List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management for 2025

[Scrads]

Usually do one of these before the trade period but was caught-up with other stuff this year so here is my post-trade period update! This is what I have at the moment. As you can see, firstly the list is STACKED in terms of talent (which we already knew) but is also pretty close to being completely full as it is. If what I have is correct, then we have 36 primary list, 4 Cat A and 1 Cat B locked in for next year which leaves us with limited options in terms of drafting next month and SSP/MSD in 2025.

If I had to guess, I'd say we are likely to delist-then-rookie one or both of Gunston and/or Breust for flexibility. Regardless, we can only intake a max of 2 players to primary/Cat A list at the moment plus the option of another Cat B player if we want (which I suspect we will re-sign Bennetts with).

As usual, if you spot any mistakes then please let me know

 

[Manila_Hawk]

We have a very solid team... and Barrass and Battle will make it better.

MM has been kicking "recruiting goals" from the second row of the grandstand for a good while now.

I'm not even tuning in for Mr. P's trade week countdown anymore.

Hokball - and they will come.

 

[peetoo]

If barass and battle is even half as good as getting Brian lake

Brian Lake

Age

42

Ht

195cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

6.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

163.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

4.6

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.6

3star

…..bring it on

 

[SammyC]

Where the hell are you getting this idea that Ramma will be preferred to Reeves?!

Reeves is our 2nd ruck unless he decides to move elsewhere. He has shown far more than both Ramma and Soldo have.

He is pretty equivalent to soldo and i think that says enough. I’d argue ned is near his ceiling.

if it’s not next year that ramma passes him, it will be the one after. i can definitely foresee a circumstance where given the opportunity and some strong box hill form they decide to give the younger bloke a run at it.

i reckon ned will see the writing on the wall and take game time and tenure elsewhere.

i’m just saying we shouldn’t expect much in return for a 26 year old back up ruck who doesn’t seem to have much growth ahead.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

He is pretty equivalent to soldo and i think that says enough. I’d argue ned is near his ceiling.

if it’s not next year that ramma passes him, it will be the one after. i can definitely foresee a circumstance where given the opportunity and some strong box hill form they decide to give the younger bloke a run at it.

i reckon ned will see the writing on the wall and take game time and tenure elsewhere.

i’m just saying we shouldn’t expect much in return for a 26 year old back up ruck who doesn’t seem to have much growth ahead.

Honestly, I couldn’t disagree more with this.

The one position of real strength is our ruck stocks and you want to weaken it unnecessarily because Rama signed for an additional year.

We don’t have to have the best ruckmen in the competition, but we have a strong competitor and very good back up.

A 26 year old ruckman has the best years of his career ahead. Do you know how old Jordon Sweet is? He was pretty good when given his chance and then kept Soldo out.

I think you are being totally unfair when you say Reeves has no growth

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

He is a good guy. Played very well for Vermont before Covid had players moving everywhere

And was on significantly more money there than he was at the Hawks.

 

[CliffMcTainshaw]

Was it the surgery that went bad?
I thought it was multiple infections that followed, requiring further procedures?

Golden Staph is what I heard. According to my surgeon neighbour the odds are about 1 in 300 people who have an operation will get a Golden Staph infection. Has improved from 30 years ago when it was about 1 in 15.

 

[SammyC]

Honestly, I couldn’t disagree more with this.

The one position of real strength is our ruck stocks and you want to weaken it unnecessarily because Rama signed for an additional year.

We don’t have to have the best ruckmen in the competition, but we have a strong competitor and very good back up.

A 26 year old ruckman has the best years of his career ahead. Do you know how old Jordon Sweet is? He was pretty good when given his chance and then kept Soldo out.

I think you are being totally unfair when you say Reeves has no growth

to be clear, i don’t want to weaken it. If he stays that is good for us, ready to go back up and a young bloke who hopefully has more upside.

I was just saying think we need to be realistic that ned is likely to be pursued and if i was in his shoes would jump ship. Also saying that if that eventuates, we aren’t getting much back regardless of his contract status.

i hope he stays, we’d be very exposed if lloyd gets injured. But he’s a back up for us, worth more to others, and not much trade value.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I'm so interested in what would happen to our midfield if we did get another A grader.

Looks like we pulled out of both Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

and Perryman options (and Perryman isn't A grade in my view).

But if we had Newcombe, Day, Worpel, Nash + A grader - where would the 2 go that aren't playing RR, Rover or Centre? and what flow on would that have for the rest of the best 22/team.

 

[Dewwwww]

I'm so interested in what would happen to our midfield if we did get another A grader.

Looks like we pulled out of both Bailey Smith and Perryman options (and Perryman isn't A grade in my view).

But if we had Newcombe, Day, Worpel, Nash + A grader - where would the 2 go that aren't playing RR, Rover or Centre? and what flow on would that have for the rest of the best 22/team.

Fair chance after another 40 odd games that extra A grader will either be MacKenzie or Ward

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I'm so interested in what would happen to our midfield if we did get another A grader.

Looks like we pulled out of both Bailey Smith and Perryman options (and Perryman isn't A grade in my view).

But if we had Newcombe, Day, Worpel, Nash + A grader - where would the 2 go that aren't playing RR, Rover or Centre? and what flow on would that have for the rest of the best 22/team.

Hopefully that A grader is Mackenzie in a few years.

I think it would just mean that the main four midfielders spend a little more time rotating through the forward line. Newcombe and Day can have an impact there already, but Nash and Worpel really need to work on this area of their game. Maybe Nash can spend time playing relief ruck too, which is a role he's pretty handy at IMO.

 

[The Seaword]

Any side with 2 Josh Weddles in it is my kind of team!

Could we get greedy and ask for 3?

 

[seysearles]

I'm so interested in what would happen to our midfield if we did get another A grader.

Looks like we pulled out of both Bailey Smith and Perryman options (and Perryman isn't A grade in my view).

But if we had Newcombe, Day, Worpel, Nash + A grader - where would the 2 go that aren't playing RR, Rover or Centre? and what flow on would that have for the rest of the best 22/team.

The club had high hopes for Henry Husthwaite this season which never really came to fruition but clearly the kid has some talent. Hopefully he just needed this extra year of development and we discover that that A grader was already on our list all along.

 

[MatteeG]

Hopefully that A grader is Mackenzie in a few months.

Corrected

 

[lordbob]

Is he? Pretty equivalent i reckon.

He was our 2nd ruck and we’ve just extended our 3rd who we will probably play ahead of him from here on.

this would mean ned is our 3rd string ruck moving fwd - hardly solid ground for anything more than a pick in the 40s.

but he is contracted. we can dictate the price remember?

 

[theiaofseed]

I'm so interested in what would happen to our midfield if we did get another A grader.

Looks like we pulled out of both Bailey Smith and Perryman options (and Perryman isn't A grade in my view).

But if we had Newcombe, Day, Worpel, Nash + A grader - where would the 2 go that aren't playing RR, Rover or Centre? and what flow on would that have for the rest of the best 22/team.

Newcombe(73%), Worpel(69%), Nash(65%) and Day(61% even with his injury interrupted season). Interesting to see if they change the bench to 5 and how that will play into the CBA roles. I think it would quite easy to get another mid with solid CBA numbers without changing much to the team balance, though most teams seem to roll with just the 4 so it's not pressing need.

 

[Dewnior]

Fair chance after another 40 odd games that extra A grader will either be MacKenzie or Ward

Or both

 

[HedgeFund]

Fair chance after another 40 odd games that extra A grader will either be MacKenzie or Ward

Probably both TBF

 

[user33]

equal premiership favourites with Brisbane for next year

 

[peetoo]

Newcombe(73%), Worpel(69%), Nash(65%) and Day(61% even with his injury interrupted season). Interesting to see if they change the bench to 5 and how that will play into the CBA roles. I think it would quite easy to get another mid with solid CBA numbers without changing much to the team balance, though most teams seem to roll with just the 4 so it's not pressing need.

Find room for Weddle and Sicily

 

[Roddy]

equal premiership favourites with Brisbane for next year

Is that even without Barrass and Battle officially in our colours?

Edit: just checked, it’s true. A smidgeon surprised at that.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

Is that even without Barrass and Battle officially in our colours?

Edit: just checked, it’s true. A smidgeon surprised at that.

Those odds definitely factoring in Barrass and Battle coming in, Lewis returning mid year and natural improvement from one of the youngest lists.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Hopefully players don't buy into this talk about premiership favouritism. We still have a lot of work to do.

 

[kirbatron]

Hopefully players don't buy into this talk about premiership favouritism. We still have a lot of work to do.

the players are already back running... the hungriest group you won't find any other

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

the players are already back running... the hungriest group you won't find any other

Our 3peat group where pretty hungry

 

[mustang]

So the premiership team is a team that plays very much like our 3peat style of play and took our record of most makes in a GF, is our game heading in the right direction as Brisbane beat GWS who play like us with this style, and Sydney who do not as play at all cost style as what we play but still have some of how we play in there game style got smash also.