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Greatest Player not to go number 1......and worst to have been.
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waterhouse
The worst number 1 draft picks would be a dead heat between Richard Lounder, Stephen Hooper, Anthony Banik and John Hutton.
Can I add that Lounder and Banik were both Richmond "gems"!
James hird greatest not to go number 1.
John Hutton worst to go Number 1.
John Hutton worst to go Number 1.
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Chris Grant went at pick 105 very unlucky not to go number 1
Knock_out32
Rookie
waterhouse is the worst without a doubt. hird/ judd/ brown and soon buddy franklin would have to be up there as the best not to have gone #1
What about Hutton? At least Clive had a medium sized career....
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Greatest player NOT to go number 1 is a stupid argument, because the number 1 pick usually never ends up being the best, so that leaves hundreds of brilliant footballers of many years to pick.
Eg - Chris Judd didn't go number 1 in 2001.
Eg - James Hird was pick 79 in the 1990 draft.
Eg - Shane Crawford was pick 13 in the 1991 draft.
Eg - Scott Burns was pick 90 in the 1992 draft.
Eg - Nigel Lappin was pick 2 in the 1993 draft.
Eg - Barry Hall was pick 19 in the 1995 draft.
Eg - Chad Cornes was pick 9 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Simon Black was pick 31 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Adam Goodes was pick 43 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Matthew Scarlett was pick 45 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Matthew Pavlich was pick 4 in the 1999 draft.
ETC....
These guys could all be considered 'the best players not to go number 1'.
As for the worst, I would have to say
1987 - Richard Lounder
1988 - Alex McDonald
1990 - Stephen Hooper
And from then on, the number ones are all pretty decent players.
The best number 1 ever probably being Nick Riewoldt or Luke Hodge, maybe even Jeff White.
EVERYONE LOOK AT PICK #21 IN THE 1991 DRAFT!
Eg - Chris Judd didn't go number 1 in 2001.
Eg - James Hird was pick 79 in the 1990 draft.
Eg - Shane Crawford was pick 13 in the 1991 draft.
Eg - Scott Burns was pick 90 in the 1992 draft.
Eg - Nigel Lappin was pick 2 in the 1993 draft.
Eg - Barry Hall was pick 19 in the 1995 draft.
Eg - Chad Cornes was pick 9 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Simon Black was pick 31 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Adam Goodes was pick 43 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Matthew Scarlett was pick 45 in the 1997 draft.
Eg - Matthew Pavlich was pick 4 in the 1999 draft.
ETC....
These guys could all be considered 'the best players not to go number 1'.
As for the worst, I would have to say
1987 - Richard Lounder
1988 - Alex McDonald
1990 - Stephen Hooper
And from then on, the number ones are all pretty decent players.
The best number 1 ever probably being Nick Riewoldt or Luke Hodge, maybe even Jeff White.
EVERYONE LOOK AT PICK #21 IN THE 1991 DRAFT!
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- Oct 6, 2006
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- Chris Grant & Muhammed Ali
royboy2
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Brown was father son so wouldn't have been no1 anyway
I assume you mean in draft years? Besides, there have been less than 20 number one picks, and about 70 or so non number one picks per year, weight of numbers suggets 1 won't be the best.
The days of Hird and Grant are over, Hird was hidden in Canberra, and the draft doesn't even go past 100 now.
The days of Hird and Grant are over, Hird was hidden in Canberra, and the draft doesn't even go past 100 now.
Wizard
Brownlow Medallist
Anyone that says Clive Waterhouse really needs to look at the facts and see how much of a ridiculous comment it is.
To be fair on Hutton he was drafted #1 at age 25 after 1 season of WAFL football in which he kicked a big haul - up to that point he was a country footballer. Had some big days in front of the goals for an undersized FF in some terrible teams but was probably simply out of his league. Blame Robert Walls.
- Oct 6, 2006
- 7,802
- 471
- AFL Club
- Western Bulldogs
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- Chris Grant & Muhammed Ali
That all might still happen these days any way. Pick 75 or so these days is as good as pick 100 but its much more difficult these days
- Oct 6, 2006
- 7,802
- 471
- AFL Club
- Western Bulldogs
- Other Teams
- Chris Grant & Muhammed Ali
Nowadays #1 in the rookie draft is technically a higher pick than the last pick in the national so its hard to compare
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Chris Grant went at pick 105 very unlucky not to go number 1
That was not so much because teams didn't rate him, it was more because the sly Doggies made sure noone even knew about him.
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Yes that is kind of true although we drafted him as a 15 year old kid. His first season as a 17 year old full forward he kicked 51 goals and that till this day is an AFL record
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Worst is Brendon Goddard. The McDonald's and Lounder's were at a time when drafting was very speculative. The world knew how to draft by the time Goddard was picked.
Re best, Hird or was Carey drafted?
Re best, Hird or was Carey drafted?
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