Review Grand Final, 2023 - Collingwood vs. Brisbane Lions

[BangyBangy]

Geez, I hope you are not taking said relative to the Vet to be put down?

Hope my kids aren't reading this..

(tough what you have to do so good luck to you and your relative)

BTW, Love you and your posts MacMum you've had a tough couple of years.

Hope you're well.

 

[3KZ is Football]

To be honest, I’m really not as distraught as I thought I would be. We still lack a hard edge and the consistency that you see in really great sides. Berry and Fletcher managed 3 disposals for the first half, Starcevich could only manage 4 disposals for the half and Hipwood 5.
Rayner had a shocking second half with only 2 disposals. Too many players just went missing for extended periods.
Compounding their lack of possession, too many of these players just play dumb footy. Long term, Berry really doesn’t have what it takes and we need to either move him on or recruit a replacement. Too often today Collingwood played smart football, while we were stuck playing the low IQ brand.

 

[western royboy]

It was rubbish, not a single one like that payed our way all day.

Sorry - totally disagree - he’d taken the mark and he came in and tackled him and took him to ground to hold him up - easiest 50 metre to pay - I don’t recall any that we should have got other than a ball not being returned in the full late but I think there was some confusion over who was in control. Both 50m penalties against Berry were for the same thing which is poor.

 

[3KZ is Football]

See you next year.

Sorry - totally disagree - he’d taken the mark and he came in and tackled him and took him to ground to hold him up - easiest 50 metre to pay - I don’t recall any that we should have got other than a ball not being returned in the full late but I think there was some confusion over who was in control. Both 50m penalties against Berry were for the same thing which is poor.

100% Correct.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Better drilled, better composed side won. Would have been sweet to pinch it at the end, but not to be. Gonna be some boys hitting preseason on a quest to rebuild their reputations.

Having said that, the Pies were smooched on the sausage all September.

 

[Nathan Barley]

In hindsight Clug had a pretty big game after quarter time. 2 goals and 3 goal assists as well as leading our contested possessions. Just needed more taking the midfield load

 

[Shaq attack]

To be honest, I’m really not as distraught as I thought I would be. We still lack a hard edge and the consistency that you see in really great sides. Berry and Fletcher managed 3 disposals for the first half, Starcevich could only manage 4 disposals for the half and Hipwood 5.
Rayner had a shocking second half with only 2 disposals. Too many players just went missing for extended periods.
Compounding their lack of possession, too many of these players just play dumb footy. Long term, Berry really doesn’t have what it takes and we need to either move him on or recruit a replacement. Too often today Collingwood played smart football, while we were stuck playing the low IQ brand.

Berry can’t be a walk up start each week if we are going to win a flag. Good depth player and that’s it.

 

[western royboy]

Having said that, the Pies were smooched on the sausage all September.

They won three games by a combined 12 points - hence why I was worried when we hadn’t blown them away in the 3rd quarter - we were never winning a close one and they weren’t losing it unfortunately

 

[md20]

Shattered.
You have to give it to Collingwood though. When it looked like we were on top they wouldn't stop fighting back.
Same with us, there were a few times it looked like Collingwood were about to take it away but we continued coming. They just did it better.
One of the great grand finals.

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[Pacman82]

Sorry - totally disagree - he’d taken the mark and he came in and tackled him and took him to ground to hold him up - easiest 50 metre to pay - I don’t recall any that we should have got other than a ball not being returned in the full late but I think there was some confusion over who was in control. Both 50m penalties against Berry were for the same thing which is poor.

Go home, you already said that.

 

[Ad Astra]

Gotta say. It’s been a real pleasure sharing the highs and lows with everyone on this board this year. I don’t often post because someone has usually said it already. But it’s been great to feel the warmth and enthusiasm, especially after a win. We had some real highs this year. We lost a granny by a few points. Feeling everyone’s pain. But sharing it makes it easier.

 

[dlanod]

Go home, you already said that.

He's not wrong though.

 

[JasRulz63]

A fully fit Payne turning entries into counter attacks with marking... that really could have been a game winner instead of Gardiner and Lester halving contests at best.

You can see why we're after Doedee too. His intercept marking and subsequent good disposal is his most valuable skill.

A fit Andrews, Payne and Doedee could be pretty formidable.

 

[undefined]

Sending my love to every one of you Lions ultras. Nothing I post here will make tonight ok, but I’ll offer some advice; if you can’t rationalise the hurt, stop trying and let the emotion hit. The pain only builds character.

 

[Pacman82]

He's not wrong though.

Maybe, not happy right now after seeing so many soft ones go against us!

 

[wirra44]

Fantastic game from your boys and played absolutely in the spirit
of the moment.
Could have gone either way.
Absolutely know how it feels to be on the wrong side of a loss so just look forward.

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Specially a loss decided by a umpire decision hey?

 

[Nathan Barley]

You can see why we're after Doedee too. His intercept marking and subsequent good disposal is his most valuable skill.

A fit Andrews, Payne and Doedee could be pretty formidable.

Not sure how McKenna and Wilmot were unable to get more involved but we badly needed another good ball user down there in the second half when kiddy was tiring

 

[Squizz89]

There’s a few who need big pre-seasons. Berry is one. Felt like he had a bit more luck with his body this year so hopefully he can hit the ground running in preseason.

Cam obviously needs to smash this preseason if the club has hope that he can one day play at least “meaningful” mid minutes.

Kiddy is the other one. Imagine getting first half Kiddy for a full game! That’s where we need him.

 

[Gadzorks]

Hope Kiddy has a big preseason to get his fitness up so he can play like that first half, all game.

Not sure anyone can play at the level for a whole game.

 

[dlanod]

Maybe, not happy right now after seeing so many soft ones go against us!

That's fine, just don't fire up on us posters.

 

[Pancho Gonzales]

Hipwood needs some marking training - if he can't get it right then we need to trade him.

I said to my wife in the warm up that Eric looked off. Nervy and no confidence. Sadly I was 100% right - he was next to no use to us all day. I think the GF will either be the making or the breaking of him.

 

[kickazz]

Bad luck today, so many good moments from the Lions and the game could have gone either way really. I thought Daniher in particular was good.

 

[SizeMatters]

To be honest, I’m really not as distraught as I thought I would be. We still lack a hard edge and the consistency that you see in really great sides. Berry and Fletcher managed 3 disposals for the first half, Starcevich could only manage 4 disposals for the half and Hipwood 5.
Rayner had a shocking second half with only 2 disposals. Too many players just went missing for extended periods.
Compounding their lack of possession, too many of these players just play dumb footy. Long term, Berry really doesn’t have what it takes and we need to either move him on or recruit a replacement. Too often today Collingwood played smart football, while we were stuck playing the low IQ brand.

We always seem to have so many players missing when it’s not completely on our terms. Lack that mentality and leadership within the group to individually drag themselves back into the contest.

 

[bato]

Berry is such a frustrating footballer. We’re seeing more bad with bad rather than good with the bad. He’s on a downhill path to being replaced very soon.

 

[golions]

So how do we get better?

Kiddy fitter
Payne back to pre-injury form
1 more B grade mid (preferably in addition to Ashcroft returning)
Rayner consistency
Ruck support

Feel like we are in for a tough couple of years.
Lester and Zorko are on verge of retirement and we don’t have ready made replacements
Unsure if Hipwood, Berry or Rayner will get better
GWS and Carlton will be better and we may struggle to finish top 2 which is basically what we need to make the Big Dance