Hawthorn completely short-changed by the AFL

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You seem to be implying I'm responsible for Fremantle's trades. :D

Your comparison is laughable. Clown...
If you are so sensitive it might be best not telling us what Adelaide should/should not have done a year ago with Tippett. Unless of course you are in the inner sanctum at Adekaide and know what they tried to do last trade period. If you did, you wouldn't be posting such authoritative ill informed rubbish
 

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Reckon you've missed my point.

Anyway, I'd be filthy if I was moaning about silly compensation picks. Scrap them please, Vlad. Ridiculous concept to begin with...

Clearly you're a fan of US sports and are familiar with how free agency works over there. I'm not, and I'm sure a lot of other AFL fans aren't either. The concept of a team losing a top 3 player like Goddard and receiving significant unders in return is foreign to me. The thought of that team receiving absolutely nothing is even worse.

I'm sure I will get my head around it, but I'm not looking forward to the day when Geelong loses a valuable player - like Goddard, Pearce, Rivers or Young - and receives little in return. Port and Essendon already showed that the system can be manipulated in a way - trading Monfries instead of letting him leave as a FA - and in time other clubs will learn how to use the system to their advantage. But until then...
 
Pick 66 for both Young and Murphy?

Young is just as if not more valuable than Pearce, Chaplin or Moloney

WCE got a bit shortchanged as well with Q-Stick but he is almost 30 from memory so thats not as bad

Young is 26. Premiership player, Walk up start to a club in premiership contention and is worth almost 400k a year according to Collingwood

Murphy could have and probably should have tbh played in a Grand Final or 2 but is a depth player.However we should have got something for him (probably pick 66 tbh)

Absolutely livid by this for some reason

Hawk fans have Young's contract way out of kilter.

The reason Young's compensation was a 3rd round was due to the contract he signed being small.

Pearce was offered a much more lucrative contract and hence Port receives greater compensation.

Young ain't on 400K...more like 275K
 
Hawk fans have Young's contract way out of kilter.

The reason Young's compensation was a 3rd round was due to the contract he signed being small.

Pearce was offered a much more lucrative contract and hence Port receives greater compensation.

Young ain't on 400K...more like 275K

So in actual fact you dont know.....you are just makin shite up to suit your arguement.
 

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Hawk fans have Young's contract way out of kilter.

The reason Young's compensation was a 3rd round was due to the contract he signed being small.

Pearce was offered a much more lucrative contract and hence Port receives greater compensation.

Young ain't on 400K...more like 275K

As if it is some straight forward formula based on remuneration.
 
Clearly you're a fan of US sports and are familiar with how free agency works over there. I'm not, and I'm sure a lot of other AFL fans aren't either. The concept of a team losing a top 3 player like Goddard and receiving significant unders in return is foreign to me. The thought of that team receiving absolutely nothing is even worse.

I'm sure I will get my head around it, but I'm not looking forward to the day when Geelong loses a valuable player - like Goddard, Pearce, Rivers or Young - and receives little in return. Port and Essendon already showed that the system can be manipulated in a way - trading Monfries instead of letting him leave as a FA - and in time other clubs will learn how to use the system to their advantage. But until then...

Not sure why a club should be compensated for not doing their job...

The system needs a massive overhaul. "Trade Week" is just plain stupid. Have a trade deadline set at Round 14 or 15. If a club gets rumblings that they may find it difficult to re-sign a star player for the following season they can start dealing that player off to the highest bidder/best offer. If a club loses two or three of their forwards through injury early in the season why shouldn't that club be able to trade for a forward from another club who is languishing in the magoos?

Having the player choose the club they want to be traded to is ridiculous and results in Luke Ball and "Dodgy Noggin" Tippett scenarios where the team that player is to be delivered to replies with silly offers for that player.
 
hurrah......you finally caught up.........yep, nearly half hour behind. bout right
Aren't you in Adelaide also and therefore 30 mins behind with me? For what it is worth I reckon you got way unders for Young. Strange thing this compensation in FA. Pearce and Young about the same standard footballer for mine, compensation is not
 
Not sure why a club should be compensated for not doing their job...

The system needs a massive overhaul. "Trade Week" is just plain stupid. Have a trade deadline set at Round 14 or 15. If a club gets rumblings that they may find it difficult to re-sign a star player for the following season they can start dealing that player off to the highest bidder/best offer. If a club loses two or three of their forwards through injury early in the season why shouldn't that club be able to trade for a forward from another club who is languishing in the magoos?

Having the player choose the club they want to be traded to is ridiculous and results in Luke Ball and "Dodgy Noggin" Tippett scenarios where the team that player is to be delivered to replies with silly offers for that player.

i was going to just like this post for it's thoughts on the trade period extending throughout the season, but that wouldnt have given the necessary props to the name "Dodgy Noggin".

So.... i "Like" that bit especially
 
Some interesting logic employed by the AFL here:

1. Tying compensation to contract size - yes, it's a market value, but if your club loses a player, you better hope they're completely mercenary and go to the bottom club that's offering the most money because they're the ones with room in their salary cap. Because if said player sacrifices dollars to go to a top club to chase success, your compo will suffer.

2. Tying picks to ladder position - make the picks end of round or mid round; why should the value of the compo bear any relation to where the club happened to finish that year?

Like others, I question whether there should be any compo though; and if there is, surely it should come at the expense of the clubs who benefitted from FA (such as my club this year) rather than everyone?
 
It's about contract size more than anything, so complaining about x being better than y is just pointless.
It's pretty much only about that. Combined with their age. Zero consideration went into how good a player is. That's been judged by the contract.
 

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