Hawthorn to play finals in 2024?

[Judd2Sewell]

I'm a little bit confused which thread will be the "go to" this year for all the trolls and hard-headed Hawf masochists
We currently have 3 threads getting continually bumped on the Main Board.

• Hawthorn to play finals in 2024?
• Who will be better in 2024? Hawthorn or Essendon?
• Hawthorn rebuild: are they tanking?

It seems a little excessive. The content is basically the same in all three.
Maybe the mods could merge them all into one giant HAWFORN MEGATHREAD

Good idea. It can become an echo chamber for the same few Hawthorn and non-Hawthorn posters to throw their handbags in.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

chadwiko​

Vs

Strapping Young Lad

www.bigfooty.com

Fight

 

[J Albert]

They'll rise for sure. Not top 8 though, just given the number of good teams this season.

 

[Jables]

We are talented rather than good. Will be the same as the past few years, get some surprise wins against some good teams. I'd rather not make finals if it means we aren't trying to be a contender in the long run, the finals treadmill of mediocrity isn't that fun, I grew up with that.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

There's a lot of Hawthorn jealous in here. I think many still haven't recovered from that 3-peat in the 2010's.

 

[MadMaxx]

There's a lot of Hawthorn jealous in here. I think many still haven't recovered from that 3-peat in the 2010's.

We also only have 5 more years to get that 2020's Flag, and keep our flag-per-decade streak going out to 70 years.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

No injury to any of Lewis, Chol, Sicily, Reeves, and keeping at least 3 of Nash/Day/Worpel/Newcombe on the field and we are good enough.

Badly lack depth at KPP, and our outside run is lacking. Our best-22 is ok though.

 

[Freomaniac]

Hawthorn will finish above Carlton in 2024. Take it to the bank!

connor nash isnt a legit bad a**.

Kevin Nash on the other hand.... well. you tell me lol

 

[Xtreme]

connor nash isnt a legit bad a**.

Kevin Nash on the other hand.... well. you tell me lol

Kevin Nash would win the Brownlow....

If he didn't, he'd powerbomb every umpire!

 

[Freomaniac]

I was wrong. It was August 2023, not September. But here is an example of me saying what I've been saying all along SSSSSS ;

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this is a very interesting assessment.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Kevin Nash would win the Brownlow....

If he didn't, he'd powerbomb every umpire!

Would be more injury prone than Scott Gumbleton.


Last off-season, head of football Rob McCartney said we'd take some time to find out feet but would improve in the second half of the season. That's exactly what happened.

On a recent podcast he said this season the biggest aim is to be in games for far longer, at least giving ourselves the chance of more victories.

That's enough for me. If we can win 8 games and improve the percentage to around 90 then we're clearly on the right track.

 

[Chadwiko]

this is a very interesting assessment.

I've put it out there and I stand by it. Maybe I'll be right, maybe I'll be wrong. Not really concerned with that aspect.

But I am confident in saying Hawthorn do not have the foundation of a premiership contending side currently on their list.

 

[Head Selector]

Not sure about this but GWS will win 2 flags in the next 5 years .

 

[smish]

I've put it out there and I stand by it. Maybe I'll be right, maybe I'll be wrong. Not really concerned with that aspect.

But I am confident in saying Hawthorn do not have the foundation of a premiership contending side currently on their list.

Can we have a wager Chad

Your account v my account, depending who finishes higher between Hawks and North this year

 

[Chadwiko]

Can we have a wager Chad

Your account v my account, depending who finishes higher between Hawks and North this year

No. My account is worth more than yours. 2021? Ew.

Also... I've essentially already got real money riding that very scenario at Sportsbet. I've posted about it in this thread but a mod keeps deleting it saying we can't talk about gambling here.

But Hawks under 8.5 into North over 5.5 for a nice tidy little pay day should it eventuate.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

this is a very interesting assessment.

You’re being polite.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Well done recruiters. Thanks for ****ing up another top 10 pick, and still keeping your jobs…….

 

[Jeremias]

Well done recruiters. Thanks for ******* up another top 10 pick, and still keeping your jobs…….

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Not happy with Watson?

 

[Red Bull]

Well done recruiters. Thanks for ******* up another top 10 pick, and still keeping your jobs…….

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Gotta give the little fella a go.
Would be more worried about DGB and Ward at this stage …

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Well done recruiters. Thanks for ******* up another top 10 pick, and still keeping your jobs…….

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Gone to Tassie in 3 years

Get a clue

 

[SSSSSS]

No. My account is worth more than yours. 2021? Ew.

Also... I've essentially already got real money riding that very scenario at Sportsbet. I've posted about it in this thread but a mod keeps deleting it saying we can't talk about gambling here.

But Hawks under 8.5 into North over 5.5 for a nice tidy little pay day should it eventuate.

But that bet doesn't cover that scenario at all?

North could finish on 6 wins and Hawks could finish on 8 and you'd come out a winner. You'd still lose out on the bet against Smish.

If you had conviction you would stake it.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Gotta give the little fella a go.
Would be more worried about DGB and Ward at this stage …

I'm convinced you've just replied to yourself.

 

[Chadwiko]

North could finish on 6 wins and Hawks could finish on 8...

Could, but most likely won't. If you believe Hawthorn are a bottom 4 team, as I do, then their schedule for 2024 is actually really nasty. Not a lot of likely wins on the fixture in my humble opinion. In fact, I'll demonstrate...

Below is how I project the season for both teams. I assume you'll disagree and that's fine. Regardless, a few notes for my projections;

• Even though I have NMFC as better than Hawthorn, I have us splitting the games. But obviously if North sweeps Hawthorn, or vice versa, that's a big swing in W/L totals for both teams.
• This only projects what I personally consider to be likely wins, and doesn't account for upsets (such as NMFC or Hawthorn beating teams when they play them in Tassie, etc)
• I'm not claiming this as a scientific process that will eventuate. Just explaining my subjective opinion of where both teams are at in the course of their rebuilds etc.

WIN/LOSS projections - projected wins in bold

NMFC:
at GWS
vs FRE
vs CAR
vs BRIS (SA)
at GEE
vs HAW
vs ADL (TAS)
at STK
at GCS (NT)
at ESS
vs PA (TAS)
at WCE
vs COLL
at MEL
vs WBD
vs GCS
at SYD
at CAR
vs GEE (TAS)
vs RICH
vs WCE
at WBD
at HAW (TAS)


HAWTHORN:
at ESS
vs MEL
vs GEE
at COLL (SA)
at GCS
at NMFC
vs SYD
at WBD
vs STK (TAS)
at PA
vs BRIS
vs ADL
vs GWS (TAS)
at RICH
at WCE
at GEE
vs FRE (TAS)
vs COLL
at ADL
at GWS
at CAR
vs RICH
vs NMFC (TAS)

 

[Freomaniac]

Not sure about this but GWS will win 2 flags in the next 5 years .

I can see the crows or west coast getting one in the next 4 years or by the end of 2029.

There will be a season from 2024-29 where 2 non Vic sides make a grand final

 

[SSSSSS]

Could, but most likely won't. If you believe Hawthorn are a bottom 4 team, as I do, then their schedule for 2024 is actually really nasty. Not a lot of likely wins on the fixture in my humble opinion. In fact, I'll demonstrate...

Below is how I project the season for both teams. I assume you'll disagree and that's fine. Regardless, a few notes for my projections;

• Even though I have NMFC as better than Hawthorn, I have us splitting the games. But obviously if North sweeps Hawthorn, or vice versa, that's a big swing in W/L totals for both teams.
• This only projects what I personally consider to be likely wins, and doesn't account for upsets (such as NMFC or Hawthorn beating teams when they play them in Tassie, etc)
• I'm not claiming this as a scientific process that will eventuate. Just explaining my subjective opinion of where both teams are at in the course of their rebuilds etc.

WIN/LOSS projections - projected wins in bold

NMFC:
at GWS
vs FRE
vs CAR
vs BRIS (SA)
at GEE
vs HAW
vs ADL (TAS)
at STK
at GCS (NT)
at ESS
vs PA (TAS)
at WCE
vs COLL
at MEL
vs WBD
vs GCS
at SYD
at CAR
vs GEE (TAS)
vs RICH
vs WCE
at WBD
at HAW (TAS)


HAWTHORN:
at ESS
vs MEL
vs GEE
at COLL (SA)
at GCS
at NMFC
vs SYD
at WBD
vs STK (TAS)
at PA
vs BRIS
vs ADL
vs GWS (TAS)
at RICH
at WCE
at GEE
vs FRE (TAS)
vs COLL
at ADL
at GWS
at CAR
vs RICH
vs NMFC (TAS)

Didn't they run an analysis on fixture difficulty and for some reason as a bottom 4 team we received the 5th or 6th (thought it was 3rd) hardest fixture in the comp (GC with the easiest and North 2nd easiest). Go figure.

I really can't see North winning anywhere close to 8 games. 2 would be a disaster. I think 4 would be par. 6 would be a good result.

8 would have Clarko up there as coach of the season.