Scandal Hawthorn player questioned over sexual offence allegation

[hird+lloyd=legends]

Hard to believe the Hawks didn't know a second player was being investigated early on. If the media knew then so did the Hawks.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

The press were making it up and got lucky that it turned out to be true? While Hawthorn told the truth but were unlucky that it turned out to be false? OK...

I will explain it for you. The press got wind that there was a police investigation involving two Hawthorn players, they ran with a report saying this without knowing the full story at the time. Hawthorn were told that there was a police investigation into one player and another player was assisting with the investigation and issued a statement accordingly. Does that help?

 

[Mick39]

Caroline Wilson named John McCarthy & Dayne Beams immediately after the GF the last time this occurred.

 

[threesixpio]

Not guilty

To rape. What about to indecent assault?

 

[hairy biker]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/second-hawk-under-police-investigation

However, on Sunday in a brief statement the Hawks said Victoria Police had made the club aware that the second player was also under investigation.

I find it unusual that the Police are communicating with the employer of individuals under investigation for sexual assault.
Unless the employer can provide information relevant to the investigation then the police should have no contact with them.

IMO they certainly should not be providing information to the club relating to the investigation or the players allegedly involved.
Any protocol that potentially breaches confidentiality (with relation to the players under investigation) is surely inappropriate.
If the players wish to advise the club so be be it.

 

[threesixpio]

There was a rumour the St Kilda board got to look at Milney's brief before it was authorized. Not sure if true. Hope it's not

 

[master bate]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-18/second-hawk-under-police-investigation


I find it unusual that the Police are communicating with the employer of individuals under investigation for sexual assault.
Unless the employer can provide information relevant to the investigation then the police should have no contact with them.

IMO they certainly should not be providing information to the club relating to the investigation or the players allegedly involved.
Any protocol that potentially breaches confidentiality (with relation to the players under investigation) is surely inappropriate.
If the players wish to advise the club so be be it.

I would hope what has happened is the players involved have notified the club and the police have then giving an update to the club as a way of helping everyone manage the public fallout (which is almost inevitable). Without interfering in the investigation I think it's in everyone's benefit including the alleged victim to have a plan in place that minimises the publicity.

It would be silly if Hawthorn inadvertently traded one of the alleged perpetrators or featured them in a marketing campaign etc.

 

[Mahlepi]

Players deserve privacy
But for hawk supporters to take high moral ground given their attacks on st kilda is a joke

 

[threesixpio]

Players deserve privacy
But for hawk supporters to take high moral ground given their attacks on st kilda is a joke

?

 

[Spuddd]

7 News Melbourne reporting that one player is a premiership player

 

[GWBogan]

So you think the Hawks have the Victorian police department in their pocket

Their rug obviously wasn't big enough for it to be swept under.

 

[RUNVS]

7 News Melbourne reporting that one player is a premiership player

2015 premiership player?

 

[LongoDongo]

..who are the 2??

 

[Satan]

There was a rumour the St Kilda board got to look at Milney's brief before it was authorized. Not sure if true. Hope it's not

One of the trainers was a local

 

[threesixpio]

One of the trainers was a local

Local copper. Yeah heard that

 

[Satan]

Local copper. Yeah heard that

Lots unsual stuff in that investigation

 

[Cylon7]

I would hope what has happened is the players involved have notified the club and the police have then giving an update to the club as a way of helping everyone manage the public fallout (which is almost inevitable). Without interfering in the investigation I think it's in everyone's benefit including the alleged victim to have a plan in place that minimises the publicity.

It would be silly if Hawthorn inadvertently traded one of the alleged perpetrators or featured them in a marketing campaign etc.

If the perpetrator(s) is found guilty, why is there a need for minimising publicity? There is too much gagging of media for football matters already.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

If the perpetrator(s) is found guilty, why is there a need for minimising publicity? There is too much gagging of media for football matters already.

Clearly they were talking about minimising the publicity during the investigation.

 

[DERO]

The names can come out if there is any veracity in the claim. This is in fairness to everyone.

 

[replicant]

So do we know who Homer S is yet?

Don't use first names, they're too easy to guess. Try H Simpson.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

You mean like Majak??

No different. Feel for Majak having his name out there. Unfortunately when you are charged it will come out.
At this stage, no charges laid.

 

[MacMum]

No different. Feel for Majak having his name out there. Unfortunately when you are charged it will come out.
At this stage, no charges laid.

Majak was named before he was charged..........which is the point of my post many pages ago.

 

[Wil79]

Players deserve privacy
But for hawk supporters to take high moral ground given their attacks on st kilda is a joke

Wow I don't remember doing that, but if you say so...

One for all and all for one. We probably all vote for the same political party too?

I am having fish curry for dinner btw, I assume all other Hawks supporters are too.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

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IMO they certainly should not be providing information to the club relating to the investigation or the players allegedly involved.
Any protocol that potentially breaches confidentiality (with relation to the players under investigation) is surely inappropriate.
If the players wish to advise the club so be be it.

I'm out of my depth on legal issues but does making the players names public before (and if) they are charged in any compromise a trial? I always thought it was strange with the Bill Cosby stuff that women were coming out left, right and centre to accuse him before he was actually charged. I would think a savvy lawyer would use the adverse publicity to point out that it was nigh on impossible to get a fair trial with a trial basically being conducted by the media.

So it's not only for defamation why the player's identities should be kept confidential but to ensure that a fair trial can be conducted. Or am I way off the mark here?

 

[Rusty Brookes]

Majak was named before he was charged..........which is the point of my post many pages ago.

I totally agree that Majak's name should not have been mentioned (or the Collingwood guys or anyone) before a charge was laid. Too wrongs don't make a right though.