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Holding the ball up
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It is OK to do it, but we do it too much.
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this was starting to annoy me a few weeks ago so i started keeping track of how many times it works
the answer is very rarely
they hold it up then bomb it to a pack then its a turn over
the answer is very rarely
they hold it up then bomb it to a pack then its a turn over
Especially when we have multiple options screaming down the ground.
I reckon that was the earliest in a quarter we've done it today.
Last term with about 13 minutes left? What ****ing shit is that.
I hate it at the best of times, but it was beyond bullshit today. We kicked to contests even when players like Wells had broken into space.
Kangalicious
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To be fair (and I thought today's game was totally sh*tful) the ball holding today seemed to be less about time wasting, and more about letting players get back ahead of the ball. There was one point where Corey did it (I think early in the 4th) where he held the ball up and then gestured furiously for the guys to run ahead of the ball.
I think players holding the ball up is very quickly turning into a signal to the umpire to call play on. Pretty much every time a player held the ball the umpire called play on within about a second resulting the player just kicking the ball long to a contest.
So I think holding the ball up while we have a free kick is a waste of time.
So I think holding the ball up while we have a free kick is a waste of time.
It's not about holding the ball up or slowing it down. It's about getting the ball to a neutral position and stoppage down the line. Remarkably defensive footy that just will not hurt good sides in finals.
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Yeah, it just means we are going to kick to a contest.
It has a place, but we need to play on more -which strangely we seem to do against the top teams.....and it works.
It has a place, but we need to play on more -which strangely we seem to do against the top teams.....and it works.
I knew what was going to happen today, so I didn't even get angry at the effort. The only time I really got pissed off was when we refused, like simply refused, to switch the football in the back half. At one point, two good kicks in a row would have seen the ball carried to our HFF. We just wouldn't do it. Really annoyed me.
Fair enough, not sure why you would need a signal for that though.
TheOneAndOnlyKJ
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+1.
How is that controlling the tempo???
3 minutes into the last quarter and we start stuffing around with the ball trying to ice the clock.
Turnover
Goal
And so the cycle continues...
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We need a different signal, something like putting the ball on the ground and pretending to do up shoelaces.
TheOneAndOnlyKJ
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Also, this holding-the-ball-up fascination just allows the opposition to push numbers back. We do this agaisnt the Hawks, Sydney or St Kilda and we get smashed. Simple as that
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l totally agree. it now appears to be a signal to the umpires to call play on when its spotted. l hate it sooo much.
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It's a real worry when guys like Urquhart do it. You've gotta wonder what sort of footy is being taught to our younger players.
yeah, its annoying, they should stop it
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I thought it was a signal to the opposition that we are going to turn it over for them to kick an easy goal.
Furla81
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sometimes its like they do it just to show everyone they've marked it or something.
i dont mind it at the end of a quarter to 'ice' the clock if u will,but when we turn it over like we did n they nearly scored
it just seems like a big waste of time
i dont mind it at the end of a quarter to 'ice' the clock if u will,but when we turn it over like we did n they nearly scored
it just seems like a big waste of time
ARRRGGHHH!!!!!
HATE IT HATE IT !!!!
Tempo ? Maintain possession ? Players behind the ball ?
Explain to me then why Thomas held the ball aloft just outside the 50 in the last few seconds of the 3rd quarter!!!!
It's a team rule gone nuts it doesn't help us it hinders !!
Negative play
Hate it Hate it
What it says to me to me is the coaching staff do not beleive we have the cattle to run out the game and defeat a side !!!
It stifles the run and inevitably lets sides back into the game .
Whilst this tactic is in operation we cannot complain about poor %!!
And our percentage is atrocious .
If anyone watched Carlton and the dogs .
A game that see sawed, not at anypoint, did either side hold it aloft or attempt tempo .
Trust me i was very sensitive to the issue at this point . The game was played out to the final second and it showed !!!!
Please spare us !!
HATE IT HATE IT !!!!
Tempo ? Maintain possession ? Players behind the ball ?
Explain to me then why Thomas held the ball aloft just outside the 50 in the last few seconds of the 3rd quarter!!!!
It's a team rule gone nuts it doesn't help us it hinders !!
Negative play
Hate it Hate it
What it says to me to me is the coaching staff do not beleive we have the cattle to run out the game and defeat a side !!!
It stifles the run and inevitably lets sides back into the game .
Whilst this tactic is in operation we cannot complain about poor %!!
And our percentage is atrocious .
If anyone watched Carlton and the dogs .
A game that see sawed, not at anypoint, did either side hold it aloft or attempt tempo .
Trust me i was very sensitive to the issue at this point . The game was played out to the final second and it showed !!!!
Please spare us !!
Exactly, its become a cop out. Players have decided they can just hold the ball in the air and kick it to no one in particular and get away with it because they are following team rules. I would love to see the statistics of effective kicks after holding the ball in the air - I reckon it would be about 10%. Get rid of it Dean, I reckon the team rule should be no holding the f______ ball in the air. The players take a grab and then walk back with their backs to the play coz they know they are just going to hold the ball in the air and everything will be hunky dory, but its not, we are shooting ourselves in the foot!
/Rant over
Boo, incorrect.
I reckon he's been one of the least offenders in this case. The main offenders are Pratty, Rawlings and CJ and probably others that are escaping me now
you do wonder the value of it when you are essentially signalling that you are going long down the boundary line then actually give the opposition time to get to the contest by then delayingt he kick.
I think it was Spud that held the ball aloft today that slowed down the tempo, then he waited for a shorter lead before passing it off. I don't mind that kind of tactic, but the long ball down the line seems to almost always result in a throw in or turnover, thus losing possession.
I think it was Spud that held the ball aloft today that slowed down the tempo, then he waited for a shorter lead before passing it off. I don't mind that kind of tactic, but the long ball down the line seems to almost always result in a throw in or turnover, thus losing possession.
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I'm with you, jozeph. I reckon they should just call out "Tippy toe".
(Or sing Lemon Tree. Either would work.)
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