Traded Gysberts to North for Pedersen and Draft Pick

[HFF]

Not sure what this circle jerk overrating of Gysberts is about.

Sure he is young but he hasn't set the world on fire to date.

This trade is about right for both parties as both players have displayed about as much as each other.

Hardly a "win" one way.

 

[Vim Fuego]

North just turned a rookie pick into a first rounder two years later.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't judge any player drafted and "developed" at Melbourne in the last few years until they've had a shot in a real system - and North has been excellent at bringing young players through recently.

If Jordan wants to be a success, he'll do the work. He's certainly in the right culture to do so now.

Well, since October of 2011 Gysberts has been in the 'right culture' and in a 'real system', he just didn't work hard enough to earn his spot.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

It's now official .... we won the McLean trade of 2009.

 

[iGNITER]

Gysberts is a talent, North didnt even want Peders......Neeld must not rate Gys at all

Thats what I thought as well... From what I seen of Gysberts he looked the goods.

Dont think Pedersen will be great for Melbourne but more a gap filler... Can play relief ruck which will allow Clark to stay up forward with Dawesy

 

[Coledinho]

Not sure what this circle jerk overrating of Gysberts is about.

Sure he is young but he hasn't set the world on fire to date.

This trade is about right for both parties as both players have displayed about as much as each other.

Hardly a "win" one way.

In that opposite vain im not too sure what the circle jerk overrating Pedersen is about. He is 25 and proven diddly squat. He was worth a pick 60-70 at best

 

[HFF]

In that opposite vain im not too sure what the circle jerk overrating Pedersen is about. He is 25 and proven diddly squat. He was worth a pick 60-70 at best

Which is why I said both players have shown about as much as each other considering they've been in the AFL system about as long as each other.

Fair deal all round.

 

[Coledinho]

Which is why I said both players have shown about as much as each other considering they've been in the AFL system about as long as each other.

Fair deal all round.

Gysberts has 5 times more potential though. Pedersen doesnt have room for improvement either. Gysberts does.

 

[HFF]

Gysberts has 5 times more potential though. Pedersen doesnt have room for improvement either. Gysberts does.

Basing that on nothing but age.

Pedersen's next 5 years may be better than Gysberts. Who knows but as it stands the deal is about right for both parties.

 

[Coledinho]

Basing that on nothing but age.

Pedersen's next 5 years may be better than Gysberts. Who knows but as it stands the deal is about right for both parties.

Age + physical development. Ones a mature aged player, the other isnt. Regardless of years in system etc.

 

[Silvagnis]

Melbourne should have asked for Majak Daw.

Not really.

 

[Sedat!]

Pederson suffered from having 2 gun ruckmen infront of him.

Murphy's Law would suggest that Goldstein will have a long-term injury now that McIntosh and Pederson have been moved on. At least having Petrie and Daw still gives North good coverage in the ruck stocks - astute list management and drafting over the years.

 

[MaddAdam]

No. We did that with Darren Jolly. Gysberts unfortunately not worth anywhere near a first rounder anymore.

Gysberts was widely rated a first rounder in his draft year.

Melbourne themselves have acknowledged that the footy department and culture he came into was entirely wrong. He also suffered injuries. Basically, he's never had an opportunity to experience a proper AFL development set up. Now he does.

 

[The Finger]

Gysberts was widely rated a first rounder in his draft year.

Melbourne themselves have acknowledged that the footy department and culture he came into was entirely wrong. He also suffered injuries. Basically, he's never had an opportunity to experience a proper AFL development set up. Now he does.

I thought North picked up Gysberts. Am I missing something?

 

[jclei]

Confirmed: North sends Cam Pedersen + pick 74 to Melbourne, for Jordan Gysberts + pick 63: http://afl.to/TIQcnB #AFLTrades

 

[jclei]

So we got a pick upgrade. Nice

 

[Richo83]

Gysberts was widely rated a first rounder in his draft year.

Melbourne themselves have acknowledged that the footy department and culture he came into was entirely wrong. He also suffered injuries. Basically, he's never had an opportunity to experience a proper AFL development set up. Now he does.

Eh, last time I remember Gysberts was a bit of a reach at 11, and was considered by a few to be more of a second round prospect.

 

[Vim Fuego]

Confirmed: North sends Cam Pedersen + pick 74 to Melbourne, for Jordan Gysberts + pick 63: http://afl.to/TIQcnB#AFLTrades

Whaaaa?? I thought our pick was going to get upgraded given the age difference. Not that it really matters that late...but still i don't get it.

 

[coryne]

Confirmed: North sends Cam Pedersen + pick 74 to Melbourne, for Jordan Gysberts + pick 63: http://afl.to/TIQcnB#AFLTrades

So Melbourne traded away a contracted, recent 1st rd draft pick for Pedo + a pick upgrade ???


Have they had a true win during Trade week outside of getting gifted Viney for a 2nd rd pick ???

MD2. Over paid
Dawes. Over paid
Pedo. Over paid

 

[raven echo]

North picked our pocket with them getting a pick upgrade on top of Gysberts

 

[Vim Fuego]

Gysberts was widely rated a first rounder in his draft year.

Melbourne themselves have acknowledged that the footy department and culture he came into was entirely wrong. He also suffered injuries. Basically, he's never had an opportunity to experience a proper AFL development set up. Now he does.

It's his attitude that's the problem, other players have adapted and improved..

 

[Tulip]

Incredible by North, officially their (and everybody else's) bitches in 2012.

 

[Super Hans]

I really liked Gysberts, still do obviously. They defiantly could of got more. He has shown a fair bit more than Ben Jacobs.

 

[mrpez]

Pick swaps is a non-issue. 63 would have been used for a rookie elevation.

 

[MaddAdam]

Incredible by North, officially their (and everybody else's) bitches in 2012.

Get the feeling Neeld must think he's MAKING A STATEMENT on Gysberts there.

 

[Tulip]

Get the feeling Neeld must think he's MAKING A STATEMENT on Gysberts there.

Bringing in the cultures and all dat jazz.