Heppell suing Essendon

[Donakebab]

So how many of the 34 have Essendon retained?

Thankfully nowhere near that number.

 

[caboose]

So how many of the 34 have Essendon retained?

What the hell are you even on about?

How many of any club's list of 2012 have they "retained"? How many of Adelaide's players of that season are still on their list now?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

How can you both bitch about "losing 1st and second rd picks for 2 years" and that you were then given a PP in 2014 ..... Seriously lettuce leaf punishment. And yes the team that finishes last generally = team with the worst list in the league. The fact that efc (and efc supporting media) believe that the club will be playing finals next year demonstrates oh bullshit the situation is.

Your tears taste like milkshakes

 

[coryne]

Your tears taste like milkshakes

Peptide flavored milkshakes im sure ......

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

What the hell are you even on about?

How many of any club's list of 2012 have they "retained"? How many of Adelaide's players of that season are still on their list now?

But aren't Essendon beating their chests about player retention?

Just seems a bit weird to be bragging about player retention when 70% of the players in question are no longer at the club.

 

[mxett]

So how many of the 34 have Essendon retained?

How is it relevant?

 

[mxett]

But aren't Essendon beating their chests about player retention?

Just seems a bit weird to be bragging about player retention when 70% of the players in question are no longer at the club.

are you seriously THAT stupid?

 

[Donakebab]

are you seriously THAT stupid?

 

[Laphroaig]

Haha what?!

You just made that up sorry mate but the number one pick is meant to go to the club that finishes last in any given year. It's always been that way. There has never, ever been some kind of subjective determination as to who has the worst list built in! hahaha c'mon man

As for "**** all punishment" give us a spell. We lost two years of first and second round draft picks! The best look at talent we got given in 2013 and 2014 was pick 19. The fact you consider that "**** all" punishment says it all really. Not to mention being booted from a finals series, jesus

You forgot the back door clauses. The mysterious trade loopholes.

Don't know what Little and Evans had on AFL House, but it must have been **** ing good shit.

How about EFC gets top up players but nobody else does? Really good shit.

 

[Laphroaig]

LOL

how dirty do you feel posting that given your team tanked for draft picks?

How dirty do you feel that your coach, Chair and Board conspired to be drug cheats?

 

[mxett]

How dirty do you feel that your coach, Chair and Board conspired to be drug cheats?

given thats BS, not at all

 

[Laphroaig]

given thats BS, not at all

Sure. It was all just a ghastly accident. Nobody did anything wrong.

 

[mxett]

Sure. It was all just a ghastly accident. Nobody did anything wrong.

plenty was wrong, but it wasnt planned doping. That much is obvious

 

[Beer n Skittles]

plenty was wrong, but it wasnt planned doping. That much is obvious

Well it was planned.
And it was doping.

Given those two facts, and I know this is a stretch, but perhaps you could follow the logical conclusion as to whether it was planned doping?

 

[Laphroaig]

plenty was wrong, but it wasnt planned doping. That much is obvious

How **** ing ridiculous. Accidental doping.

 

[Falcon27]

Doesn't all insurance lead back to one or two massive insurers such as Lloyds?

No

 

[Satan]

plenty was wrong, but it wasnt planned doping. That much is obvious

http://www.sportslawyer.com.au/mark-thompson-tried-to-stop-essendons-dangerous-injection-program/


But at meetings in May and June, he told sports scientist Stephen Dank to stop the injections program.

And on occasions when prohibited substances were found at the club, Thompson told staffers to get them out of Windy Hill.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

You forgot the back door clauses. The mysterious trade loopholes.

Don't know what Little and Evans had on AFL House, but it must have been **** ing good shit.

How about EFC gets top up players but nobody else does? Really good shit.

What loopholes?

So we could trade back in. Big deal. We still had to actually lose good players to get picks. We still had an overall net loss of 2 first and second round draft picks. That ain't a loophole. That'd fact.

 

[Tiger2709]

No

I think you will find all insurance companies reinsure themselves through a small few of the larger companies in this field, who have turn overs large enough to not require insuring themselves, Lloyds and SwissRE are two examples, but thanks for your educated, well thought out reply.

 

[mxett]

How **** ing ridiculous. Accidental doping.

agree, it was certainly ridiculous

 

[Doss]

But aren't Essendon beating their chests about player retention?

Just seems a bit weird to be bragging about player retention when 70% of the players in question are no longer at the club.

I'm not sure if you're being deliberately disingenuous or not, but the bragging about player retention has never been about the 34 because natural attrition means that the '34' were never, in any circumstance, all still going to be at the club four years later. Let's have a look at some of them:

Ricky Dyson- someone I thought was actually a bit unlucky to be delisted when he was, but nonetheless, a fairly average footballer
Alwyn Davey- an okay player, nothing special once his hammies went in 2007 though. Lost his pace
David Hille- retired
Dustin Fletcher- retired and straight to the nursing home
Kyle Hardingham- not quite good enough for AFL level
Leroy Jetta- urgh
Luke Davis- late draft selection who probably wasn't quite up to it. Didn't play a game
Alex Browne- cruelled by injuries, but he was always going to battle to stay on the list with how little he played

Shall I keep going or not?

The player retention brag, for want of a better way to put it, was always about how many of the 12 current players they could convince to stay. Pretty simple.

 

[NoAFLinmycomp]

plenty was wrong, but it wasnt planned doping. That much is obvious

It was DOPING program PLANNED by one or more employees/contractors of the EFC, supported by and endorsed by others at the club.

Definately planned doping. It's the degree of illegallity of the planning that I think you are disputing?

 

[mxett]

It was DOPING program PLANNED by one or more employees/contractors of the EFC, supported by and endorsed by others at the club.

Definately planned doping. It's the degree of illegallity of the planning that I think you are disputing?

given even the players dont seem sure of what they received I cant see how this was a planned doping program. Surely if you are going to plan a doping program you'd know what you were doping with

 

[Demon in Hell]

They know Mxett, they know.

It's just that they won't tell.

 

[mxett]

They know Mxett, they know.

It's just that they won't tell.

so Hal is wasting all this money in court, potentially exposing his own cheating, over something he already knows