Injury Harris Andrews injury updates :(

[CarterS]

Can you go for perjury.

Haha!

 

[CarterS]

Rob O'Neill has shown members of the Tribunal a document with frame-by-frame images of the incident. He is arguing that Cameron had 6/50ths of a second to brace for contact, after initially attempting to spoil. He says that action is careless, but not enough to intentionally strike Andrews.

Rob O'Neill is now showing an incident involving Kurt Tippett and Dylan Grimes, which has been graded as careless. He submits that if Tippett's effort was a realistic attempt to spoil the ball or protect himself, Cameron's cannot be classified as intentional/

What was said on the weekend was that an elbow above 90 degrees is automatically intentional so this stuff should be moot. That was Eddie Maguire going on what he was "told by experts" so who knows...

 

[BRAB]

If this "I was trying to spoil" the ball argument gets up it'll be ridiculous.

 

[Harris Specter]

Whatever ridiculous penalty is given to Cameron won't be enough. It's because it happened to a player from a non Victorian club. Imagine the uproar if someone like Martin, Pendlebury or Daniher had been the one hit by Cameron.

Makes my blood boil to this day.

 

[a mayes ing]

Apparantly the text he sent him was "Feel sick at the way it panned out. Hope there is no lasting damage. YOu are going to be a champion mate. Jezza"

How do you know that was the message?

 

[CarterS]

How do you know that was the message?

Came up on twitter which I think is sourced from a Herald Sun bit.

 

[a mayes ing]

Came up on twitter which I think is sourced from a Herald Sun bit.

If it was, they hould use that as evidence to show that he didn't actually apologised. He basically sayd that he wanted to hit him without the intention to have it that serious

 

[deklares]

Feel like this push narrative could be pivotal

 

[CarterS]

O'Neill is also suggesting the push from Darcy Gardiner thrust Cameron into the contest, via the push prior to the incident.

Darcy's fault!!

 

[a mayes ing]

Surely they will see the vision and see that his hand is just placed on the back and there was no force in it

 

[Gadzorks]

If he was genuinely going for the ball (but he wasn't) his hands would have been raised, not his elbow.

 

[pulpdriver]

AFL should have brought in a physicist as a witness. No ****ing way that push gives Cameron any of the momentum needed. This whole defence is patently ridiculous.

 

[Gadzorks]

Poor old darcy Gardiner.

 

[CarterS]

If he was genuinely going for the ball (but he wasn't) his hands would have been raised, not his elbow.

He is claiming he was in action of raising fist for spoil, saw Harris half way through, tried to protect himself. Agree with you though.

 

[BRAB]

He is claiming he was in action of raising fist for spoil, saw Harris half way through, tried to protect himself. Agree with you though.

There's a gif posted here that disproves both these arguments. Lmao.

 

[Dalions]

Nick Pane QC is arguing that Tippett and Membrey were closer to impacting on the ball than Cameron was. He says the incident involving Tom Jonas and Andrew Gaff is a more comparable example. That incident was graded as intentional. O'Neill says Jonas was never a realistic chance of getting to the ball, whereas Cameron was.

 

[deklares]

They are arguing Cameron was a realistic chance of getting the ball...

 

[kylegee28]

Carn' Paney!

 

[CarterS]

They are arguing Cameron was a realistic chance of getting the ball...

Could have built a new woolworths in the time between the ball coming in and Cameron.

 

[pulpdriver]

They are arguing Cameron was a realistic chance of getting the ball...

If he had looked at it he might have been.

 

[CarterS]

The Tribunal will now deliberate.

 

[jackess]

Is that it?

 

[a mayes ing]

Tribunal now deliberating? Isn't there any part where the QC tries to prove that it was intentional? Basically just heard from Cameron's lawyer

 

[Gadzorks]

Time arguing seems to favour Cameron. Not report of eyes not on te ball. Leading with elbow. Am I missing something??

 

[Dalions]

It was pretty clear in the slowed down clip on here yesterday that he was never going for the ball!