Autopsy Hawks vs Saints - tear it apart here

[The Lemon]

Those few times TOB got caught down back made me smile. That reading of the play was great, he just needs more exposure to that intensity. I'd prefer he got a long run this year.

 

[HairyO]

Is there a thread on how they lost the game by missing an easy shot at goal in the last couple of minutes?

Or where they got a mark from a kick that went 10m and got a goal from it?

Both sides had good and bad calls. Hard to believe but umpires make mistakes.

And of course the media only focus on some of them.

 

[Agent Smith]

Those few times TOB got caught down back made me smile. That reading of the play was great, he just needs more exposure to that intensity. I'd prefer he got a long run this year.

Roughie TOB for CHB!!!!

 

[Hawk-in-syd]

Do you reckon Gibbo was just rested or actually had an issue? I guess we will never know.

I think if it was a big game gibbo and shoe may have played. The six day break and the need to get games into the kids may have swayed them. We'll never know but if they both play this week.

 

[JustKickIt]

Or where they got a mark from a kick that went 10m and got a goal from it?

Both sides had good and bad calls. Hard to believe but umpires make mistakes.

And of course the media only focus on some of them.

Yep it's happened to us a few times (a couple of Geelong games come to mind). I think the thread venting is fair enough, same would happen here, but I don't remember any media frenzy about our umpiring howlers at the time; just more crap about some curse.

 

[JustKickIt]

Adam H has totally lost the plot in the blaming the umpire thread
At this rate he is going to be in a straight jacket by morning

Getting close to having a defamation action against him

 

[Noneedforaname]

Roughie TOB for CHB!!!!

Only until Rough comes back!

 

[TyHawk]

People forget that breust missed a simple set shot five minutes before Mcartin and we kicked more points so no excuses tO the saints
Missing chances. Umpiring was poor both ways as in the first qtr hodge hardly touched the saints player who fell
Over from shitting himself more than anything else!
Not sure why there is ' a Lewis Hate Club' , he
Was enormous in the last qtr and was everywhere around the ground in the last 10 minutes!

 

[Big Hotdog]

Good mate who is a die hard Saint. He hasnt mentioned the "playe on" call once.
Some of those clown on the main board thread will be banging on about this for weeks/years.ig

It's a big deal to beat the Hawks, and they didnt.

 

[tige19]

Yes Lewis. Between 2008 and now he was an essential part of that group.

So was Shane Clayton for North Melbourne.. Lewis is a good footballer not once in a generation

 

[MinerBoy]

So was Shane Clayton for North Melbourne.. Lewis is a good footballer not once in a generation

I think you're right in that regard, in that he isn't once in a generation. He's still been a mile ahead of those players you mentioned in a previous post (Cunnington etc) and any comparison with Shane Clayton is pure silliness. Lewis hasn't just been an important part of the team, he's been a major part of our climb back up the mountain and our best or close to in more than 1 grand final.

I also notice you didn't pick up on Birch as not being a once in a gen despite him having about the easiest role in the team and never having to sacrifice his own game like Lewis has for the good of the team.

Birch is a 6 foot 4 mountain who never takes the big guys and is basically given a free run as a backman to run around accumulating touches. That's great for the team as his ball use is a great asset but as an out and out defender he ain't that great and often gets outpointed one on one by players quite a bit smaller than him.

Not a go at Birch mind you just interesting you chose Lewis out there and made no comment on Birch.

 

[tige19]

That's a harsh assessment. Jordan Lewis has been very very good for us. Him, Buddy & Rough all coming in at the same time was very important to this sustained period of success.

When did I say he hasn't? I said he's not a once in generaion player, do I have to repeat myself 10 times?

 

[tige19]

I think you're right in that regard, in that he isn't once in a generation. He's still been a mile ahead of those players you mentioned in a previous post (Cunnington etc) and any comparison with Shane Clayton is pure silliness. Lewis hasn't just been an important part of the team, he's been a major part of our climb back up the mountain and our best or close to in more than 1 grand final.

I also notice you didn't pick up on Birch as not being a once in a gen despite him having about the easiest role in the team and never having to sacrifice his own game like Lewis has for the good of the team.

Birch is a 6 foot 4 mountain who never takes the big guys and is basically given a free run as a backman to run around accumulating touches. That's great for the team as his ball use is a great asset but as an out and out defender he ain't that great and often gets outpointed one on one by players quite a bit smaller than him.

Not a go at Birch mind you just interesting you chose Lewis out there and made no comment on Birch.

Spot on, Birch is in the same category. Once in a generation player is the Abletts/buddy's/Fyfes and you can probably throw in Mitch and Hodge from our side if you want to stretch it.

People throw around these terms willy nilly, if everyone thought Lewis was a once in a generation player then we'd have 40 of them playing at the moment.

 

[nickrebellious]

We need a return of the Jordan Lewis Mafia.

 

[hawksalltheway]

Those few times TOB got caught down back made me smile. That reading of the play was great, he just needs more exposure to that intensity. I'd prefer he got a long run this year.

totally agree - thought he looked great, very sure hands, especially that half volley he picked up on the run in the last quarter....i was very impressed
also, i know he got caught a couple of times, but i like that he backed himself to take it on...avoided a couple of tackles first too....once he gets up to speed of the top flight, he looks a star #23

 

[OzJohnnie]

I put that down to aggression. We didn't attack the ball as hard as we have done in crunch games in the past.

The Cats out aggro-ed us, as did the Saints and the Doggies for much of that match.

I think that for good parts of last year and this year so far our players are finding it difficult to muster the intensity needed to smash a team. It must be incredibly hard to back up each week, each training session, each year with that level of commitment. This is a campaign for their sixth consecutive grand final appearance, after all.

I think we're finding that other teams are mustering the resolve to be absolutely committed, easier to do when you're coming from behind and making up distance, and our players are, understandably, having trouble turning the dial up to 11 yet again.

I hope that a second wind is again discovered this year like it was last year in round nine.

 

[MinerBoy]

The Cats out aggro-ed us, as did the Saints and the Doggies for much of that match.

I think that for good parts of last year and this year so far our players are finding it difficult to muster the intensity needed to smash a team. It must be incredibly hard to back up each week, each training session, each year with that level of commitment. This is a campaign for their sixth consecutive grand final appearance, after all.

I think we're finding that other teams are mustering the resolve to be absolutely committed, easier to do when you're coming from behind and making up distance, and our players are, understandably, having trouble turning the dial up to 11 yet again.

I hope that a second wind is again discovered this year like it was last year in round nine.

I think we want to win it from outside the top 4 just to troll everyone else.

 

[OzJohnnie]

Vanilla gets a bad rap, imo.

Ice, ice, baby?

 

[The Lemon]

totally agree - thought he looked great, very sure hands, especially that half volley he picked up on the run in the last quarter....i was very impressed
also, i know he got caught a couple of times, but i like that he backed himself to take it on...avoided a couple of tackles first too....once he gets up to speed of the top flight, he looks a star #23

Just needs to know he belongs.

 

[LuckyHawk]

Players cop it, coaches cop it and umpires should cop it too, they're getting paid and its not as if they're making errors competing.
I get sick of hearing "we were too small to play footy", all short people in body and short people in mind.
I love criticising them, after all it makes me feel good.

 

[Davo23]

We need a return of the Jordan Lewis Mafia.

Yes, I'm here!
Lewis and Roughie have copped it for years from nongs who watch on TV and don't have a clue what their roles are. The idiots then show up on the game day thread and make stupid remarks which only confirms their ignorance.

A message from the Jordan Lewis Mafia: "go to the game, don't just watch the ball, watch what Lewis is doing, see where he runs, who he plays on, what his instructions are, then come on here and tell us about it".

I bet you won't, though.

 

[hawkeye77]

People still think Howe over O'Rourke?

No definitely not. Howe will become a player but he's not there yet. O'rourke would've offered us far more on Saturday.

 

[Silent Hawk]

The Cats out aggro-ed us, as did the Saints and the Doggies for much of that match.

I think that for good parts of last year and this year so far our players are finding it difficult to muster the intensity needed to smash a team. It must be incredibly hard to back up each week, each training session, each year with that level of commitment. This is a campaign for their sixth consecutive grand final appearance, after all.

Just wanted to correct you - we are going for our 5th consecutive GF spot

 

[11sjw]

Yes, I'm here!
Lewis and Roughie have copped it for years from nongs who watch on TV and don't have a clue what their roles are. The idiots then show up on the game day thread and make stupid remarks which only confirms their ignorance.

A message from the Jordan Lewis Mafia: "go to the game, don't just watch the ball, watch what Lewis is doing, see where he runs, who he plays on, what his instructions are, then come on here and tell us about it".

I bet you won't, though.

All I would ask is that inside the confines of him playing his role, when the ball comes your way "one grab it."

 

[bris tarangau]

Spot on, Birch is in the same category. Once in a generation player is the Abletts/buddy's/Fyfes and you can probably throw in Mitch and Hodge from our side if you want to stretch it.

People throw around these terms willy nilly, if everyone thought Lewis was a once in a generation player then we'd have 40 of them playing at the moment.

Only Judas, but only when he was playing with Hawks, of the players you mentioned above. I would not go watch AFL if Fyfe and Ablett were playing. They just don't interest me at all with what they do on the field. But that's just me.