Grant Thomas - Hall has no Case to Answer for.

[Z_K]

Yep the two minute mark of this vision never happened. Number 30 is Pratt correct?

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That's the attack, is it?

Barry won't sleep for weeks.

 

[CalWard Is Money]

Thomas still hurting from when St Nick was roughed up all those years ago?



It's all ok that Hall ended one players career and put three titanium plates in his skull for life, and king hit another player, breaking his jaw. These indiscretions are remote and inconsequential, because if he wasn't playing footy, he probably would have killed someone by now. What a feelgood story.

Saturdays event were neither here nor there, and neither player should receive any form of reprimand, or we may as well start playing chess.

But FFS, let's not try and rewrite history and make a saint out of Hall.

And who exactly is re-writing history? Barry served his sentence for the afore mentioned indiscretions and nobody is doubting that he deserved it. What stinks is that he does not receive the same amount of protection as other forwards, this should not be the case purely because he has belted blokes in the past.

Cam Mooney is another who suffers from his checkered past. Mooney and Hall can be all but r*ped by a defender and receive nothing but you just have to lay a hand on St.Nick and it is a free. Consistency that is all we ask for. As for Thompson...I'm glad he plays for your team and not for mine for as long as he is in your team you will remain in the wrong 8.

It doesn't take courage for a bloke to niggle, scrag and bump someone. It is also not showing courage when three or four blokes continue this stupidity as Hall is coming off the ground. Real courage is found on the bottom of packs, putting your head over the footy and making a contest. Perhaps your coach should start teaching your young blokes about that instead of 'off putting tactics'. It's not the 90's anymore...

 

[jacko57]

Scott Thompson should be hung, drawn and quartered.

at the very least.

Can't believe how many anti-North flogs have thrown themselves at this story, in the process trying to deify one of the most dangerous thugs to ever play the game.

 

[memberforever]

But to let a guy get away with losing his shit, because he can't get a kick or is being niggled is setting a very dangerous precedent.

No one lost his shit, Barry gave him a headlock, full stop. If he gets more than a fine, then it will set a precedent to attack him even more ie every game he plays.

 

[Ant_]

That's the attack, is it?

Barry won't sleep for weeks.

Only punch I've seen connect in this whole push and shove saga as well

 

[Roosurgence]

Agree with that.

This whole thing is blown out of proportion really when you take a backwards step. Not much in any of the incidents, I think Mick Martyn was spot on when he said umps need to control the game better.

That's the irony of the whole situation. If the umps had done their job correctly then the incident wouldn't have occurred.

I can see Eade's point to a degree, he is pointing out that because it's Barry Hall it's no free, whereas Riewoldt would have been paid a free in the same situation. Just don't like the way he has gone about sniping our club. On the whole a pretty weak and sooky effort by Rocket. I would expect a senior coach to handle that whole situation a lot better, than portray a victim mentality.

 

[jacko57]

Agree with that.

This whole thing is blown out of proportion really when you take a backwards step. Not much in any of the incidents, I think Mick Martyn was spot on when he said umps need to control the game better.

ok, now it's just turning surreal.

 

[Roosurgence]

No one lost his shit, Barry gave him a headlock, full stop. If he gets more than a fine, then it will set a precedent to attack him even more ie every game he plays.

WTF?!?!

He lost his shit big time. Is headlocking players a a normal action on the footy field? The fact that two guys struggled to pry him off, shows it wasn't a friendly cuddle?!?!

How many games of footy have you played in or watched where players go around headlocking each other when they haven't lost the plot?

 

[Ant_]

ok, now it's just turning surreal.

Like I said, take a backward step look at it again objectively. Bay 13 is for trolling and that 800 post thread probably needs to be there as well.

 

[hilly]

Didn't Barry Hall bump over Zac Dawson (who was tying up his laces) in the pre-season Grand Final?

Where was the outrage over that?

 

[CalWard Is Money]

That's the irony of the whole situation. If the umps had done their job correctly then the incident wouldn't have occurred.

I can see Eade's point to a degree, he is pointing out that because it's Barry Hall it's no free, whereas Riewoldt would have been paid a free in the same situation. Just don't like the way he has gone about sniping our club. On the whole a pretty weak and sooky effort by Rocket. I would expect a senior coach to handle that whole situation a lot better, than portray a victim mentality.

But it is ok for your coach to come out during the week pre game and question the unity of our football club??? How's the view from your glass house???

 

[Arden]

And who exactly is re-writing history? Barry served his sentence for the afore mentioned indiscretions and nobody is doubting that he deserved it.

Grant Thomas is, hence my original quote.

When Barry Hall left St Kilda in 2002 I wasn't sure how the story would end. In my opinion he is one of the greatest success stories of the AFL. You can talk about all of the systems, training, education, life skills and AFLPA development but in my time the Barry Hall story is as good as it gets. I have no idea where he would be without the game but I have an idea. His application, discipline, selflessness and leadership have been exemplary. Certainly he has had indiscretions but they are remote compared to the alternative option

I'm not even commenting on Saturdays event anymore, and nor is Thomas in this blog.

He is justifying his previous actions, because had he not been a footballer, he may have ended up in jail.

How about Thomas write an article about Sam MacFarlane, who had his career cut short by Hall.

 

[Ant_]

Didn't Barry Hall bump over Zac Dawson (who was tying up his laces) in the pre-season Grand Final?

Where was the outrage over that?

From memory, cleaned him up in a contest then gave him a verbal spray when he was on the ground.

 

[hilly]

From memory, cleaned him up in a contest then gave him a verbal spray when he was on the ground.

Hopefully Dawson got weeks for it.

 

[Khan]

Difference would be precedence. In the past headlocks have gotten fines where as head butts (as soft as the Jackson one was) have been given weeks.

No issue with him getting a fine but the excuse of 'they were annoying thats why I did it' clearing him could be used in both cases - so if Hall get off so should Jacko, infact Jacko's happened just after he had received a bump to the shoulder (not the head).

 

[Ant_]

Hopefully Dawson got weeks for it.

Apples and Oranges, unless a couple of hundred metres off the ball tying shoelaces is in the contest?

 

[bulldogsman]

If Hall gets weeks then the umpires should all be sacked to. Riewoldt has got 3 free kicks this year out of what Thomson did (not to mention the prelim) and yet Hall gets a free kick paid against him. I guess he forgot to dive. If the umpires did their job and paid a free kick to Hall this probably never would have happened.

 

[Ant_]

No issue with him getting a fine but the excuse of 'they were annoying thats why I did it' clearing him could be used in both cases - so if Hall get off so should Jacko, infact Jacko's happened just after he had received a bump to the shoulder (not the head).

He shouldn't get off because of provocation (or have it factored into the decision) he should cop a fine because that's all it deserved.

Feel for Jackson, was not much in his one at all.

 

[WALL-e]

I'll joint the for once I agree with Grant group.

 

[Ando727]

but geez Thommo needs somebodt to proof read his articles

I know. "It wreaked of their coach"

But that said I only just realised it was a blog. If it was a proper article then it would be a different story.

Whoops. At least mine was only a typo and not a total contradiction!

 

[jacko57]

Apples and Oranges, unless a couple of hundred metres off the ball tying shoelaces is in the contest?

well, there was a Sydney-St Kilda final a few years back when they set a precedent on when the ball is 'in play'..........

 

[Ant_]

well, there was a Sydney-St Kilda final a few years back when they set a precedent on when the ball is 'in play'..........

Lost me on that one?

 

[Ry009]

Lost me on that one?

Think he's referring to the tap Hall gave Goose Maguire I think mate.

 

[Beckers]

He shouldn't get off because of provocation (or have it factored into the decision) he should cop a fine because that's all it deserved.

So any on baller who have been savaged by Ling, Kirk, Carr or Jones can be excused if they retaliate? Or is this a SPECIAL rule for the poor misunderstood angel Barry Hall?

 

[Ant_]

So any on baller who have been savaged by Ling, Kirk, Carr or Jones can be excused if they retaliate? Or is this a SPECIAL rule for the poor misunderstood angel Barry Hall?

Did you actually read what I typed?

He shouldn't get off because of provocation (or have it factored into the decision) he should cop a fine because that's all it deserved

Previous head locks = fine. As I typed and you quoted FFS, provocation is no excuse so the incident should get the prescribed penalty which is a fine.