Opinion Has this Carlton list already peaked?

[WalshistheGOAT]

They were best 15 players!!

And neither would have made a scrap of difference tonight

 

[THE_GUN]

Terrible game plan and terrible bottom 10 as eade said
and alot of conditional players that are 1 paced

 

[doppleganger]

And neither would have made a scrap of difference tonight

Agree, that was Carlton at their absolute best.

Heroic effort from the Baggers.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Agree, that was Carlton at their absolute best.

Heroic effort from the Baggers.

This year? Probably. Would help if Elijah came back to actually kick a ball to a Blues player inside 50. Everyone else seemed to be more interested in trying to hit the moon.

 

[doppleganger]

This year? Probably. Would help if Elijah came back to actually kick a ball to a Blues player inside 50. Everyone else seemed to be more interested in trying to hit the moon.

As a fan you just want effort and commitment, Blues gave it a crack.

The players just aren't that good, hence poor skills.

If they keep cracking in at least will be worth watching each week. Go Baggers.

 

[PP34]

Agree, that was Carlton at their absolute best.

Heroic effort from the Baggers.

It was a pathetic effort and I’m honestly not even sure why I bother barracking and watching Carlton anymore.

It’s been the same pathetic garbage for a decade now with this group. Before that there was like five minutes of okay footy under Ratten and before that an entire childhood of horrific football memories.

I thought footy was meant to be enjoyable.

Watching this Carlton team makes you want to gouge your eyes out.

 

[PP34]

As a fan you just want effort and commitment, Blues gave it a crack.

The players just aren't that good, hence poor skills.

If they keep cracking in at least will be worth watching each week. Go Baggers.

No as a fan I’d like to watch my team actually win some games.

Spare the well done your team tried hard BS

 

[SSSSSS]

Carlton started their current rebuild in 2013 when we were winning flags. We win two more, bottom out and somehow we've rebuilded quicker than they have.

Hilarious.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Carlton started their current rebuild in 2013 when we were winning flags. We win two more, bottom out and somehow we've rebuilded quicker than they have.

Hilarious.

Started in 2015 but point remains

 

[Bluechip66]

It is very sad!

 

[Delisted]

Where are Carlton fans heads at? Toss the Voss? Hold out and see if you can turn it around. Where’s Moir and Binns at?

 

[matey]

Eade’s assessment of Carlton’s list is so so correct …… their bottom 10 is very average at best!

 

[THE_GUN]

Carlton started their current rebuild in 2013 when we were winning flags. We win two more, bottom out and somehow we've rebuilded quicker than they have.

Hilarious.

They actually started their rebuild the year before Trent Cotchin & Mathew Kreuzer were drafted
#1 - Murphy
#1 - Gibbs
#1 - Kreuzer

Remember them

 

[doppleganger]

Started in 2015 but point remains

Plenty of vivid memories of SOS era.

What a great time it was for Carlton fans, full of hope and green shoots.

With so many top draft picks just sit back and wait for the Blues to become premiership contenders

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Plenty of vivid memories of SOS era.

What a great time it was for Carlton fans, full of hope and green shoots.

With so many top draft picks just sit back and wait for the Blues to become premiership contenders

It was a simpler time back then. A simple tackle from Jarrod Pickett was almost enough to believe things were finally turning around.

 

[PP34]

Never saw the vision with Silvagni, same with a couple of others and we were told time and time again by other Carlton supporters we would be wrong.

The same deficiencies in 2016/2017 are still here today.

Fumbly, unskilled footballers who try hard but don’t possess a lot of proper footballing ability.

Countless whiffed draft picks who never amounted to nothing.

We never showed a great level of skill with these youngsters back then. I don’t know why people magically expected us to find skill one day.

Why the club has so many slow contested type footballers is something I simply can’t comprehend. Footy hasn’t been played like that successfully in years.

 

[Mr Meow]

Sam Walsh tonight:

-8 turnovers (game high)
-1 score involvement
-50% disposal efficiency

Not good enough.

When he's having high impact contributions and is damaging, Carlton look pretty good. When he's pedestrian or a liability with ball in hand, their midfield is simply not skilful or dynamic enough.

 

[Daka]

They drafted & recruited vanilla players & play it safe far too much.
They have so many players on their list that do the same thing & don't have other strings to their bow.

 

[Fadge]

Sam Walsh tonight:

-8 turnovers (game high)
-1 score involvement
-50% disposal efficiency

Not good enough.

When he's having high impact contributions and is damaging, Carlton look pretty good. When he's pedestrian or a liability with ball in hand, their midfield is simply not skilful or dynamic enough.

The difference was there for all to see last night.

Hawthorn use their hands to get the ball out to space, to give a good ball user the time and space to make a good decision and use it effectively.

I can't recall a kick from Walsh that wasn't a mongrel punt that went 40 to 50 metres in the direction of Carlton's goals, without even looking where he was kicking it...

 

[Chunky09]

The first 2 games this season they have looked to fade out badly in the last quarter, conditioning looks off.

This on top of atrocious skill errors and a defence that looks very shaky.

Yes they rely on Cripps to carry their midfield, but to me the problem lies with their reliance on Weitering to absolutely do everything down back, if he goes down they are absolutely fugged

 

[beema limapep]

Carlton have an absence of afl level players in the bottom 25. Top 6 are good. Next 6 or so are medocre.

Their fans don't see it that way yet wonder why they keep losing.

Also there is poor team chemistry.

As long as everyone there keeps believing the list is one of the best in the comp, they will continue to be dissapointed.

And the cycle continues.

 

[beema limapep]

Carltons list reminds me of the St Kilda days of the early 90s when they had Lockett, Lowe, Harvey, Burke, Winmar and Frawley. A grade players but as an overall list after that it fell away pretty sharply.

They had a couple of seasons in the late 90s where they did well including a GF in 1997 but they never had a premiership list in hindsight. Too reliant on too few.

 

[Cleric]

Carlton windows is closing real quick.
They are paying big Harry, big money, for small benefit.
There's not one missing peice of the puzzle either, it's a list wide problem, and they lack cap space to go on a shopping trip.

With the Tassie team coming in their ability to rebuild is also shot.

 

[beema limapep]

Hypothetical - McKay for Stkildas pick 7.

Yes or no?

 

[SSSSSS]

The Chols Royce is on 1/3rd of McKay/Curnow's wage and he has done more than both of them combined this season.