

 

[Jirik13]

It's wrong, trust me Dusty would not get out of bed for 300k.

As I said, I don't really care. It will be entertaining. Who knows, AFL may even give him some ambassador money despite not talking, haha.

BTW, Andrew became multicultural ambassador.

 

[Scotty_222]

It's wrong, trust me Dusty would not get out of bed for 300k.

He’s not going to be earning 300k once he’s actually retired

 

[THE_GUN]

Going from reported 1.4M to 300K is probably OK. I am sure some Suns kids supporters would buy his guernsey and more fans would go to games.

Personally, I would not do it but I don't really care. He did look unmotivated, cooked.

Discussions around are entertaining.

Dont believe the $300k hype mate thats just rubbish

Dusty is worth over $30 mil and still earning money from properties and other stuff
He wont be playing for $300k. Maybe $300k base and $20k per game
Dusty will earn $500k min

 

[Iva Bigun]

It's wrong, trust me Dusty would not get out of bed for 300k.

I don’t think anyone knows what Coasty Martin might do or what he will play for, he certainly doesn’t need the cash, just saying it’s wrong doesn’t make it so

 

[Damo T]

If Dusty wants to play for the Suns, he will play for the Suns, especially if rumoured salary 300-500 is true. Worth roll of the dice.

 

[Cleric]

It's come out like I said it was in other threads. Dimma has gone at the players he thinks don't have great work ethic, and he singled out Luko and Rosas as two of them, and has told both to look elsewhere.
He does not want to pay Luko just under a million a year for the next two years.
Luko didn't want to leave and so he hasn't said anything as he is still working through if he wants to stay or not. The boys a bit heart broken they say.

Dimma is all about work ethic, and that's something the club has struggled with over a number of years.
Dew went in and did the same thing. Called out alot of the players as lazy and he was going to demand greater levels of hard work. He turned alot of players against him, as when you are fat, eating Pies and calling out the players for being lazy, it didn't fly well. He spent alot of the next few years mending fences.

Dimma has the ability to get away with doing the same thing. He is a premiership coach, and has 100% backing of the board to do whatever he sees fit.

Changing the culture is what he wants, and bringing in Rioli and Dusty goes some way to getting the Richmond premiership culture into the club, as well as two loyal soldiers in the group who will tell him what's going on inside the players.

 

[Jirik13]

He turned a lot of players against him,

I say BS. Yes, there were some players who were not or were borderline best 22 - Flanders, Fiorini, Hollands, Sharp. Every club has players like that. Definitely not 'a lot'.

Leaders like Witts, Collins, Miller, Luko, Anderson, Rowell, Powell, King, the list goes on were very supportive of Dew.

The main issue with Dew was that he was not able to take the team to another level and play finals. He was rightly let go. He should be gone probably 1-2 years earlier. Most coaches don't survive re-build. BTW, Nicks could be another one.

If you talk about Suns struggling with work ethic, again, I say BS. Even Dimma in his own words was amazed how hard players work and what a great shape they turned out for pre-season in.

IMO, it's all mental combined with mostly very young line-ups and learning a new system. Not knowing how to win, struggling in key moments, how to stop opposition momentum. Suns are horrible in taking opportunities, conversion and inside 50 deliveries.

Let's see how Dimma goes in his 2nd year. In 2024, he played talented kids with an eye on future while implementing his plan and sorting out players who fits into his plan. No guarantees.

IMO, Suns culture is not an issue. Retention of players despite not playing finals shows Suns environment is fine. Bloody hell, even Luko is still hanging on the door and refusing to go despite not fitting into Dimma's plans.

 

[perplexed]

Time to abandon this Rioli nonsense.

6 + 12 > 2. Gets safely ahead of the Lombard bid and choice of player at the top of the draft. Pick 2 is a much better result than Dan.

 

[Jirik13]

Time to abandon this Rioli nonsense.

6 + 12 > 2. Gets safely ahead of the Lombard bid and choice of player at the top of the draft. Pick 2 is a much better result than Dan.

Not going to get into picks, what will be the deal for Rioli but my question to you is this.

Would a pick 2 draftee help Suns to play finals in 2025? This year pick 2 will be a midfielder. Do you think he will crack Suns midfield? Do you think he will be ready to move the needle? Look at Humphrey in his 2nd year still not being able to crack the middle.

Who was pick 3 last year? That's right, Walter. Did he help Suns in 2024? Or were Suns just putting games into him while he struggled. Most picks need time to develop.

Do Suns need more developing top talent right now besides Lombard joining them?

Mature best 22 players will help Suns more next year. Time for developing is over. It's time to win. Alternative is not pretty.

Suns have a lot talent on the list already. FWIW, this year Lombard, next year Zeke Uwland and most probably more academy kids coming in.

 

[Cleric]

I say BS. Yes, there were some players who were not or were borderline best 22 - Flanders, Fiorini, Hollands, Sharp. Every club has players like that. Definitely not 'a lot'.

Leaders like Witts, Collins, Miller, Luko, Anderson, Rowell, Powell, King, the list goes on were very supportive of Dew.

The main issue with Dew was that he was not able to take the team to another level and play finals. He was rightly let go. He should be gone probably 1-2 years earlier. Most coaches don't survive re-build. BTW, Nicks could be another one.

If you talk about Suns struggling with work ethic, again, I say BS. Even Dimma in his own words was amazed how hard players work and what a great shape they turned out for pre-season in.

IMO, it's all mental combined with mostly very young line-ups and learning a new system. Not knowing how to win, struggling in key moments, how to stop opposition momentum. Suns are horrible in taking opportunities, conversion and inside 50 deliveries.

Let's see how Dimma goes in his 2nd year. In 2024, he played talented kids with an eye on future while implementing his plan and sorting out players who fits into his plan. No guarantees.

IMO, Suns culture is not an issue. Retention of players despite not playing finals shows Suns environment is fine. Bloody hell, even Luko is still hanging on the door and refusing to go despite not fitting into Dimma's plans.

I mean, you can deny it all you want, I knew a player at the club who was there before Dew and when Dew arrived. But hey, you can create your own reality.

 

[Jirik13]

I mean, you can deny it all you want, I knew a player at the club who was there before Dew and when Dew arrived. But hey, you can create your own reality.

What reality? Your reality that most players were not happy with Dew? OK.

I suggest you listen to interviews with players like Luko, Collins, Miller, Witts, Holman, Lemmens and so on. As I said there were players not happy and I mentioned some but your claim that most players were unhappy is IMO BS.

 

[sunsofanarchy]

What reality? Your reality that most players were not happy with Dew? OK.

I suggest you listen to interviews with players like Luko, Collins, Miller, Witts, Holman, Lemmens and so on. As I said there were players not happy and I mentioned some but your claim that most players were unhappy is IMO BS.

Dew had his favourites such as your list but i think in total, lost the playing group. It was my understanding that if you were outside the purple circle he didn't have much time for you. Perhaps if he wasn't blowing smoke up lukos butt he wouldn't be in the position he's in now. However, it was a similar strategy chocco williams and kevin sheedy used with the inaugural giants which served them well