Hawthorn’s 2019 Trade/FA - Targets/Incoming players discussion only

[HolyRioli]

Trading first-round picks: Misunderstood rule explained

Marc McGowan cuts through the confusion around a complex rule

m.afl.com.au

“All three clubs drafted two players in the first round in 2015, but the Hawks and Demons haven't used one since and neither has one this year.

They can do as they wish with their first-round pick in the 2019 NAB AFL Trade Period, including offloading a future one, because they have used at least two in the preceding four-year period”

We can trade both our 2019 and 2020 pick.

Right - preceding 4 years being 2015-16-17-18. I assumed it was inclusive of this year, meaning 2015 would've have counted anymore.

If that's the case, I can absolutely see our strategy to be getting hold of two first round picks this year to allow us freedom for the next 4 years

Thanks for that

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[MrPremiership]

3rd rounder for Patton is fair.

We don't have a third rounder this year right?

Round 18 and Cogs still hasn't re-signed

 

[lickmerocks]

Remember....only if Whitfield agrees to a trade shall a discussion take place.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Coniglio for free >>>> Whitfield in a trade.

Having said that I'd love Whitfield.

 

[cryptor]

I’d just wait the 12 months and get Whitfield as a free agent.

 

[Brishawk]

I’d just wait the 12 months and get Whitfield as a free agent.

You want to risk him to gws management?

 

[cryptor]

You want to risk him to gws management?

It’s not in their interests to mismanage him and he’s got this far under their watch. If he’s keen to get to Hawthorn then we either make it happen this year with a reasonable deal (given the circumstances of free agency) or we get him as a free agent next year. Our first and “player X” (who we can only assume is a player we’re not going to want to lose) is too much. Particularly given free agency compo could be scrapped by this time next year. Which would mean we’d hold most of the cards in either case.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Remember....only if Whitfield agrees to a trade shall a discussion take place.

If he wants to come, I suspect we jump on it immediately. No point waiting a year where anything can happen, all sorts of bullshit godfather deals, etc. There's no guarantee he walks to us in a year. Pay what we need to and pull the trigger.

 

[Iceman!]

If a player of Whitfield's ability wants to come you just get the deal done.

 

[arupist]

Sounds more and more like We're not getting Cogs then

Why? Cogs is a FA. Whitfield can be traded for. The only issue is how we fit them into the salary cap. But if we can, getting both is certainly possible.

 

[MrPremiership]

Why? Cogs is a FA. Whitfield can be traded for. The only issue is how we fit them into the salary cap. But if we can, getting both is certainly possible.

Huge off-season to nab Patton, Whitfield and Coniglio from GWS.

 

[hawkheart]

Patton pending?

 

[TylerDurden]

If a player of Whitfield's ability wants to come you just get the deal done.

If he says "I want Hawthorn now", you know Wrighty will get it done.

 

[Bugs1977]

Huge off-season to nab Patton, Whitfield and Coniglio from GWS.

You would be literally ripping the heart of GWS if you could pull off that coup. If it happens I'll eat my hat (if I wore one)

 

[hawk65]

lickmerocks do you know who GWS are keen but can't say or are you theorising?

 

[mustang]

You've nailed it. I think 2 first rounders will be on the table for Whitfield and throw Patton in as steak knives. Aim to get their first back for this year too. A pick slide.
If we land Cogs on top of that. Forget about it.

Don’t we have to use a first this year so if we trade it out and can’t get one back as clubs know we have to.

 

[hawk65]

Or that Cogs is across the line and we're just making sure his housemate is looked after too.

Is Patton his housemate?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Is Patton his housemate?

Yes, I believe so.

 

[hawk65]

Yes, I believe so.

Well that’s going to be cosy when they move in with JOM

 

[Brishawk]

Huge off-season to nab Patton, Whitfield and Coniglio from GWS.

You know that means something else going out or else it will be our Christmas dreams come true

 

[offtherails9]

GWS are happy to give us Patton cheap hoping that we give someone back and pay part of their salary.

 

[wahawk]

You know that means something else going out or else it will be our Christmas dreams come true

I think GWS really need & probably want some leaders who know how to get the group to play as 1 & for each other.
They could do worse than look at a couple of our older players for that

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Don't know why people are so happy only paying a 3rd rounder for Patton, if we offered anymore we'd be deadest crazy, one more ACL and his career is curtains.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

If you want to argue about what trade price will be paid for and for what player, do it in the other thread.