Analysis How many live picks will your club take to the 2021 draft?

[Miguel Sanchez]

Back due to popular demand (well, one person asked).

Senior list size I believe is a maximum of 38, minimum of 36. Unless you're Gold Coast in which case I've got no idea.

Adelaide
Starting list size: 36
Out: 5 (Kelly FA, Lynch, O'Connor, Stengle, Talia delisted)
In: 1 (Dawson trade)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 5 Cat A (Butts, Keays, Murray, Parnell, Strachan) + 2 Cat B (Borlace, Newchurch)
Live picks: 5 (4, 33, 74, 76, 87) - probably take four and a rookie

Brisbane
Starting list size: 37
Out: 3 (CEY, Hoyce, BSmith delisted)
In: 1 (Fort trade)
Current senior list: 35 players
Current rookies: 3 Cat A (Lane, Madden, Mathieson) + 2 Cat B (Michael, Uosis) + redrafting CEY
Live picks: 3 (14, 18, 41)

Carlton
Starting list size: 36
Out: 6 (Murphy retired, SPS traded, Casboult, Gibbons, O'Brien, Ramsay delisted)
In: 5 (Cerra, Hewett, Young trade/FA, Honey, Kennedy upgraded)
Current senior list: 35 players
Current rookies: 4 Cat A (Boyd, McDonald, Mirkov, Parks) + 1 Cat B (Owies) + Cottrell and O'Brien to be relisted
Live picks: 3 (25, 63, 78) - but will just take one
(Note: Jones apparently still on the list)

Collingwood
Starting list size: 36
Out: 6 (Greenwood, Mayne, Thomas retired, Lynch traded, Rantall, Sier delisted)
In: 2 (Lipinski, Krieuger trade)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 6 Cat A (Begg, Chugg, Ginnivan, Johnson, Keane, Noble) + 2 Cat B (Wilson, Faye)
Live picks: 6 (36, 38, 40, 46, 48, 58) - but can only use four picks

Essendon
Starting list size: 37
Out: 6 (Ambrose, Hooker, Mosquito retired, Cahill, Johnson, Zaharakis delisted)
In: 1 (Kelly FA)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 4 Cat A (Baldwin, Durham, Snelling, Waterman) + 2 Cat B (Hird, McBride)
Live picks: 6 (11, 51, 56, 83, 88, 91) - probably only take four

Fremantle
Starting list size: 36
Out: 7 (Hill retired, Cerra traded, Blakely, Conca, Crowden, Duman, Giro delisted)
In: 3 (Brodie, Clark traded, Hughes elevated)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 3 Cat A (Banfield, Schultz, Treacy) + 1 Cat B (Klem) + Blakely and Crowden to be redrafted
Live picks: 6 (6, 8, 19, 60, 68, 80) - but can only take five

Geelong
Starting list size: 38
Out: 7 (Jenkins retired, Clark, Fort, Kreuger traded, Constable, Jarvis, Taheny delisted)
In: 2 (Ceglar, Stengle trade/FA)
Current senior list: 33 players
Current rookies: 2 Cat A (Atkins, Close) + 1 Cat B (Tsapatolis)
Live picks: 5 (22, 30, 32, 34, 50)

Gold Coast
Starting list size: 38
Out: 4 (Brodie trade, Greenwood, Thompson, McLennan delisted)
In: 1 (Chol FA)
Current senior list: 35 players
Current rookies: 6 Cat A (Conroy, Moyle, Murtagh, Nicholls, Brock, Uwland) + 1 Cat B (Oea) + McLennan to be redrafted - not 100 per cent sure on these
Live picks: 3 (3, 86, 90) - Thompson to be redrafted with the last pick

GWS
Starting list size: 36
Out: 4 (Finlayson trade, Hutchesson, Shipley. Wehr delisted)
In: 1 (Brander DFA)
Current senior list: 33 players
Current rookies: 4 Cat A (Lloyd, Peatling, Sproule, Stein) + 2 Cat B (Brown, Shaw) + will redraft Wehr
Live picks: 5 (2, 13, 53, 54, 70) - but can only use 4

Hawthorn
Starting list size: 36
Out: 8 (Burgoyne, Patton, Scully retired, Ceglar, O'Brien trade/FA, Cousins, Hanrahan, Hartley delisted)
In: 2 (Lynch traded, Reeves promoted)
Current senior list: 30 players
Current rookies: 6 Cat A (Bramble, Callow, Jeka, Moore, Newcombe, Saunders) + 1 Cat B (O'Hara)
Live picks: 6 (5, 21, 24, 59, 64, 77)

Melbourne
Starting list size: 36
Out: 5 (Jetta, Jones retired, Hore, Lockhart, Vandenberg delisted)
In: 2 (Dunstan FA, Jordon promoted)
Current senior list: 33 players
Current rookies: 5 Cat A (Brown, Chandler, Daw, Smith, Turner)
Live picks: 4 (17, 37, 49, 57)

North Melbourne
Starting list size: 36
Out: 6 (Tarrant traded, Atley, Dumont, Garner, Polec, Tyson delisted)
In: 2 (CCJ traded, Greenwood DFA)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 3 Cat A (Edwards, Hayden, PWalker) + 1 Cat B (McGuinness)+ Polec to be redrafted
Live picks: 6 (1, 20, 42, 47, 71, 75) - not sure they use them all

Port Adelaide
Starting list size: 36
Out: 6 (Rockliff retired, Ladhams traded, Garner, Hartlett, Lienert, Mayes delisted)
In: 3 (Finlayson, Skinner traded/DFA, Frederick promoted)
Current senior list: 33 players
Current rookies: 3 Cat A (McEntee, Pasini, Schofield) + will redraft Mayes
Live picks: 5 (12, 62, 72, 73, 85) - unlikely to use them all

Richmond
Starting list size: 36
Out: 8 (Astbury, Houli retired, Chol, CCJ traded/FA, Cumberland, Garthwaite, Naish, Nyuon delisted)
In: 1 (Tarrant traded)
Current senior list: 29 players
Current rookies: 6 Cat A (Aarts, Mansell, Miller, Parker, Pickett, Stack) + 1 Cat B (Colina) + somehow re-rookieing Nyuon?
Live picks: 6 (7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79)

St Kilda
Starting list size: 36
Out: 6 (Carlisle, Frawley, McKernan, Roberton retired, Dunstan FA, Lonie delisted)
In: 2 (Campbell DFA, Wilkie promoted)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 4 Cat A (Heath, Joyce, Sharman, Wood)
Live picks: 6 (9, 55, 61, 65, 66, 81) - unlikely to use them all

Sydney
Starting list size: 36
Out: 5 (Dawson, Hewett traded/FA, Brand, Ling, Taylor delisted)
In: 1 (Ladhams traded)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 4 Cat A (Fox, McAndrew, McLean, Wicks) + 2 Cat B (O'Connor, Sheather) + redrafting Taylor
Live picks: 6 (16, 31, 39, 69, 84, 89) - will leave one for the RD (Taylor) and possibly a second

West Coast
Starting list size: 37
Out: 5 (Vardy retired, Ainsworth, Brander, Cameron, Johnson delisted)
In: 1 (SPS traded)
Current senior list: 33 players
Current rookies: 3 Cat A (Jones, Trew, West)
Live picks: 5 (10, 29, 35, 67, 82) - unlikely to use them all

Bulldogs
Starting list size: 36
Out: 5 (Jong, Lloyd, Wood retired, Lipinski, Young traded)
In: 1 (O'Brien FA)
Current senior list: 34 players
Current rookies: 5 Cat A (Gardner, McNeil, Scott, Smith, Sweet) + 1 Cat B (Khamis)
Live picks: 5 (23, 43, 44, 45, 52)

 

[Pure_Ownage]

You forgot lipinski and wood out for dogs.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You forgot lipinski and wood out for dogs.

Cheers, added now

 

[The Nostradamus]

Yeah GC have maxed their senior list and will need to move 3 guys to the rookie list prior to the draft

 

[Jeremias]

Just the one live ND pick for Carlton this year.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Just the one live ND pick for Carlton this year.

Which rookies are you promoting to the senior list besides Kennedy

 

[Jeremias]

Which rookies are you promoting to the senior list besides Kennedy

Honey

 

[GoTigers2015]

Richmond
Starting list size: 36
Out: 8 (Astbury, Houli retired, Chol, CCJ traded/FA, Cumberland, Garthwaite, Naish, Nyuon delisted)
In: 1 (Tarrant traded)
Current senior list: 29 players
Live picks: 9 (7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 83, 101, 119, 137) - unlikely to use them all

We have 6 Cat A rookies (Stack, Aarts, Pickett, Mansell, Parker and Miller) so only have 36 spots on the senior list. So will only have 7 live picks.

Because Richmond has committed to rerookieing Cumberland and Nyuon, effectively have 5 list spots. Two of the Cat A rookies will be elevated.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Looks like lions need to delist 1 more senior listed player to be able to take 3 picks also

 

[Jen2310]

Yeah GC have maxed their senior list and will need to move 3 guys to the rookie list prior to the draft

They only need 1 spot on the senior list for the live pick. The other two were pre-selected rookies, which count toward the selections and will go on the rookie list.

 

[The Nostradamus]

They only need 1 spot on the senior list for the live pick. The other two were pre-selected rookies, which count toward the selections and will go on the rookie list.

Well in that case GC need to move 1 senior listed player to the rookie list

bit of a shit rule tbh, anything for GC I guess

 

[Chaisa]

Looks like lions need to delist 1 more senior listed player to be able to take 3 picks also

That's an error from Draftguru I'm pretty sure - Madden should be a Cat A rookie while Michael is listed as on the main list despite being a Cat B rookie.

Same applies for Sheather (Sydney), Shaw (GWS) and Borlase + Newchurch (Adelaide)

 

[Simba Moyo]

Looks like lions need to delist 1 more senior listed player to be able to take 3 picks also

Birchall retired

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Birchall retired

Wasnt birchall on the rookie list though? So theyd need to demote a senior list player to rookie to free up an extra senior spot.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Wasnt birchall on the rookie list though? So theyd need to demote a senior list player to rookie to free up an extra senior spot.

Good call I do believe he was
But I think they have 35 on senior list so if they take 3 picks they get to the max 38

so can only have 4 cat a rookies (CEY will be one of them, madden And kalin lane also, not sure who their last cat a rookie is or if they left 1 spot vacant there)

edit: mathison I think is a rookie too so they’ve filled that up already

lions must really rate their list, minimal turnover

 

[ex afl players]

Didn't Gold Coast only have 37 last year on senior list ? Carlton currently have 35 senior listed not 36 .Great thread well done

 

[Stamos]

Carlton
Starting list size: 36
Out: 5 (Murphy retired, Casboult, Gibbons, O'Brien, Ramsay delisted)
In: 5 (Cerra, Hewett, Young trade/FA, Honey, Kennedy upgraded)
Current senior list: 36 players
Live picks: 2 (25, 64)

Petrevski-Seton was traded out.
With the announced Rookie Upgrades (Kennedy, Honey) we currently have 35 on the senior list. Will only use 1 pick (currently #25) in the draft, and then re-draft O'Brien and Cottrell in the Rookie Draft.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Oops, not sure how I missed SPS.

I’ll have a go at adding the rookie list situation for all clubs tonight, for some of them the number of players locked into the rookie list will mean they’ll have less senior list spots than I’ve put in the OP.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Rookie lists have been added to the OP, some of it's probably wrong. Just let me know.

 

[Lore]

Essendon
Starting list size: 37
Out: 6 (Ambrose, Hooker, Mosquito retired, Cahill, Johnson, Zaharakis delisted)
In: 1 (Kelly FA)
Current senior list: 32 players
Current rookies: 5 Cat A (Baldwin, Durham, McBride, Snelling, Waterman) + 1 Cat B (Hird)
Live picks: 5 (11, 51, 56, 87, 105) - probably only take four

Snelling likely to be upgraded (not yet announced). McBride seems to be a Category B rookie - must’ve transferred lists when McQuillan went home to Ireland.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawthorn
Starting list size: 36
Out: 8 (Burgoyne, Patton, Scully retired, Ceglar, O'Brien trade/FA, Cousins, Hanrahan, Hartley delisted)
In: 2 (Lynch traded, Reeves promoted)
Current senior list: 30 players
Current rookies: 6 Cat A (Bramble, Callow, Jeka, Moore, Newcombe, Saunders) + 1 Cat B (O'Hara)
Live picks: 6 (5, 21, 24, 59, 65, 81, 99)

Good job. It does amaze me that the AFL don’t have a place where you can readily find this info.
We’ve got guys on our board who track it and keep others up to date, but how good would an official site be with this verified info?

I think we take at least 4 picks in the draft. Maybe upgrade a rookie late or draft a fifth from Box Hill. Won’t surprise if we leave a spot open.

 

[Mofra]

Bulldogs: With Sweet and R Smith both getting two year deals, they will move off the Cat A rookie list and to the main list
Cavarra and Hayes won't be offered new deals and come off the main list.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Bulldogs: With Sweet and R Smith both getting two year deals, they will move off the Cat A rookie list and to the main list
Cavarra and Hayes won't be offered new deals and come off the main list.

Cavarra and Hayes were both demoted to the rookie list last year.

Rookie elevations I’ve taken from https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11...okies-set-to-be-upgraded-to-the-primary-list/

 

[ex afl players]

Collingwood are committed to bassirou Faye
Fremantle are committed to Ultan Klem
Port are rookie listing Sam Mayes

32

Sam Mayes

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

14.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

20.0

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

7.2

5star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

Brisbane are rookie listing Cam Ellis yolman
Gold coasts Malcolm Rosas is in rookie list I think

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Collingwood are committed to bassirou Faye
Fremantle are committed to Ultan Klem
Port are rookie listing Sam Mayes
Brisbane are rookie listing Cam Ellis yolman
Gold coasts Malcolm Rosas is in rookie list I think

Rosas was quietly elevated last year, from memory I needed to get Patrick Keane to confirm it on Twitter but he (Rosas, not Keene) was then listed on the senior list when the Record came out this year.

Thanks for the others, I’ll add them to the OP.