Autopsy Hawks v Pies

[Pessimistic]

Treloar was asked on SEN by kingy why pies mids get so much possession yet generate very little

 

[Flag08]

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Add to that the fact that Elliott looks cheaper than a two-bit hooker with the peroxide dip he gave himself last week ...

Well that hair cut has worked well for JJ....

 

[Pessimistic]

Schoey could have just as easily broken his own nose.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-03/injury-wrap-more-pain-for-dees-freo-blow

This is what I was looking for. Shoe completing a nice kick under Goldsack pressure. Ended in nice goal to bruest

Also below is a wide shot just before Schoeys second goal Issy has the ball, but who needs wingers when youve got Shoey (top blue) and o'brien (lower blue)
Watch Hawthorn23 highlight package for the result


six seconds later runs in to score


Gunner got up there too. Pretty mobile tall forwards/wingers

 

[William Wonka]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-03/injury-wrap-more-pain-for-dees-freo-blow

This is what I was looking for. Shoe completing a nice kick under Goldsack pressure. Ended in nice goal to bruest

Also below is a wide shot just before Schoeys second goal Issy has the ball, but who needs wingers when youve got Shoey (top blue) and o'brien (lower blue)
Watch Hawthorn23 highlight package for the result

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six seconds later runs in to score
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Gunner got up there too. Pretty mobile tall forwards/wingers

Think you may have missed the point I was trying to make.
I wasn't bagging Schoey- I like him as a foward and on the wing. I was just saying any contact he made that broke an opponents nose would have been completely accidental and he is NOT in any way a sniper.
Just a bit clumsy at times.

 

[Pessimistic]

Think you may have missed the point I was trying to make.
I wasn't bagging Schoey- I like him as a forward and on the wing. I was just saying any contact he made that broke an opponents nose would have been completely accidental and he is NOT in any way a sniper.
Just a bit clumsy at times.

Wasnt taking any offence I noted that you said it was Goldsack and I thought Fasolo. Im just having a lot of fun, and it may be developing that the loss of Hill need not be on Hartungs shoulders alone

 

[William Wonka]

Wasnt taking any offence I noted that you said it was Goldsack and I thought Fasolo. Im just having a lot of fun, and it may be developing that the loss of Hill need not be on Hartungs shoulders alone

Schoeys best weapon is his field kicking- you dont need to break lines when you can kick 60+ meter bombs over them.

 

[bris tarangau]

What has happened to the set shots for goals? Schoey, Roughy, missed a couple of easy ones, the ones that they would have kicked easily. I thought this caused them to have doubts and we started seeing those 'silly' passes within F50 which were intercepted easily by the magpies.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Schoeys best weapon is his field kicking- you dont need to break lines when you can kick 60+ meter bombs over them.

I keep thinking because of his gift with ball in hand they should slim him down and make him a Gunston type player where he covers far more yards.

I dont ever recall him having OP, hammy or groin issues or breaking down due to over work.

 

[Steven Tyler]

That Hartung error was a bit of a mix up, I don't think he was avoiding contact.

My seat is in the pocket, I'm only 50 metres from the goal square: he seemed to hesitate because another Hawk defender was nearby, then fumbled and it fell to the opposition.

Billy's going all right, he's not Darren Pritchard yet, but he's getting there.
A bit of confidence in his ability and he'll be a good player.

Darrin

 

[Pessimistic]

I keep thinking because of his gift with ball in hand they should slim him down and make him a Gunston type player where he covers far more yards.

I dont ever recall him having OP, hammy or groin issues or breaking down due to over work.

Has had a very talked about groin at one point

 

[Gralin]

I keep thinking because of his gift with ball in hand they should slim him down and make him a Gunston type player where he covers far more yards.

I dont ever recall him having OP, hammy or groin issues or breaking down due to over work.

so you've already blocked last year and Schoey's grumbly groin from your memory, well played

 

[hk89]

Is Schoenmakers a sniper? Serious question. I don't know his history. Looks like his forearm broke Goldsack's nose. Just clumsy? I wonder.

According to this footage of the game, I'd say yes:

Appeared to take out several of your stars. At least quite a few seemed to be MIA.

 

[JoeHawk]

Looking at the ladder in the highlights... how hard must it be for Pies fans knowing that Hawthorn are already ahead of them in their rebuild.

Wouldn't get too excited yet. Got some tough games coming up. Time to assess progress is at end of year.

 

[LuckyHawk]

Did anyone else notice Hartung failing to put his body behind the ball in the second quarter 10 meters out from our goal................That was real bad.

His effort was Clinton Young like, just so poor. Exactly the wrong player in our team to be in a situation like that. Billy also does
some good stuff but l wish he'd make decisions a lot quicker instead of half panicking then hand balling backwards and puting
the onus on some one else to kick to advantage when a lot of times they're in no better position.

 

[dipper86]

It wasn't not being willing he was just confused and it was a defensive screw up, He's not exactly someone we'd want on the last line of defense anyway. Same sort of thing people would get mad at Brad Hill for, just not that sort of player.

Call it what you like, the ball bounced past Birchall in Hartungs direction, he failed to bend over and pick it up, he stood up-right, the ball then went straight through him and ultimately an easy goal was kicked.
So because we don't want him on the last line does that mean he shouldn't chase his opponent into our back 50. Because that's exactly what he did.
To put simply he's got to be better than that. It was a sh*t play.