How do we copy the Geelong and Swans models of not bottoming out?

[steviewonder36]

Neither team has had to hit rock bottom when they rebuilt.

Both teams seem to challenge every few years.

 

[danielnajdek]

Neither team has had to hit rock bottom when they rebuilt.

Both teams seem to challenge every few years.

Sydney is obvious to everyone. Academies.

Geelong I agree with.

 

[Rooosterboy]

Don't trade our first round picks away, get given Academy kids for nothing and, have the pick of kids who come from our region and "want to come home to mummy"

 

[manicpie]

But we haven't bottomed out and probably won't

 

[No SPIN]

How can Geel bottom out when their home ground advantage gives them and 86% win rate and 9 guaranteed wins a year?
And Swans - it’s academies as others have said.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

The Geelong method is easy.

Just got to go out and sign the best mid and forward in the comp because they love the "lifestyle" while still somehow having zero salary cap issues.

 

[VinnieB]

Neither team has had to hit rock bottom when they rebuilt.

Both teams seem to challenge every few years.

Geelong recruiters have an excellent eye for talent when it comes to drafting. Holmes is a case in point.

They have also drafted more mature players like Stewart and Blivcas who have been great players.

They target players and get them.

And finally they negotiate hard.

 

[VinnieB]

Fortunately our father/sons are stars.

 

[Chameleon75]

We merge with north, the seniors play as the magpies, the magoos as the kangaroos. Then after an appropriate period of time, say 3 months, members vote to return to the magpies, but we wear norths jumper once a year for heritage round in the vfl only, because we’re a charitable bunch.

 

[ottoman]

We merge with north, the seniors play as the magpies, the magoos as the kangaroos. Then after an appropriate period of time, say 3 months, members vote to return to the magpies, but we wear norths jumper once a year for heritage round in the vfl only, because we’re a charitable bunch.

3 months !!!!!
Surely that's a typo.
3 games or 3 weeks. Which ever is the lesser.
Oh and we wear a hybrid of the Nth and Collingwood jumper, it must contain black and white but we allow a little bit of blue on the socks once every leap year. Because we're a charitable bunch.

 

[Chameleon75]

3 months !!!!!
Surely that's a typo.
3 games or 3 weeks. Which ever is the lesser.
Oh and we wear a hybrid of the Nth and Collingwood jumper, it must contain black and white but we allow a little bit of blue on the socks once every leap year. Because we're a charitable bunch.

you’re correct, I was being too generous

 

[jmac70]

Neither team has had to hit rock bottom when they rebuilt.

Both teams seem to challenge every few years.

On average, Collingwood have reached the preliminary final stage every two years for the past two decades.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Neither team has had to hit rock bottom when they rebuilt.

Both teams seem to challenge every few years.

They haven’t won many flags with this method…. It’s not proven to be any better or worse than any other method. The three Geelong won in 2007-11 were from landing early draft picks and father sons. Since then they have won just one flag, albeit they have jumped out of the blocks this year.

Similarly the Swans have only won two flags in recent years, same as Collingwood.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Fortunately our father/sons are stars.

Geelong 2007-11 says the same. Take those out of the equation and 2022 is their only premiership since the 60s

 

[Vicky Park]

On average, Collingwood have reached the preliminary final stage every two years for the past two decades.

But we’re still terrible at list building and development - right?

I’m not sure that we’ll bottom out. Right now, I’d say it’s perhaps not looking great. But in three weeks, I might say something different.

One thing I can say with absolute confidence is that the club is in good hands, perhaps the best ‘hands’ we’ve been in for decades. With these people in charge, we may be able to ‘innovate’ our way out of bottoming out. Watch this space I guess.

And BTW, we’re not finished yet in 2024. I have a sense of us circling the pack…

 

[Captivating]

Fortunately our father/sons are stars.

Will Kelly, Callum Brown and Tyler Brown?

 

[loki04]

Will Kelly, Callum Brown and Tyler Brown?

T.Cloke, H.Shaw, D.Moore, J.Daicos, N.Daicos.

R.Shaw eventually had a solid career at Sydney.

 

[Drought Break]

we don't really bottom out either, except the year that Bucks got moved on. Need to do better with our drafts but.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

T.Cloke, H.Shaw, D.Moore, J.Daicos, N.Daicos.

R.Shaw eventually had a solid career at Sydney.

J Cloke wasn’t terrible either.

 

[loki04]

Geelong kept majority of thier firsts.

They poached a prime Dangerfield, Thouhy, Cameron and brought in a still quality player in I.Smith and servicable Henderson.

They poached O.Henry off us for peanuts, made off with GC pick 7, and got a great deal on Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

.

 

[loki04]

J Cloke wasn’t terrible either.

Yup agreed missed him.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

we don't really bottom out either, except the year that Bucks got moved on. Need to do better with our drafts but.

And one year under Malthouse .

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Is this an antidote to the 'Majority of flag winning team has gone backwards' thread?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Is this an antidote to the 'Majority of flag winning team has gone backwards' thread?

Which is the second silliest thread title I have read all year…. First being of course the one about the Time Sniper

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Geelong kept majority of thier firsts.

They poached a prime Dangerfield, Thouhy, Cameron and brought in a still quality player in I.Smith and servicable Henderson.

They poached O.Henry off us for peanuts, made off with GC pick 7, and got a great deal on Tim Kelly.

In short, they don't get reamed, they take no shit. Nor do they swan off with their family on sabbaticals. They stand on their principles and accessible surf beaches, and get their man.