Hawthorn AGM 2023

[Strapping Young Lad]

Don and Jeff are the same, two clowns that would rather carry on in front of cameras and microphones and cause headlines than show any diplomacy regarding the club they supposedly love so much.

Do we expect anything less?

As for Greene, well he’s just playing politics as well and came off looking like a twat.

Luckily the AGM was mostly positive and the 10% of time spent placating old men yelling at clouds was handled mostly well.

 

[crazywildhorse]

I think Don loves Don.

He has explicitly said a number of times that he doesn’t have the same love for the club that he used to.

He says that, but he keeps turning up.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Big Hotdog]

Don’t like it made public yet

Great to be confident about the season, but keep it in-house until you have performed to a high level consistently

Going the full Schwab

On SM-A546E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[MrPremiership]

Don might love the club but he has a funny way of showing it

Would prefer he airs his greivances behind closed doors

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Lol that article and tweet is such clickbait BS.

Says he was stripped of the mic, then the article literally says Gowers heard him out even though the AGM was meant to have already finished

Modern journalism is awesome!!

 

[HedgeFund]

He says that, but he keeps turning up.

If he didn't pop into the odd AGM, and take the lions share of the open mic, he'd just be "Don from down the pub" who used to do a podcast with Sam Newman and otherwise has no status within the community anymore.

As mentioned earlier, it's either all about Don, or at least about him feeling he has some "status".

 

[Yardie]

So nothing really to see here.

 

[Topiary]

So nothing really to see here.

When you do not listen to campaigners like JGK, Greene, and Scott. Greene and Scott had the option to stand at an election and did not.

In fairness the Indigineous matter has taken a great deal of energy. Its solution is very complex but has been achieved in name at least. You can be thankful the Club has a solid balance sheet. It is not a good outcome but could of been a lot worse.
Similarly we avoided draconian AFL sanctions. These could off inflicted far greater pain. AG’s work in this regard cannot be underestimated.

That said, the Club needs to be far more aggressive commercially, through sponsorship and general commercial revenue generation. That is the next and relevant challenge.

 

[A Diakos]

The focus of attention of agm is not don Scott or Russell greene

There where a couple of others that asked the same questions too re 10 mill pledged

The key takes from the agm

1 fixture gate …the board are now fully aware and onto it re prime time games and free to air tv

2 replacing 15 mill revenue and how …announcements over next 12 months

3 dingley project , some info I have that I won’t discuss here

Don’t get fixated on Don Scott we know his style he’s been criticising/outspoken on hawk boards for 40 years … I went over and thanked him for 1996 , regardless of all his “faults” he delivered in that hour of need

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Fixture gate?

You mean bottom 4 club not being handed prime time games. That’s no conspiracy.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

3 dingley project , some info I have that I won’t discuss here

What is even the purpose of writing this multiple times now?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Fixture gate?

You mean bottom 4 club not being handed prime time games. That’s no conspiracy.

People who put 'gate' at the end of any 'scandal' name really know how to contemporise.

And people might want to look at how many Friday night games the Lions got in 2016 when they were planted down the bottom of the ladder compared to how many they get now that they are a perennial contender. It's not a conspiracy that Channel 7 will be opting to not put bottom 4 sides in the biggest drawing sports TV slot.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

What is even the purpose of writing this multiple times now?

In the absence of KL (unless he finally figures out how to use a VPN) there is an opening for resident ITK. A D is making an early play.

 

[eldorado]

People who put 'gate' at the end of any 'scandal' name really know how to contemporise.

I'm very annoyed that all the recent scandal with Twitter/X and free speech and censorship, etc...was not branded Elon-gate.

A golden opportunity for a pun wasted

 

[Charchi]

I watched online as could not go, I have to say I was disappointed at the way they handled the subject of the questions regarding Indigenous Players and former coaches rolling it up into a 5 minute speech, they didn't say anything that was not in the public domain.
We were asked as members to ask questions that would be answered.

It is a great concern that we have spent $1.5M already and looking at a further $1.5M for 2024, our financial strength will soon be eroded and the AFL does not seem interested in topping up our distribution to anything even close to mid range club distributions.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

our financial strength will soon be eroded

Not really, no.

 

[vaughnie]

People who put 'gate' at the end of any 'scandal' name really know how to contemporise.

And people might want to look at how many Friday night games the Lions got in 2016 when they were planted down the bottom of the ladder compared to how many they get now that they are a perennial contender. It's not a conspiracy that Channel 7 will be opting to not put bottom 4 sides in the biggest drawing sports TV slot.

Yeah, but being a bottom 4 side and getting Friday night games doesn't apply to everyone.

The scum finished bottom 4 in 2022 and had 2 home Friday night games in 2023, as well as 8 Saturday night games, 3 of which were home games.

If you are Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon and maybe Richmond, the bottom 4 rules don't apply.

Until we can convince channel 7 that we are one of the big ratings drawcards we will have to put up with needing to be top 4 to get the big primetime fixtures.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

I watched online as could not go, I have to say I was disappointed at the way they handled the subject of the questions regarding Indigenous Players and former coaches rolling it up into a 5 minute speech, they didn't say anything that was not in the public domain.
We were asked as members to ask questions that would be answered.

It is a great concern that we have spent $1.5M already and looking at a further $1.5M for 2024, our financial strength will soon be eroded and the AFL does not seem interested in topping up our distribution to anything even close to mid range club distributions.

Wrong

So Very Wrong

 

[extractasam]

Fixture gate?

You mean bottom 4 club not being handed prime time games. That’s no conspiracy.

I mean i get this argument and this probably isn’t for the AGM thread but given it was brought up ill make this point.

Even while we were contending I recall watching so many dead rubbers, specifically featuring teams like Carlton and Stkilda when they were barely out of the bottom 4 (I just looked it up and Carlton lost 4 Friday night games in 2015 by 60+ points before round 10)

I dont think anyone here is asking for multiple prime time games but 1 a year is a pretty fair ask when you consider we have maybe 4 or so games you could qualify for it - the Collingwood game being #1.

 

[Kanga Commando]

Don might love the club but he has a funny way of showing it

Would prefer he airs his greivances behind closed doors

Which closed doors are they ?

He is a professional agitator so no one is letting him come through any doors.

Let him speak, for better or worse.

I'm not afraid to have anyone speak at an AGM. Thats the whole purpose.

 

[MrPremiership]

Which closed doors are they ?

He is a professional agitator so no one is letting him come through any doors.

Let him speak, for better or worse.

I'm not afraid to have anyone speak at an AGM. Thats the whole purpose.

Just pick up the phone to Gowers and say what you want to say

Doing it at the AGM is for Don.

 

[A Diakos]

Fixture gate it is

And the board is aware of it

research and better still attend the agm to understand in full context (responses above indicate not a full understanding) exactly what we are talking about …thankfully the board is aware of it and will seek to prioritise it and well done to Gowers for this …unlike Kennett he and his board acknowledged and heard and are onto it

 

[wahawk]

I watched online as could not go, I have to say I was disappointed at the way they handled the subject of the questions regarding Indigenous Players and former coaches rolling it up into a 5 minute speech, they didn't say anything that was not in the public domain.
We were asked as members to ask questions that would be answered.

It is a great concern that we have spent $1.5M already and looking at a further $1.5M for 2024, our financial strength will soon be eroded and the AFL does not seem interested in topping up our distribution to anything even close to mid range club distributions.

I ain’t no lawyer but my advice to the club would be “the less said about the racism scandal, the better”

It’s a legal matter at this stage & no one from the club should be discussing it in the public domain

There’s questions that can be answered & there’s questions that can’t at this stage

 

[wahawk]

Which closed doors are they ?

He is a professional agitator so no one is letting him come through any doors.

Let him speak, for better or worse.

I'm not afraid to have anyone speak at an AGM. Thats the whole purpose.

There’s sometimes when people should not speak.

Greene, I admired him as a player & person (he lived opposite my grandma & used to come out & kick the footy with my brother & I, even though we were young kids & he was a VFL player)

But did he need to ask the question he did ?
I don’t think so.

Scott, has done so much good for HFC, but seems to be doing more harm than good nowadays

Jeffry obviously wasn’t there otherwise his name would be in the papers for the same silly reasons.

Why do people think being controversial is a good thing ?
Is it an attention grabbing thing ?
Is it a sense of feeling relevant ?
Why ? I don’t get it.