Grand Final Rematch: Hawthorn vs Fremantle - Who will win?

[andy_20]

So will Hodge and Mitchell both be playing?

Personally I think a Centre Line and Ruck division made up of Sandilands, Mundy, Crowley, Neal, Hill/ Pearce (Wings) still looks pretty good to me.

 

[The GOAT]

So will Hodge and Mitchell both be playing?

Personally I think a Centre Line and Ruck division made up of Sandilands, Mundy, Crowley, Neal, Hill/ Pearce (Wings) still looks pretty good to me.

Hodge definitely not, Mitchell maybe (or likely according to Hodge)

 

[Jaeger]

So will Hodge and Mitchell both be playing?

Personally I think a Centre Line and Ruck division made up of Sandilands, Mundy, Crowley, Neal, Hill/ Pearce (Wings) still looks pretty good to me.

I think they'll both miss. Agree you're still very strong through the middle, especially with Sandilands providing first use.

Surely Sylvia comes in?

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

If McPharlin plays on Gunston he will barely touch the ball.

I'm a believer with Freo that their most important player is McPharlin - best KPD in the league by a margin.

He is quick, agile, strong and reads the ball beautifully. Also has very tidy skills

Geez, not seen Harry Taylor play?

 

[WWSD]

If McPharlin plays on Gunston he will barely touch the ball.

I'm a believer with Freo that their most important player is McPharlin - best KPD in the league by a margin.

He is quick, agile, strong and reads the ball beautifully. Also has very tidy skills

I can't see McPharlin on Gunston in my opinion. I would think he'd be more suited on Roughead, while someone like Johnson would be an ideal match-up for Gunston and Silvagni would take Hale and or McEvoy.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Geez, not seen Harry Taylor play?

McPharlin is better than Harry - by a bit too IMO

Quicker, significantly better kick and stronger man on man.

 

[clogged]

I agree, but surely he will play on Roughie considering that Dawson is out

If Silvagni comes in he will probably play on Roughead, if only because Gunston is slightly more athletic and agile.

 

[andy_20]

I think they'll both miss. Agree you're still very strong through the middle, especially with Sandilands providing first use. Surely Sylvia comes in?

I wouldn't play him myself as there are others players in waiting that have better WAFL form behind him. Sylvia does know the MCG well but I don't form warrants an inclusion just yet.

 

[wild side]

Hmm, these outs for Fremantle certainly make things interesting. I must admit I don't know much about their depth so who is likely to replace Fyfe, Barlow and Dawson?

Neale, Clarke and Ibbotson. Could be ins. Otherwise Sylvia could come in as well.

 

[god of purple]

50/50 game. Time for some other players from both clubs to stand up now. Should be exciting!

 

[Hawkinspired]

Neale, Clarke and Ibbotson. Could be ins. Otherwise Sylvia could come in as well.

Strong ins. Freo are still picking from their best 25 players whilst Hawthorn are picking from their best 30.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

50/50 game. Time for some other players from both clubs to stand up now. Should be exciting!

Still think we are way too light down back and you guys will win.

I don't celebrate injuries (suspensions I do) but I most say I'm a lot more hopeful since the Barlow announcement.

 

[WWSD]

Still think we are way too light down back and you guys will win.

I don't celebrate injuries (suspensions I do) but I most say I'm a lot more hopeful since the Barlow announcement.

Aside from Pavlich, the Dockers don't usually have a tall forward line. Our short back line could actually work on a ground like the MCG this week. It's going to be raining on Friday night.

 

[MotleyLemon]

McPharlin is better than Harry - by a bit too IMO

Quicker, significantly better kick and stronger man on man.

Embarrassing post - IMO.

 

[Righteo]

Hope I'm wrong but this is shaping up as mirror image of our game vs Geelong at Skilled last year. Starting to abandon the prospects of a good game and just hope we don't get embarrassed again.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

McPharlin is better than Harry - by a bit too IMO

Quicker, significantly better kick and stronger man on man.

God some people are stupid.

 

[wild side]

Embarrassing post - IMO.

Not really. Quite true actually.
McPharlin generally pants' the opposition best forward. Regularly!

 

[Cynic]

Hope I'm wrong but this is shaping up as mirror image of our game vs Geelong at Skilled last year. Starting to abandon the prospects of a good game and just hope we don't get embarrassed again.

Our midfield won't be on par with Geelong's back then and I thought you were missing Lurch then? Don't stress too much, it'll be a 50/50 game, not a blowout.

 

[treefingers]

Freo easily.


Hawthorn didn't win the '13 flag, Freo threw it away.

The game where Freo were not once in the lead, and trailed by over 5 goals halfway through the last?

If you want to see a side throw away a grand final, watch the 2012 version

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

that's very brave of you

I rate Fremantle's youngsters a lot higher than Hawthorn's and that's because they have had more game time at the top level.
Hawthorn's newbies are raw, they will get slaughtered against a well drilled defensive unit like Fremantle's.

See that wasn't so hard. Should have been what you said to start with instead of looking like a complete clown

 

[Randy Campbell]

Crisis creates opportunity.

 

[Righteo]

Not really. Quite true actually.
McPharlin generally pants' the opposition best forward. Regularly!

The only thing I saw wrong with it was the better kick part, Harry T has a much better and longer kick on him.

Our midfield won't be on par with Geelong's back then and I thought you were missing Lurch then? Don't stress too much, it'll be a 50/50 game, not a blowout.

I thought our GF side had comfortably the better midfield on paper and Mitchell was tagged completely out of it, you still had the advantage.

Just think if Mundy has a quiet game we're boned as there's nobody else to carry the workload. We'll be relying on Neale in his first full game this year and guys like DPearce, Mzungu, De boer and Suban to win the bulk of the contested footy. Not forgetting Sandilands is a considerably lesser player when he doesn't have quality mids at his feet (will be facing better rucks this time too with the acquisition of McEvoy), take into account our ramshackle forwardline which would struggle even with good supply and it's no surprise I'm a little worried.

I realise nobody rates Dawson either but if Silvagni doesn't come in, Johnson needing to play as a second tall hurts our defensive structures too.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

The only thing I saw wrong with it was the better kick part, Harry T has a much better and longer kick on him.

I find Harry's accuracy is ok - but his depth on his kicks is poor - quite often half volleying or overshooting the intended target. As a shot for goal - depth doesn't matter, but coming off half back it does matter.

Luke might kick within his limits - but he hits targets more regularly IMO

 

[FreoRicci]

Hope I'm wrong but this is shaping up as mirror image of our game vs Geelong at Skilled last year. Starting to abandon the prospects of a good game and just hope we don't get embarrassed again.

Difference was no Pavlich, Sandilands, Mundy, Barlow as well as many others. Hawthorn are also depleted in their midfield/HBF with Hodge, Stratton, Lake and Schoenmakers out.

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

I think it will still be a tight game. The inclusions for Freo will have quite a lot of AFL experience - in youngsters and our mature depth - and this is their opportunity to make statements - we have a lot of very capable depth pushing for the 22. Hawks don't really have that much experience in their depth, in comparison. Lachie and Ibbo will almost definitely be back in the team.

Ross' structures and the way we play also mean the outs don't have quite the effect on the team that they would have for most other teams. Though 2 of our best beast mid's (Fyfe and Barlow) will cause us problems, particularly as we really needed another 3-4 weeks before Mora and Sylvia are fully ready, though Lachie coming in will be very handy. Selection table will be very interesting for Freo this week - do they rush someone in slightly early to the mid as well as Lachie.

Freo's structures don't hold up as well as you think. Their record doesn't hold up too good when missing two of their big 3 mids, which you are on Friday. Last time was an 8 goal loss to Geelong. When you rested senior players towards the end of last year you got beaten by Saints. If your structures had of held up you would have definitely beaten the Saints who were terrible all year.

Plus yes Sylvia has AFL experience, but he is from Melbourne who have absolutely no structure. Your in's haven't played AFL all year. Hawthorns 'ins' and already in and are playing there 3rd games for the year