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2 players in that team are worthy of the title "outstanding".
At least 10 of them will not play 100 games.
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2 players in that team are worthy of the title "outstanding".
At least 10 of them will not play 100 games.
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Disagree. But that's not the point. I'd say for their age, there are a few more than that.
The point is, it's an outstanding team of young talent.
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It's funny listening to this Hodge vs Judd argument.
Best individual player goes to Chris Judd with; 1x Brownlow, 1x AFL MVP, 1x Norm Smith medal, 3x All Australian (captain 2008).
Little Luke has a normy and a pair of AA's.
Because Hodge clearly isn't the beter player, you hawks supporters seem to deal the 'premierships mean everything to a player and are a measure on how good they are" card. I'm afraid Chris Judd wins again.
2x Grand Final appearances including a premiership trumps Little Luke's 1 premiership. This season was the first time Judd hasn't played finals footy.
Chris Judd > Luke Hodge
Best individual player goes to Chris Judd with; 1x Brownlow, 1x AFL MVP, 1x Norm Smith medal, 3x All Australian (captain 2008).
Little Luke has a normy and a pair of AA's.
Because Hodge clearly isn't the beter player, you hawks supporters seem to deal the 'premierships mean everything to a player and are a measure on how good they are" card. I'm afraid Chris Judd wins again.
2x Grand Final appearances including a premiership trumps Little Luke's 1 premiership. This season was the first time Judd hasn't played finals footy.
Chris Judd > Luke Hodge
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Hodge has brought himself up to elite level in the last two years.
We will have to wait if Judd gets his pace back.
With his explosive pace, he was clearly the best. Without it, he is back to the field
Judd > Hodge first 5 years (but gap was closing by 2006)
Hodge> Judd last 2 years
Overall I'm happy to call them equal, and, importantly, jaundiced Big Footy trolls aside, most experts are too.
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It's funny listening to this Hodge vs Judd argument.
Best individual player goes to Chris Judd with; 1x Brownlow, 1x AFL MVP, 1x Norm Smith medal, 3x All Australian (captain 2008).
Little Luke has a normy and a pair of AA's.
Because Hodge clearly isn't the beter player, you hawks supporters seem to deal the 'premierships mean everything to a player and are a measure on how good they are" card. I'm afraid Chris Judd wins again.
2x Grand Final appearances including a premiership trumps Little Luke's 1 premiership. This season was the first time Judd hasn't played finals footy.
Chris Judd > Luke Hodge
There is no comparison to be made.
Judd is the best midfielder of the decade.
Hodge isn't even a midfielder any more.
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Great summary eldorado.
I think what some of the trolls neglect too is the value of onfield leadership. Judd showed when he took over the leadership at West Coke that he was unable to command the respect of the players who obviously saw him as a great player, but nothing like the leader they were looking for. He was unable to curb the off field stuff and Cuz, Chickie, Fletcher, etc were still left to run the show. I've seen no signs of anything changing in his time at Carlton either. Hopefully yhr Blues realise this soon and give it to Murphy or one of the other young players.
On the other hand, Hodge is probably the outstanding onfield leader in the competition at the moment. He directs play, assists others with their decision-making and makes others walk taller.
That and his dramatic rise to be one of the top 5 players in the comp, means at this present time:
Hodge >>>> Judd
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C-L-A, that was the funniest thing I have ever read.
Judd 2002-2006 > Hodge 2002-2006
Hodge 2007-2008 > Judd 2007-2008
there is no disputing that, and not one hawk has said differently.
over their whole career's to date, judd has more honours, which is a result of where he was playing at the time.
the past two years the fall of west coast has seen the fall of Judd, who still has the honors to give him recognition.
by the end of their careers, they will be even, and the debate will be simmilar to the Lockett vs Dunstall vs Ablett of 10 years ago.
Hodge 2007-2008 > Judd 2007-2008
there is no disputing that, and not one hawk has said differently.
over their whole career's to date, judd has more honours, which is a result of where he was playing at the time.
the past two years the fall of west coast has seen the fall of Judd, who still has the honors to give him recognition.
by the end of their careers, they will be even, and the debate will be simmilar to the Lockett vs Dunstall vs Ablett of 10 years ago.
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Judd 2007 (on one leg)> Hodge 2007
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Judd is quicker, more athletic, is strong and has great disposal < 40 metres. Hodge is more of a footballers footballer, smart, tough, skillful one of the best kicks and handballers going around. Hodge is the general he directs players around him.
Both are hard to find but I just love footballers in the Hodge mould would not change the 2001 draft one bit. Having said this if Hawks did not get Hodge but got Judd would not complain either.
Hodge can play anywhere its just that for the TEAM he has to play in certain positions. Does Judd have the same versatility, ie. can he hold down KP forwards and then be switched into the middle to the same effect?
In terms of the 35kg Ellis will be Hawks next Captain after Mitch.
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Versatility? Hodge doesn't play midfield all the time because he can't shake a good tagger.
That isn't a troll either, it's a stone cold fact.
From a structural perspective Hodge was needed down back this year as Hawks have many solid mids its all about structure something North fans do not understand because they do not have the players to do this type of thing.
Rawlings has done well on Hodge a couple of times but let me tell you Hodge has been tagged plenty of times and still has big influences on games. Give him anywhere near 20 possessions he will damage. Gets 30 possessions will be best on ground.
Buy the sounds of it you would not wan't a player like Hodge at North thats fine keep barracking.
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That is ridiculous, I'd love Hodge at North.
Why would you want a player who can't shake off tags?
I think I can understand where you are coming from. When talking pure midfielder Judd is better but it does not mean he is a better player as Hodge has other tricks which evens things up.
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Hodge doesn't have any tricks that surpass dominating centre clearances and driving your team in to attack. Zoning off across half back is a much easier task.
a) Judd is a better footballer than Hodge.
b) This does not imply that every player inferior to Judd is an average or poor footballer.
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a) judd does not back into packs of four or five to spoil
that is balls right there
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What happened to my thread?
Every year they have been in the game, Judd has been better than Hodge. Last year, this year, and again next year.
Judd > Hodge - The End.
Every year they have been in the game, Judd has been better than Hodge. Last year, this year, and again next year.
Judd > Hodge - The End.
Mate, it's more than ok that you have that opinion. But nothing you could say would make me swap Judd for Hodge over the last two years. That to me indicates in my opinion that Hodge is a more valuable player in my eyes. Hodge plays extremely effectively across Half Back, as does Judd in the midfield. But if you think that's it, then i'd ask you to have a look at the games where Hodge has played through the midfield or up forward. He is dangerous everywhere.
Stop trying so hard with the Hodge/Judd thing. You don't even have the luxury of either in your own team. Our bloke just won the Norm Smith medal against the so called best team ever...so your argument is diminishing by the minute.
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Err...ok. That to me indicates you are a Hwathorn supporter.
I think this is the first post I have ever made on the subject. And by the way, Ablett is better than both of them
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It's a tough one, certainly Judd started out the better player, while Hodge had some OP issues. Judd is faster, Hodge more versatile.
In the end though, Hodge has been the better player in finals, while Judd has just been another midfielder.
It's a close call, but Hodge was the Norm Smith Medallist in his premiership side, whereas Judd was just another player in his side's flag. Hodge wins.
In the end though, Hodge has been the better player in finals, while Judd has just been another midfielder.
It's a close call, but Hodge was the Norm Smith Medallist in his premiership side, whereas Judd was just another player in his side's flag. Hodge wins.
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So? Max Rooke is harder than both of them, does that make him better than them?
Judd is a one trick pony.... as is Rooke
Judds trick is a shitload better than Max's trick
Hodge is a very versitile footballer exceptional at many faecets of the game.
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