Speculation Harley Reid [OOC 2026]

[WilloTree]

There really isn't any need for the points system to exist. Time we just let it go.

 

[sydney_gws]

There really isn't any need for the points system to exist. Time we just let it go.

And scrap the academies?
New points curve will help a bit, but even though after 1 go we will all see more changes are needed, AFL will adjust it in about 2030.

 

[briztoon]

There really isn't any need for the points system to exist. Time we just let it go.

I’d happily get rid of all academies, father sons, 5 of the teams in Victoria, extend top 20 picks to 4 year contracts, picks 21 to 40 to 3 year contracts, introduce team options for the next 4 years (so if a team wants to keep a player after their rookie contract, the player has to re-sign with their club), scrap restricted free agency, and scrap compensation picks. And introduce a full home and away season.

But that’s just me.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

And scrap the academies?
New points curve will help a bit, but even though after 1 go we will all see more changes are needed, AFL will adjust it in about 2030.

Scrap the draft.

NRL shows its just not needed

 

[Grumpyshades]

So the premier got access to a top 2 talent. Some rated #1.

And the wooden spooner in 2023 got Harley Reid.

Well the system is half working properly.

The irony is the AFL had zero problems with (arguably) the best player in the draft going to the (northen) premiers.
But just 12 months earlier they (behind the scenes) were trying to manipulate a scenario where Harley didn't go to the team that finished dead last

It doesn't take a genius to connect those dots

 

[sydney_gws]

The irony is the AFL had zero problems with (arguably) the best player in the draft going to the (northen) premiers.
But just 12 months earlier they (behind the scenes) were trying to manipulate a scenario where Harley didn't go to the team that finished dead last

It doesn't take a genius to connect those dots

Was that by giving north pick 3 as compo so eagles trade 1 + something for 2,3?

 

[Grumpyshades]

Was that by giving north pick 3 as compo so eagles trade 1 + something for 2,3?

the whole priority picks package was in part (imo) given to North as a 'war chest' to trade with WC for pick 1.
Not to mention some sections of the AFL 'friendly' media constantly regurgitating the 'Harley is staying in Victoria' narrative.

you'd have to be pretty naive to believe there wasn't conversations with WC about this

all designed to pressure WC in trading pick 1..Glad we didn't fall for it

 

[WilloTree]

And scrap the academies?
New points curve will help a bit, but even though after 1 go we will all see more changes are needed, AFL will adjust it in about 2030.

Why would you scrap the Academies? They're good for jnr pathways into AFL, particularly in remote areas.

 

[Syd]

Scrap the draft.

NRL shows its just not needed

Same NRL thats had the Penrith Panthers win the Premiership the last 4 seasons?

2021/2022/2023/2024

Yep, perfect example of equity there...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Same NRL thats had the Penrith Panthers win the Premiership the last 4 seasons?

2021/2022/2023/2024

Yep, perfect example of equity there...

They have lost players over the last 4 seasons constantly and done a brilliant job in replacing them. Its the best performance we have seen from a sporting club in our lifetimes and they didnt get any favours from the NRL to achieve it.

They replaced departing superstars and plugged in what AFL would call delisted fodder in as replacements who have done the job.

They are proof the system works. In a system like this you lose players despite success for salary reasons. They dont stay together for years on end cos no clubs can afford the trade capital to get these players in and for the players it isnt worth leaving one club at 450k to get 550k elsewhere...

 

[eastfreo75]

I’d happily get rid of all academies, father sons, 5 of the teams in Victoria, extend top 20 picks to 4 year contracts, picks 21 to 40 to 3 year contracts, introduce team options for the next 4 years (so if a team wants to keep a player after their rookie contract, the player has to re-sign with their club), scrap restricted free agency, and scrap compensation picks. And introduce a full home and away season.

But that’s just me.

I love the entitled defend the entitlement.

 

[sydney_gws]

the whole priority picks package was in part (imo) given to North as a 'war chest' to trade with WC for pick 1.
Not to mention some sections of the AFL 'friendly' media constantly regurgitating the 'Harley is staying in Victoria' narrative.

you'd have to be pretty naive to believe there wasn't conversations with WC about this

all designed to pressure WC in trading pick 1..Glad we didn't fall for it

Perhaps due to the offer never

They have lost players over the last 4 seasons constantly and done a brilliant job in replacing them. Its the best performance we have seen from a sporting club in our lifetimes and they didnt get any favours from the NRL to achieve it.

They replaced departing superstars and plugged in what AFL would call delisted fodder in as replacements who have done the job.

They are proof the system works. In a system like this you lose players despite success for salary reasons. They dont stay together for years on end cos no clubs can afford the trade capital to get these players in and for the players it isnt worth leaving one club at 450k to get 550k elsewhere...

They have a far bigger junior nursery than other clubs.

 

[Obeanie1]

Couldn't he agree to sign a 2 year deal for 2027,2028 for say $3.2 million, but if he wants to be traded eagles let him go at end of 2026.
That way if he has serious concussion issues, he would guaranteed that 2027 2028 money.

And that's the risk he takes by not signing.

We just saw a kid drafted and retired due to concussion before playing a game.

From purely a income security perspective why wouldn't he sign for big dollars and an agreement to only move under contract if he did want to move.

Player has security of earnings to take to the bank and start borrowing against.

Club gets their man and control / leverage over any trade if ever requested.

Win. Win.

 

[banzai]

They have lost players over the last 4 seasons constantly and done a brilliant job in replacing them. Its the best performance we have seen from a sporting club in our lifetimes and they didnt get any favours from the NRL to achieve it.

They replaced departing superstars and plugged in what AFL would call delisted fodder in as replacements who have done the job.

They are proof the system works. In a system like this you lose players despite success for salary reasons. They dont stay together for years on end cos no clubs can afford the trade capital to get these players in and for the players it isnt worth leaving one club at 450k to get 550k elsewhere...

NRL has also only had 3 teams finish on top of the ladder in the last 12 years. AFL have had 9 in that time.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

NRL has also only had 3 teams finish on top of the ladder in the last 12 years. AFL have had 9 in that time.

Because it rewards the good teams as opposed to relies on pure luck...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Perhaps due to the offer never

They have a far bigger junior nursery than other clubs.

They do have a bigger junior team.... just like you have a Brisbane has a bigger academy then us....

 

[briztoon]

They do have a bigger junior team.... just like you have a bigger academy then us....

You could have the biggest academy in the competition if WC wanted.

Academy funding is not included in the off field soft cap, you’re the biggest club with the most money, go spend it.

Sydney only has the largest academy because they have a sponsor who puts $1m a year in to it.

99% of their kids are never a genuine draft chance. But Sydney keep rolling kids through their academy.

Last I looked, they average 1 draftee every 2 years.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You could have the biggest academy in the competition if WC wanted.

Academy funding is not included in the off field soft cap, you’re the biggest club with the most money, go spend it.

Sydney only has the largest academy because they have a sponsor who puts $1m a year in to it.

99% of their kids are never a genuine draft chance. But Sydney keep rolling kids through their academy.

Last I looked, they average 1 draftee every 2 years.

Well no. Your academy is funded by the AFL. You receive 23 mill of AFL funding compared to Eagles 10 mill...

 

[briztoon]

Well no. Your academy is funded by the AFL. You receive 23 mill of AFL funding compared to Eagles 10 mill...

We were talking about Sydney’s academy. Why’d you switch goal posts?

Edit: Lions have the smallest academy of the four northern teams btw.

 

[sydney_gws]

You could have the biggest academy in the competition if WC wanted.

Academy funding is not included in the off field soft cap, you’re the biggest club with the most money, go spend it.

Sydney only has the largest academy because they have a sponsor who puts $1m a year in to it.

99% of their kids are never a genuine draft chance. But Sydney keep rolling kids through their academy.

Last I looked, they average 1 draftee every 2 years.

They have to make it for non elite as well to disguise its main purpose. Elite A grade talent on the cheap. I think academies should exist, but don't mind if it is a universal rule that you can't match a top 10 bid.

 

[briztoon]

They have to make it for non elite as well to disguise its main purpose. Elite A grade talent on the cheap. I think academies should exist, but don't mind if it is a universal rule that you can't match a top 10 bid.

The academies wouldn’t work if they were made for just the very elite, potentially draftable kids.

Much like the Victorian talent league clubs, where most of those kids aren’t draftable either.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We were talking about Sydney’s academy. Why’d you switch goal posts?

Edit: Lions have the smallest academy of the four northern teams btw.

Because you support Brisbane. In any case Sydney get 26 mill when we got 10 so that’s not helping

 

[briztoon]

Because you support Brisbane. In any case Sydney get 26 mill when we got 10 so that’s not helping

Funny how the smaller market teams get more revenue hey.

You “only” get $10m because your team earns more money than any other team, so you’re much more profitable.

Pity we’re not like the nba where they have a profit sharing system, where all club revenue goes in to one big pot, then divided equally amongst all teams.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Funny how the smaller market teams get more revenue hey.

You “only” get $10m because your team earns more money than any other team, so you’re much more profitable.

Pity we’re not like the nba where they have a profit sharing system, where all club revenue goes in to one big pot, then divided equally amongst all teams.

Equality you mean ? Yeah let’s not have that.

 

[WilloTree]

Its the best performance we have seen from a sporting club in our lifetimes and they didnt get any favours from the NRL to achieve it.

Wildcats for mine.