Punch on would have been better.
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Ok good - we agree that Ken embarrassed himself.Yes. I've already called out Hinkley's floggery (dunno if you've noticed but as a rule us Port supporters generally aren't huge fans of the guy). You're the one ignoring Sicily's and Ginnivan's floggery. Any one of the three of them just had to have acted like a normal human being and Breust would've gotten the sendoff he deserved.
So the guy who wins a final but focuses on a player from the losing team is the bigger person?
Geez man - that's some mental gymnastics there
Ginnivan and Sicily had just lost a final.Because Hawthorn and Ginnivan is supposedly the victim here. And Sicily is the White Knight riding in to defend the down trodden.
That is real mental gymnastics.
Hawthorn had a whole week to retract or apologise about that statement and did nothing. So I love it that Ken gave him a spray.
Yep. As did Ginnivan. As did Sicily.Ok good - we agree that Ken embarrassed himself.
No, absolutely not. Why would I agree to that? They're all adults. They're all professionals. One of them is even your captain.The next step is to agree that, as a senior coach in the AFL (one of only 18) he has a responsibility that is more/higher than that of players. (which includes Ginnivan and Sicily).
Ginnivan was the initiator. Hinkley responded to Ginnivan. Sicily responded to Hinkley. And again, any one of the three acts like a normal human being, none of this hits the news and Breust gets the chairing off he deserves.Having said that - Sicily was responding, not initiating. You can't blame the retaliator for what the initiator did. Surely you see that?
Why would we be having the time of our lives we haven't won anything just extended the season by a week.Anyway- port played well and their pressure was insane tonight. Deserved every bit of that win. I hope every port supporter is having the time of their life despite their embarrassing coach.
Poor poor attempt at a strawmanA 100 year old marrying an18 year old is fine because they're both adults
Sure it's legal but it's still weird
That fire in Sam Mitchell is going to burn for a while, Hawks will be out to get Port for a few seasons after this
Anyway- port played well and their pressure was insane tonight. Deserved every bit of that win. I hope every port supporter is having the time of their life despite their embarrassing coach.
Nah you're presenting all the actions as equivalentYep. As did Ginnivan. As did Sicily.
No, absolutely not. Why would I agree to that? They're all adults. They're all professionals. One of them is even your captain.
Ginnivan was the initiator. Hinkley responded to Ginnivan. Sicily responded to Hinkley. And again, any one of the three acts like a normal human being, none of this hits the news and Breust gets the chairing off he deserves.
Boring.Nah you're presenting all the actions as equivalent
1. Gininivan posts a tweet. sure port people get offended by it - but at this stage two teams are gearing up for a semi final.
2. Port win (awesome win btw). And at THIS POINT Ken decides to have a crack at Ginni. Not at any point during the week, or the lead up - he waiting until after the game like an absolutely pathetic grub.
3. Sicily, a captain, stood up for his teammate.
I reckon one of these actions is a little different to the other two. Do you think they're all the same?
The only reason you see a difference in embarrassment level between the three actions is because two of the actions were done by Hawthorn players.Nah you're presenting all the actions as equivalent
1. Gininivan posts a tweet. sure port people get offended by it - but at this stage two teams are gearing up for a semi final.
2. Port win (awesome win btw). And at THIS POINT Ken decides to have a crack at Ginni. Not at any point during the week, or the lead up - he waiting until after the game like an absolutely pathetic grub.
3. Sicily, a captain, stood up for his teammate.
I reckon one of these actions is a little different to the other two. Do you think they're all the same?
Ok so maybe this is where we disagreeThe only reason you see a difference in embarrassment level between the three actions is because two of the actions were done by Hawthorn players.
I'm actually one of the rare opposition supporters who likes Ginni, funnily enough. But you talk shit and you lose, shit is gonna get talked back. It's a tale as old as time.
Aww, poor us. respect us 'cause we lost but it's ok for our players to talk shit during the week.Ok so maybe this is where we disagree
Are you ok with your coach acting like a sore winner and focusing on Hawthorn players as soon as the siren goes after a great finals victory? Yes or no?
No. I've said that like five times now, how many more times do I need to say it?Ok so maybe this is where we disagree
Are you ok with your coach acting like a sore winner and focusing on Hawthorn players as soon as the siren goes after a great finals victory? Yes or no?
Ok so we agree that Ken acted embarrassingly.No. I've said that like five times now, how many more times do I need to say it?
Only one of us is ignoring the representatives of our club acting like massive flogs, and it's not me.
Who are you and what are you on about?Aww, poor us. respect us 'cause we lost but it's ok for our players to talk shit during the week.
Pull your ****ing head in.
Yeah, this is the sixth time I've said that now. Are you dense? Do you need a Year 3 reading comprehension lesson to help explain these last couple of pages to you?Ok so we agree that Ken acted embarrassingly.
That's been my point the whole time - not sure why you've been arguing with it. But at least we got to an agreement. Thank you
So it's fine for the 2 midget dwarves to showboat after a win cosplaying as wizards, and dismiss and disrespect opponents in the lead up to games, but it's not ok if someone fires back??Ginnivan and Sicily had just lost a final.
Ken had just won one.
For Ken to go and initiate some trash talk at that point is embarrassing. I'm not talking about victims - I'm talking about who made themself out to be a total fool
Ken could have been celebrating with his boys -instead he was talking to hawthorn players. And he's a coach.
Your world view is shit.As a neutral, i thought it was great to see Hinkley dishing it out to Ginnivan. Winners are grinners. All the carry on and apologizing is indicative of where are as a society - everyone is so easily offended.