News Hawthorn player questioned over sexual assault allegation - No Names, etc; UPDATED: cleared (9/5/16)

[S Lawrence]

Chin up guys.

You're a terrific football club and however this plays out this is in no way a reflection on your club as a whole and shouldn't detract one little bit on what your side has achieved, so keep on celebrating your 3peat.

Thanks for your comments Royal Flash, actually made me feel a bit better.

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

A bit of perspective, 85% of rape allegations in Victoria aren't charged and 1 in 6 that are charged are found guilty... For every true and correct allegation there's tons more that are blantant lies.


http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/644152/StudyofReportedRapes.pdf

Just because they aren't found guilty, doesn't mean they are lies.

It's a heavy burden to prove rape, especially when there is generally little evidence.

 

[HawkMongrel]

I think it's mandatory for taxis to be fitted with cameras these days, so this should be sorted out quickly. It will either show her going along with it, or resisting, which should put all the speculation to bed.

I said the same thing to a friend a moment ago.

 

[Big A]

There won't be a guilty legal outcome before the final list lodgement date. So until then, he'll be treated innocent until convicted.

I agree but scrambling to think of way we minimise harm to our list. Sorry selfish i know but the footy show must go on

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[Lethality]

So that makes us and North Melbourne under investigation currently. Collingwood a few years ago, Essendon/St.Kilda a few years ago (Andrew Lovett) St.Kilda in 2004, Hawthorn again in 2004.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I was pretty much referring to the way some footballers will still do whatever they can to get their dicks wet and don't stop to consider the consequences of their actions, irrespective of how many other footballers have landed into this trouble. My comment is a sweeping comment as I have no knowledge of the facts in this case.

True, but have any of them been found guilty?

 

[Breustiful]

A bit of perspective, 85% of rape allegations in Victoria aren't charged and 1 in 6 that are charged are found guilty... For every true and correct allegation there's tons more that are blantant lies.


http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/644152/StudyofReportedRapes.pdf

Still won't stop the torrent of abuse the player will cop from the sidelines.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

True, but have any of them been found guilty?

Does it matter? They will always be guilty in the eyes of footy supporters.

 

[beta_condition]

Just because they aren't found guilty, doesn't mean they are lies.

It's a heavy burden to prove rape, especially when there is generally little evidence.

Just because theyre found guilty doesn't mean they did it

 

[Badesumofu]

Guys, lets not do this.


We don't know many facts. We don't need speculation or attempts at piecing it together.

So much this. There is no way that we can come to any kind of meaningful conclusions based on what is out there at the moment. No good will come of it. We can only hope that somehow... I don't even know. Can't see any way this isn't awful somehow.

 

[jakethebear]

Just because they aren't found guilty, doesn't mean they are lies.

It's a heavy burden to prove rape, especially when there is generally little evidence.

Definitely true. The fact that the victim allegedly reported straight away (within 24 hours) will probably mean it will be easier to find proof either way- ie there will be more proof that either 'it did happen' or 'it didn't happen'.

 

[Lethality]

The jokes being made even by women even on Facebook are surprising.

 

[Xtreme]

Darrk day for Hawthorn

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Definitely true. The fact that the victim allegedly reported straight away (within 24 hours) will probably mean it will be easier to find proof either way- ie there will be more proof that either 'it did happen' or 'it didn't happen'.

Given it happened in a taxi, you'd think the driver should be able to give a pretty good insight into what happened.

Hopefully there is a smoking gun either way.... these kind of cases can be horrible when it's he said/she said.

 

[Hawthorn United]

That one poster can no longer post here.

Can we let him go as a Free Agent like the player he chose to name himself after?

 

[Tiger71]

Premiership star sounds foreboding. Anyway, with no detail to go with, just wanted to say to the hawk supporters chin up till the facts are known.

 

[Badesumofu]

A bit of perspective, 85% of rape allegations in Victoria aren't charged and 1 in 6 that are charged are found guilty... For every true and correct allegation there's tons more that are blantant lies.


http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/644152/StudyofReportedRapes.pdf

Wow. Just wow. From the report you cited only 2.1% of allegations were designated as false. Way to misunderstand the problem. I was going to frame this post very differently but I don't see any kind of fruitful discussion arising here, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[mikeder]

Very strange circumstances. How does it take place in the back of a taxi, then how does the alleged victim stay with the alleged offender after this has taken place? Aren't taxis fitted with cameras these days? Hope this investigation doesn't drag out.

My thoughts exactly "PNess"

 

[Gralin]

The jokes being made even by women even on Facebook are surprising.

The jokes made by "female" profiles you mean, no guarantee they are real people or what gender is behind the keyboard.

 

[RelaxMax]

The jokes being made even by women even on Facebook are surprising.

It's all fun and games until it's not

 

[La Vache]

Give that scandals and rumours thread a very wide birth. A bigger bunch of dumb battlers you will never come across.

 

[threesixpio]

Sheesh. Hard to post on this. But shitty shitty news. Just when you think your club would never be hit by this kind of thing....

 

[Kil Phearns]

 

[smeltitdeltit]

Just because they aren't found guilty, doesn't mean they are lies.

It's a heavy burden to prove rape, especially when there is generally little evidence.

True, but so is the opposite, although there would be a lot more acquittals of guilty people than convictions of innocents.

 

[RelaxMax]

Give that scandals and rumours thread a very wide birth. A bigger bunch of dumb battlers you will never come across.

I started reading it

I stopped soon after

Agenda Brats are a seedy sort at the best of times, let alone the worst